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Game #2 - Cleveland Cavaliers at Toronto Raptors Game Night Thread

Cleveland Cavaliers at Toronto Raptors, Oct 28, 2009 6:00 PM CDT


Toronto Raptors' Chris Bosh, right, and Hedo Turkoglu laugh as they pose for a photo during the team's NBA basketball media day in Toronto on Monday, Sept. 28, 2009. (AP Photo/The Canadian Press, Frank Gunn)

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about 1 month ago: Toronto Raptors' Chris Bosh, right, and Hedo Turkoglu laugh as they pose for a photo during the team's NBA basketball media day in Toronto on Monday, Sept. 28, 2009. (AP Photo/The Canadian Press, Frank Gunn)

2009/2010 NBA Regular Season
VS
0-00-1
October 28th, 2009
Air Canada Centre
7:00 PM
Radio - WTAM 1100 / TV - FOX
Probable starters:
Jose Calderon PG Mo Williams
Demar DeRozan SG Anthony Parker
Hedo Turkoglu SF LeBron James
Chris Bosh PF Anderson Varejao
Andrea Bargnani C Shaquille O'Neal

The best thing about the NBA?  If you don't feel good about the way you play, no fear, there will be another game before you know it!  The Cavaliers get back on the court less than 24-hours after losing to the Celtics - facing the Toronto Raptors in their Home Opener.  While the Raptors have no real answer for Shaq or Z on their roster, they will present the Cavs with some nightmares of their own trying to cover Chris Bosh or Hedo.  Either way it should be a good game!

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  • The Cavaliers will venture on the road for the first time this season tonight against the Toronto Raptors. The team holds a five-gameoverall winning streak against Toronto, including a three-game series sweep last season and the last two games played at theAir Canada Centre.
  • The Toronto Raptors have a losing record against just four Eastern Conference teams since the 2005-06 campaign, but the Cavaliershave given them the most difficulty of all Eastern Conference teams, winning 12 of 14 games over the last four seasons.

Eastern Conference Teams Best Record vs. Toronto - since 2005-06 (STATS, Inc.)

Cleveland Cavaliers 12-2 .857
Detroit Pistons       11-3    .786
Boston Celtics       11-5     .688

Chicago Bulls           8-7     .533
New Jersey Nets      8-8        .500
Washington Wizards     7-7    .500

 

  • LeBron James has averaged 29.8 points per game at Toronto throughout his career (10 games), the most of any player all-time(minimum of two games). James scored a career and franchise-record 56 points at Toronto on March 20, 2005. Shaquille O'Nealhas also had a lot of success at the Air Canada Centre, ranking 5th on this list in averaging 25.4 points over 13 games. DwyaneWade ranks 2nd at 28.6 ppg, Allen Iverson third at 28.4 ppg and Kobe Bryant fourth at 27.6 ppg. ( (STATS, Inc.)
  • Last season, the Cavaliers led the league in winning the second game of back-to-backs at 16-3 (.842). The team also led theleague in losing back-to-back games only once all season.
  • Tuesday's season and home opener versus Boston was the 600th Cleveland Cavaliers game (374-226, .623) at Quicken LoansArena in its 16-year history. Despite the loss, the Cavaliers have won 39 of their last 42 regular season home games.
  • LeBron James (24 years, 301 days old) became the youngest player to reach 13,000 career points, passing Kobe Bryant (26 years,132 days old). He notched his 13,000th point after hitting a three-pointer at the 4:47 mark of the first quarter.
  • James finished with a game-high 38 points on 12-22 (.545) shooting, including 4-9 (.444) on three-pointers and 10-13 (.769) from thefree throw line, and team-highs of eight assists and four blocks in 45 minutes. James' 38 points on Tuesday set a Cavaliers recordfor points in a season-opener, previously held by Ron Harper's 36 points at Chicago in 1989. James's output was the highestagainst Boston in the Celtics' first game of a season since George Gervin scored 39 points for the Spurs win in 1977. (Elias)
  • Shaquille O'Neal recorded a double-double in his first game as a Cavalier after tallying 10 points on 5-11 (.455) shooting, 10rebounds and one block in 29 minutes.
  • Anthony Parker also played his first contest as a Cavalier and finished with 10 points, four assists, three rebounds and two blocks in 40 minutes.
  • Against Boston, Mo Williams scored in double figures with 12 points and added three assists in 35 minutes. 

