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Game #1 - Cleveland Cavaliers @ Boston Celtics - Game Night Open Thread

Cleveland Cavaliers at Boston Celtics, Oct 28, 2008 7:00 PM CDT


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October 28th, 2008
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Probable starters:
Mo Williams PG Rajon Rondo
Delonte West SG Ray Allen
LeBron James SF Paul Pierce
Ben Wallace PF Kevin Garnett
Zydrunas Ilgauskas C Kendrick Perkins


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The Cavaliers begin their quest for glory in the same spot they saw their dreams dashed in the 2008 Playoffs, TD BankNorth Garden in Boston, MA. The Cavaliers gave the Celtics everything they could handle and then some on their way to a NBA Title, and both teams figure to be right back there this season.

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Delonte shows some early agression...

hits a couple free throws, too…Nice start.

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:08 PM CDT reply actions  

4-4

Garnett with an easy dunk and these two teams seem to have picked up where they left off…

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I like what I am seeing...

from West. He is aggressive and hitting the open jumpshot…

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Cavs on an 8-0 run despite some sloppy play....

Getting it done on D early, however….

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Mo Williams...

Already showing he can play some D, drawing the charge on Rondo.

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Williams with 5 early....

He brings a completely different dimension to the Cavaliers.

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Z active as well...

Cavs came out ready to play….

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Early on...

The Cavs are 5/6 from the line….

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Complete Role Reversal...

James 1/5 early on, the rest of the Cavs are 4/6

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Paul Pierce is recognizing the Celtics came out slow...

and is starting to take over a bit…..

James and Pierce staged a historic duel in Game 7 and may be on their way to the same thing here tonight.

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey, just thought I'd cehck in

I’m an ambassador for Blazer’s Edge. It’s just something fun we’re doing over there so us readers can scour the league instead of having Dave, the main writer, overwork himself.

I’ve been watching the Cavs since Lebron was drafted so I’m happy that I now have an official excuse to keep up with the team.

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Welcome!

I am psyched for the season to start!!!

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cavs going small....

James playing the 4, only Z has any size.

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks...

Slow and steady wins the race. I’m confident I’ll get it where it needs to be…..

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I like your gameday stuff so far

over at Blazer’sedge it gets to be such a clusterf*** of people that it’s impossible to keep up with the gameday threads

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know the feeling....

I have a feeling I’ll look forward to the ‘quiet’ once it gets rolling over here…

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

9/10 form the line early on

That might be the best thing I have seen so far…

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:27 PM CDT reply actions  

What do you think of Hickson so far?

I haven’t had a chance to see him at all.

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 7:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Just from a quick look up and down the roster

It seems like any boost from him would help a lot on the aging frontline

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's raw....

but he can play in this League. Once he gets it, he’ll be really good. I expect him to see 5-10 minutes per game, on average…

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why are we getting analysis on the offensive side from the team with 13 points?

by Fios on Oct 28, 2008 7:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Celtics getting more active...

Leon Powe is getting all the boards now….

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Another sloppy turnover....

but the Celtics give it right back….

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Pierce hits the bucket at the buzzer....

Entertaining 1st Quarter comes to an end….28-22 Cavs

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:35 PM CDT reply actions  

It's been fun watching Mo Williams give them a boost

Whether it’s his boost or the rest of the new guys from last year continuing to gel, the offense looks a lot smoother.

They’re getting much better shots than what i remember from last year

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

He adds a completely new dimension to the team...

You can already see LeBron doesn’t feel the need to dribble the ball around the floor….

Now we need to see if old habits die hard….

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

From Brian Windhorst's Live Blog
Make no mistake, the Cavs are extremely fired up for this game. LeBron was very animated before the game with a lot of energy both in the locker room and on the floor. This is not an ironclad proclaimation, but when I have seen him like this before games he usually comes out and plays with abandon. I assume he gave a fiery pregame speech as well.

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Cavs with 7 turnovers already....

Boston with 5 of their own…

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Lorenzen Wright....

so much for him being roster fodder….He gets on the floor early and gets a quick 2.

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Veteran Savy

can’t teach that… or I guess you can, it just takes a long time

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even with the self proclaimed

“improved offensive game”, AV cannot be shooting 17 foot jumpers….

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Boobie Gibson

with a quick 5 points. Lorenzen Wright playing with some energy and the 2nd unit getting extended minutes. More importantly, the minutes are productive with LBJ on the bench

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Spreading the wealth....

8 different Cavaliers have scored so far, only 16 minutes into the game.

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:48 PM CDT reply actions  

I really do like the depth you have this year

Especially in the backcourt. It’ll be nice to have some guys that can take the pressure off and maybe when a game when LBJ is off

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

BlazersEdger here

Rooting for the Cavs while waiting (not so patiently) for our game to start.

