Struggles Continue - Raptors dump Cavaliers to 0-2
The Cavaliers are going to win a lot of games this season. It might not be 66(remember they started 1-2 last season) but there will be plenty to cheer. In the mean time, as this Cavaliers crew figures out how to play with each other, there are going to be some growing pains. Tonight was one of those.
Looking tired at times, disinterested at others, the Cavaliers dropped to 0-2, losing to the Raptors in Toronto's opener 101-91. For the Cavs the issues through the first two games are too numerous to talk about, but I'll try.
LeBron - Can't really say anything bad about the MVP. 38 points last night, a Triple-Double tonight(23-12-11). He can't do it all but the Cavaliers are forcing him to.
Shaq - The Cavaliers slow start has little to do with Shaq - other than his inability to hit easy shots. That is what Shaq was brought here for. Tonight Shaq missed no fewer than 6 shots inside of 5 feet. That can't happen - especially against a team like the Raptors that lack a true center. If Shaq plays that way he simply isn't helping the Cavaliers.
Anderson Varejao - I'm sure Anderson Varejao worked on his offense during the offseason, but early in the game, when Toronto jumped on the Cavs with a 15-6 start, Andy took shots on 4 straight possessions. To be honest, Varejao should be the 5th option on offense. If he is taking shots(of the fade-away variety) then he isn't in position to do what he does best - hustle for rebounds and get back on defense.
Mo Williams- Williams simply hasn't shown up yet this season. Perhaps it is all the new faces - not knowing how Shaq wants to set a pick, or where Anthony Parker is on the floor - but there really isn't an excuse.
Anthony Parker - Parker wasn't brought in to play 35-40 minutes a night. That is asking him to do way too much. Parker played 40 minutes last night and close to 40 tonight. Of course, much of that has to do with Delonte West's continued absence, the other the fact that Cleveland is getting nothing from the bench.
Zydrunas Ilgauskas - Big Z is suffering the most from Shaq's arrival. Whether it is struggling coming off the bench or something else, Z looks lost on the floor.
Defensively the Cavaliers are really struggling. They are getting burned on pick and rolls and allowing way too many easy baskets. I mean, seriously, Andrea Bargnani scores 28 points? In all, the Raptor front-court outscored the Cavs 'bigs' 49-14.
Let's face it, its tough to put yourself in an 18-point hole at halftime and expect to win. Still, the Cavaliers had tied the game, late in the 3rd, and was in position to get a win. I don't want to hear about new players - Toronto has 9 new players on it's roster and threw over 100 on the board against the Cavs. It goes deeper than that.
Perhaps it was the flu-bug that went through the team during Training Camp, maybe the injuries to Mo, and others. Of course, the uncertainty surrounding Delonte can't be helping.
Whatever the case, the Cavaliers will get it figured out. They have too....Right?
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The Cavs need
To stop the nonsense, I have a strong belief that the coach is a good guy, but lacks the ability to guide a championship team. When Lebron isn’t scoring, no one is, there is way too much talent on this team to not be able to score at will against most teams, especially Toronto. It is early, and the Cavs will be in it at the end, but the offense should’ve had a semblance of balance after preseason, and the defense might need help catching up. But damn, this team since the first quarter against Boston just doesn’t look good on either end. The issue isn’t the new people, or Delonte, those are the icing on the cake, the issue is coaching. This team is too good to have played this poorly. Boston is a damn good team, no shame losing to them, Toronto is greatly underestimated, but to get dominated at times is the part that alarms about this team. Will the real Cavaliers please stand up?
by Eric9321 on Oct 28, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t want to get into blaming it all on coaching, cause I don’t think Mike Brown somehow turned into a guy who can’t adjust or develop a good strategy (I mean he was coaching this team to the finals a few years ago with Lebron and nobody else remember?), but reading Windhorst’s post game blog notes and seeing how Windy called out that playing both Z and Shaq was absolutely killing us in the first half and should not happen again in the second half, and what does Mike Brown do, goes to it in the fourth quarter and the team collapses again, and his rationale that it worked well in Boston during the fourth quarter yesterday so he thought it would work good in the fourth quarter tonight, I mean come on man, you have to know that the how the lineup worked earlier in the exact same game you are playing is a much better indicator of how it will work in the future of this game (4th quarter) than how it worked in a different game vs. a different team on a different night. Not very smart.
by hans on Oct 29, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
0-2 do you feel blue?
Well two games down and eighty more to go. The Cavs look like a struggling team right now. The chemistry is definitely not there yet. I hope they dont dig themselves too deep a hole ou of the gate. The Cavs did start 2-3 last year so we’ll see what happens in the next week. This is really disappointing, but the season is a long one and its not how youre playing in November but how youre playing in April and May.