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Let’s hope Hedo doesn’t shoot like he did in the ECFs.

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 6:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else on Direct TV? They don’t seem to be playing the game in HD, and thus the standard definition looks like garbage on a 57 inch television…

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 6:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Stop with the turnovers……….

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 6:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed. starting the season 0-2 is not something we need.

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m sure Andy has been working on his offense, but enough – He should be the 5th option on every trip….

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2009 6:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice. LOL!

by Ilamuku on Oct 28, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, this is sucking.

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 6:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just wanted to wish the Cavs luck

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Oct 28, 2009 6:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Give it to Shaq! NIce.

by Ilamuku on Oct 28, 2009 6:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Get it going Mo.

by Ilamuku on Oct 28, 2009 6:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it’s not the SD, just the way we’re playing that looks like garbage.

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 6:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hahahahaha, WOW

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 6:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

did lebron make a big block? my stream froze.

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A Raptor missed a EASY break away dunk!

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

got it down to 3.

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 6:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

they’re playing well now!

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I’d still love to add Bosh in 2010!

If it’s doable.

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 6:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

if it’ll keep lebron here, they’ll make it doable.

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

except for the salary cap

it is doable, we signed all these fringe players this year, because we are already over the salary cap for next year, so unless we can trade 1/2 the players away, this will be LBJ’s team next year

by a hay on Oct 28, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there's a bright side..

…they don’t have a big lead in the 2nd quarter to give up ;)

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 6:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Austin Carr calls Shaq ‘Optimus Prime’ How About ‘Shaqtimus Prime’?

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2009 6:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

When did Mo Williams forget how to score?

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2009 6:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what is this nonsense?!?!?!?!

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 7:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m going to go ahead and say this:

Cavaliers’ Game 2 of 82 > World Series

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 7:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

who’s winning?

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cavs down 12….

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no i mean the world series

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, I have no idea. I honestly don’t care the least bit about the world series.

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand that this is going to take time, but the Cavaliers look like they wasted 8 preseason games – Toronto has 9 new players as well and they don’t seem to be struggling at all…

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2009 7:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. We lackluster on both sides of the ball right now. But the defense is just not the same without Delonte. The sooner we can get him back out there, the absolutely better.

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s what bothers me. Effort, lack of energy – sure, the second half of a back-to-back and the Raptors are playing their opener, but these guys are all vets and most of them barely broke a sweat in the pre-season

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

F tha Sword

it gets late early in cleveland! go cavs!

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by Czheck on Oct 28, 2009 7:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This is all on Mike Brown – to say now he is still trying to figure it out – unacceptable. The Cavs are going to win a lot of games but its painful to see them out-worked, out-hustled and outplayed.

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2009 7:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone blaming the this on the Shaq trade is ignorant, IMO.

The biggest issue is not having Delonte on the floor.

Although, I wouldn’t be totally opposed to trying to play Shaq off the bench, in future games, if there’s potential for it to help the team.

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 7:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think anyone is…Cavs were thin in the backcourt WITH Delonte. Without him, well, disaster.

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My brother actually had just called me claiming, “I told you shouldn’t have traded for Shaq.” I responded by asking for what evidence he had for having the idea that Shaq is hurting the team. He then said, “Well we’re getting destroyed by Toronto in the first half.”

Provided he doesn’t know much about basketball, and probably isn’t the best example of the average Cavs fan, I just figured I’d address any confused fan that might share that idea.

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Added note, he is the very very pessimistic kind of Cleveland fan, afraid to be disappointed never sets his standards high. He’d probably find company at Cleveland.com

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

anyone who think Delonte will solve the problem

is either clutching at straws or needs to have their head examines

This is a LBJ + 4 stiffs offense, and West is and has always been one of the stiffs

by a hay on Oct 28, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Learn to read.