How do you guys feel about opening on the road against the best team in your conferene? I kind of like it for the Blazers- you aren’t expected to get a W and pulling the upset could be a great kick start to the season.

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by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2008 7:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I think it is great...

LeBron was non-existent in last year’s season opener, and I think matching up against Pierce and the Celts is the ultimate motivation for him…

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

What are your expectations for the Cavs this year? Can they be the 2 seed? Can they win the East?

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by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

They're looking pretty good so far

I think the Cavs jump the celtics this year with either the added depth or a new player they parlay the depth into.

but what do I know, I’m a Blazer’s Edger too

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

An interesting thing to follow this year

for Boston: KG, Ray and Pierce were unbelievably motivated last year to get their first title. Will the possibility of a 2nd title be as great a motivator? I say no.

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by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2008 7:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Pierce yeah, KG yeah, Ray no

It’s still Pierce’s team. I think he wants to leave his legacy with a couple championships, not just leading mediocre teams and throwing in an abberation title.

Garnet is crazy. I will never doubt his motivation.

Ray is clearly on the downside. He got his ring and I’d imagine he’d just as soon bow out

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Am I going to be chastised for refusing to use the subject line? I’m far too lazy for that. One half of one game but I am pleased with the amount of ball movement thus far.

by Fios on Oct 28, 2008 7:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Not at all...

many times that is all I use…..

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

First possesion that they've had to jack up a bad shot

Not bad compared to last year. especially against the celtics.

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 8:00 PM CDT reply actions  

The sloppiness aside (and that’s to be expected game 1) I am really excited to see what this team can do when it gels

by Fios on Oct 28, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rondo goes down hard....

Ben Wallace doing what he is supposed to do, making it difficult to get to the basket….

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 8:02 PM CDT reply actions  

So what do you think?

Are the Cavs gonna stick with the depth or make another move?

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 8:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I think they'll make a move...

unless they are having such a great season that they can’t shake it up….

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know...

He has his faults/shortcomings…… BUT

He knows what it takes to win in the playoffs, and mosr importantly, he got the buy in from LBJ and the players that it is defense that gets it done in April and May.

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m willing to give Brown some benefit of the doubt since he’s never really had a decent PG but I found a lot to dislike about him the past 2 seasons

by Fios on Oct 28, 2008 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

What specifically?

"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex

by timbo on Oct 28, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had NBA League Pass last season, probably watched about 60 Cavs games. The offense in general was pathetic and I put a lot of that on Brown … he just put up with way too many stretches of completely stagnant offense, awful decisions, horrific shot clock management, etc. He was just far too passive during too many stretches for my liking.

by Fios on Oct 28, 2008 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree, I’m certainly not under the illusion he was wasting a collection of elite offensive players but I feel completely justified in saying he didn’t do enough coaching. They were particularly bad on scripted plays out of time-outs, to me that’s entirely on the coach. But, as I learned last year, if Doc can win a ring as a coach, almost anyone can.

by Fios on Oct 28, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good assesment

I never liked the guy. I always thought he was too happy with log jamming the offense and letting Lebron take over.

Last year you could tell exactly when Lebron was gonna drive cause the rest of the offense would just clear out by design.

That’ll work from time to time, but championship basketball takes more than one superstar.

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

It’d be great for them to swap a couple backcourt guys for some frontline scoring

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 8:07 PM CDT reply actions  

............................. or three.

"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex

by timbo on Oct 28, 2008 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rondo reminds me of someone playing at a local gym

that doesnt practice but get’s by on pure athleticism

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 8:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Rondo is Faaaaaaaasssssst

He is blowing by Mo Williams….

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 8:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Big possession here.

"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex

by timbo on Oct 28, 2008 8:11 PM CDT reply actions  

50-43 good guys at half.

"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex

by timbo on Oct 28, 2008 8:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Sager doesn't look too insane this evening...

"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex

by timbo on Oct 28, 2008 8:12 PM CDT reply actions  

kinda dissapointing

The first time i hear his name I started paying close attentino to see what he’d break out for the season opener

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta have SOMEWHERE to go with that wardrobe...

"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex

by timbo on Oct 28, 2008 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Point taken

If his first impression was too good then it’d be a letdown everytime the public saw him after that

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cavaliers Stats - Leaders

Scoring – LeBron James – 10 Pts
Rebounds – Zydrunas Ilgauskas – 4 reb
Assists – Lebron James – 4 ast

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 8:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Chuck has some smart things to say sometimes

but I don’t think he’s the best predictor of that type of thing.

He was dead on about the Blazers last year— staying firm with his “they take too many jumpers” critique even in the middle of “The Streak™”

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by jksnake99 on Oct 28, 2008 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was also one of the first to jump on our bandwagon

I think he jumped a little too hard at first but he saved himself by being the first of the national media to curtail the expectations with the jumper comment

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the help

We couldn’t have done it without your classic follow up puns

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

A few thoughts from the first half . . .