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

keeep believing

“The biggest issue is not having Delonte on the floor”

I am still laughing at that one

He was not jettison by 2 team because he is an all star, actually those teams did not have a PG when they gave him away

by a hay on Oct 28, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you watched the Cavs play last year with him, and without him, you would realize that not having him is a big deal.

by Chief Wahoo on Oct 28, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

umm

I did watch the whole Orlando – Cleveland series

In my opinion Delonte “short” coming was a large part of the reason we went out and got the likes of Moon and Parker

Come back is on!! Yeah Delonte must have entered the building!!!!

by a hay on Oct 28, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the Orlando series it was still obvious that Delonte was our second best player on the floor the vast majority of the time. If Parker is out there 40 minutes every night, we are screwed.

by Chief Wahoo on Oct 28, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It happens to be the biggest issue, I never said was the only issue, which you implied when stating someone here thought he’d “solve the problem.”

The truth is that he would in fact solve a problem, perimeter defense, which several here would agree is the “biggest issue” right now. And as Chief said, you’d know that if you watched this team play last year.

I’m guessing you didn’t. You’re probably just a troll from another blog.

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow… they’re going to lose.

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 7:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Halftime – 57-39…..Not Good, but 24 minutes remain….

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2009 7:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

my stream just completely died. i think that’s a sign i need to do homework instead. hopefully they can pull out a win but i’m out of here!

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 7:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cut the lead in 1/2 in the first 6 minutes of the quarter….Good sign.

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2009 8:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mo Williams finally shows up…Cavs creeping closer.

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2009 8:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Boobie for three, cuts the lead to 3.

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2009 8:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i stop watching the game and they cut the lead to 3. i’m going to keep following it on yahoo rather than watch it lol!

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 8:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, travel.

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hi everyone

I’m working right now again and can’t watch the game. What’s the story so far?

by WaveOcean on Oct 28, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Miserably slow start. Down 18 at the half. Clawed back into it with some 3’s, and real defense. Down 1, late 3rd.

by Chief Wahoo on Oct 28, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa, that's crazy

Well, we now know these Cavs are able to handle double digit deficits.

by WaveOcean on Oct 28, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LBJ with the steal, runs down court, draws the foul!

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And tie game.

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on LeBron, hit a damn free throw!

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Poor shot selection.

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 8:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

crap it’s getting away from us again.

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 8:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Out scored them 32-21, we just need to go on another tear.

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 8:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Let’s see if we get some vintage 4th quarter LeBron tonight.

by Chief Wahoo on Oct 28, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

once again, 2nd quarter screws them over.

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 8:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That’s 5 shots Shaq has missed from inside 5 feet – against an undersized Raptors team. That can’t happen – Shaq can’t help us that way.

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2009 8:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And he’s 0-5 from the charity stripe. Awesome.

by Chief Wahoo on Oct 28, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus minus for shaq

is -21 right now for shaqtus prime destoryer of all that is matter. i was really looking forward to seeing yall in the finals hopefully thats still possible

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by Czheck on Oct 28, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why do i feel like the cavs are going to complete the trifecta of disappointing cleveland teams this season? :(

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Z looks lost…

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2009 8:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i’m not asking for a 66 win team here, but i did not expect them to start 0-2 (if that’s what happens).

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 8:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s how they are losing that bothers me….

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Oct 28, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Not a good start, but not even close to something we can’t recover from, it’s still ridiculously early. Although, that’s not an excuse for complacency either.

Ugly start, but we need to learn what we can from it, and improve.

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mo is just awful so far. Everyone is pretty awful so far.

by Chief Wahoo on Oct 28, 2009 8:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what the heck happened to that fire in the 1st quarter last night? where did that team go? with each loss we get, the more i think about lebron leaving. i think championship or not he stays but you never know.

if they don’t beat minn or char, i will be very very worried.

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 8:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It does take much to defend Varajao, and he’s been pulling the trigger to soon on those. If you can’t make ‘em don’t take those so early in the shot clock.

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 8:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

lebron’s not having a good night, shooting wise. 6-16 FG, 0-3 3FG.
oh well, maybe tomorrow…

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 8:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

They have the night off tomorrow.

by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok, then next game

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, it’s only the first 2 games. the media will be all over this and lowering expectations, but whatever. i still believe! 80 games left.

by emily522 on Oct 28, 2009 8:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs


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