1 – Mo Williams looked really good. I’m excited to have him here.
2 – Best depth the Cavs have had in the LeBron era. They played an entire second team for about 6 min in the second quarters, and they played well. This will really help us throughout the year.
3 – LeBron is awesome. I like seeing him play the 4. Browns said they have plays built in to the offense with him there during the game (unlike past years where he just played there out of necessity).

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 28, 2008 8:26 PM CDT reply actions  

You pretty much summed it up...

Cavs played well overall….Now lets see if they have cured the 3rd quarter lulls that have killed them in the past…

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Celts never got closer than 4 did they?

"It's not a joke -- it's not a game." — B-Rex

by timbo on Oct 28, 2008 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does Reggie Miller own stock in Paul Pierce? I like Pierce but he’s NOT on the same level as Kobe

by Fios on Oct 28, 2008 8:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Funny

All the preseason predictions were prasing the Cavs rebounding ability

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like how Mike Brown's best coaching decision has come from watching Coach K get a chance to work with LBJ

His best move so far has been getting James comfortable at the 4. Something he never really did till he watched James in the olympics.

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 8:54 PM CDT reply actions  

I’m tired of saying that second part

by Fios on Oct 28, 2008 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just remember, he's still a valuable trade asset.

Then you’ll feel at least a little better about watching him fail on the floor.

Did you see that he was rated the worst defender in the league on an ESPN the mag poll?

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I honestly think that’s overstated, largely thanks to Bill Simmons … I’m not saying he’s good but he moves laterally pretty well and he sure as hell didn’t have a problem with Ray Allen last year. But, yes, I do look forward to seeing what the Cavs get in return for him.

by Fios on Oct 28, 2008 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

James with 4 fouls….Could play a role down the stretch…

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 8:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Some all-too familiar trends...

Cavs scoring by quarter dropping — 28-22-13
Slow 3rd quarter turn a decent lead into a deficit heading into the 4th….

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Yet another issue I have with Mike Brown

by Fios on Oct 28, 2008 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you are going to foul someone....

Make sure he doesn’t score! Tony Allen, two 3 point play opportunities

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 9:13 PM CDT reply actions  

wow, wow, wow

that pretty much sums that up

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 9:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Cavs have gone completely cold from the field...

Gibson, Williams both miss open shots…

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I can’t believe that the announcers are complaining about the Celtics not getting call, but I suppose I should expect no less.

by woodsmeister on Oct 28, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Reggie Miller is an unabashed Celtics fan

by Fios on Oct 28, 2008 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey – a foul on Boston when a Cav drives the hoop! I’ve been watching most of the second half and I think that’s the first one they’ve called.

by woodsmeister on Oct 28, 2008 9:20 PM CDT reply actions  

LeBron has STILL not fixed his issuse from the line....

Starting to believe that will be the chink in his armor…

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 9:22 PM CDT reply actions  

What does it say about the Cavs that our best free throw shooter is our starting center?

by woodsmeister on Oct 28, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

That Z has soft hands???

Seriously, with Mo that should change this year…

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never know

It’s occasionally effective though, so I usually let it slide

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, good luck with the game, friends. We’re busily pumping stats over at Blazers’ Edge (pregame thread sitting at 600+, should top the 3000 mark by the end of the game).

Come join us after you beat those Celtic schmucks…

www.blazersedge.com

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by timbo on Oct 28, 2008 9:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks Timbo...

Good Luck tonight!

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

That miss by LeBron....

reminds me of the one he missed in Game 7. A Layup chance, right at the basket, and LeBron can’t hit it…

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

It'd be nice to be confident enough in the supporting players to be able to switch it up and pass that off more often.

Although he’ll be roasted for that too. But if Mo Williams can take a couple of those shots, the d won’t be able to key all 5 guys on LeBron in these situations

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cavs will have the last chance....

Look for the Cavs to get the quick two and foul

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 9:43 PM CDT reply actions  

James 2/6 from the line in the 4th quarter

Until he proves he can step up and hit them, teams are going to put him there at crunch time…

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2008 9:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I’d move him back from the line, he seems to hit the back of the rim so often

by Fios on Oct 28, 2008 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

ugh, I just don’t want to watch another season of terrible offense

by Fios on Oct 28, 2008 9:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't forget it was the celtics

and it’ll take time for Mo tell gel into the offense

by KobeStoppa on Oct 28, 2008 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

BEAT LA

BEAT LA
BEAT LA

It was fun watching the game with your insights and stats. I look forward to getting to know the team better this year.

Feel free to join us at Blazer’s Edge if your not busy doing a recap

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