by RiverDoc56 on Oct 28, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
cavs need west back and trade big z and gibson to golden state for s.jackson mo williams is the weak link he cant defend,let west start at point and if we get jackson put him at the sg, and rotate parker and moon between the sg&sf and let mo williams come off the bench where he belongs,lebron varejao and shaq with hickson,poe backing shaq and varejao up and that got to use shaq in the 1st and 2nd while he fresh and get teams in foul trouble then let lebron the boys run wild anyway thats what i would do
by big 14 on Oct 28, 2009 9:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That doesn't sound good
I would think that the lineup should be Mo, Jackson, Bron, V, and Shaq. Delonte is not dependable enough to put into the starting lineup, at least not at this juncture. He could be suspended soon enough and the back and forth would probably just hurt. With him as a bench player, it is not as drastic, although it still hurts not having him. Mo is better than what he has shown, I am not sure why he lacks for confidence. What happened to the little guy who felt he was worthy of being an all star? I still feel it is the coaches job to have these guys playing a game that does not involve Lebron creating or making every shot.
by Eric9321 on Oct 28, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so….you are going to make a block buster trade after two games. A bit reactionary aren’t we?
by hans on Oct 29, 2009 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow . . . that is one long sentence.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 29, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson
by Gils_Keloids on Oct 28, 2009 10:17 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I don’t care if you’re an LA fan, that’s worth a REC.
by Simmsinns on Oct 28, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
team chemistry excuse!
the cavs can’t use this as a reason for losing last night.
they were the best team in the regular season last year and only have maybe 3 new faces playin close to 20 minutes?!
but look at the raptors. this team was under .500 and out of the playoffs. they changed pretty much everything on their team, keeping 3 players and bringing in 9 new guys. i don’t see anyone in toronto using chemistry as an excuse after dominating the cavs 90% of the game last night.
i think the cavs will be the best team again, hands down. but this raptors team looks great! with 4-5 starters that an easily put up 20 points a game and a bench that can shut down any top offense!!!
by theenrique on Oct 29, 2009 6:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Il Mago...
Has anyone seen Bargnani play? He dropped 28, which is below his career best…that guy can light it up and has improved considerably with respect to defense, which was nonexistent…
The guy has an amazing array of offensive moves and upped his scoring average last year to 15 from 10 the year previous while doubling his rebounding output…
He’s gonna make the all-star team this year after dropping 19 a game…..
by Sebastian777 on Oct 29, 2009 10:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Magic started 0-2 last year
Cavs will be A-OK.
Keep pumpin, ain't worried bout nuttin
Busters thought we was frontin, so reload and keep dumpin
Keep Sleeping on Orlando...
by BS Patrol on Oct 29, 2009 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i’ll admit i was a bit panicky last night, but everyone… RELAX!!!! there is still 80 games left. maybe we won’t see a 66 win season again, but they will definitely make the playoffs. how many wins did they have the year they went to the championship? wasn’t it 40-something? (a lot of that was lebron single-handedly owning detroit, but my point is that they don’t need to win over 60 games to make it to the title).
by emily522 on Oct 29, 2009 2:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cavs are a good basketball team. Last year was truly a great year, ripping off 66 wins, and it might be a bit unrealistic for us as fans to take that for granted and expect a repeat of the same. This team needs a chance to mesh; we’ve added a lot of new pieces and players are still trying to find their roles. That said, I’m a bit disappointed how we’ve opened things up — though I’m not hitting the panic button.
In the first two games, we’ve seen the King have big performances. This is actually normally an ominous sign as it means the rest of the team is sluggish and LeBron is picking up all the slack. I hope that changes soon, we get some momentum and everything starts to gel. We’ll have to see where this team is at in the coming weeks.
by Western Reserve on Oct 29, 2009 3:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The difference between Kobe/Jordan and Lebron in current form
I said this all along during pre-season, but most Cav’s fans are too much in love with Lebron to listen.
First off, I should say that it is only 2 games and this early in the season it means nothing. Don’t panic yet, and the Cavs should win a lot of games this year. What I’m talking about is against the better competition in the league, like Boston/Magic/Lakers/etc, and in last year’s playoffs.
Lebron is a dominant player, and racks up great stats. But judging a player on stats is ridiculous. Why? Because if Kobe or Wade or Carmelo dominated the ball as much as Lebron, they would get the same ridiculous stats. In order to win championships, it is NOT about the great player getting his stats. Heck, in last year’s playoffs, the Lakers played far better when Kobe would take 20 or LESS shots. Why?
Because basketball is a TEAM game. When your offense consists of giving the ball to Lebron and saying “go get it for us big fella” which is something Coach Brown ACUTALLY SAID last year, you are in trouble. Of course it is going to make Lebron look amazing and his teammates look like garbage. Why wouldn’t it? Who would look good if they are just standing around waiting for 1 player to dominate? The offense is stagnant, and no one has confidence.
What great players do in order to win CHAMPIONSHIPS is to make other average players on your team look like all-stars. How? Well this requires sacraficing your own stats. It requires to take the double team and swing the ball around the perimeter for the open 3. Something which gets you no assists. It requires staying INSIDE your offense with everyone touching the ball. It requires getting EASY baskets for your teammates vs getting hard baskets for yourself.
Jordan realized this late in his career and that’s why he won 6 rings. Kobe is playing like this now and that’s why the Lakers look so good. The lakers look like a TEAM, a fully functioning mechanism. The Cavs look stagnant and 1 dimensional.
Lebron needs to stop worrying about his own stats and stay inside the offense. Furthermore, you guys need a new coach who actually has an offense to stay inside of. The other players on the Cavs are very good. They just look horrible when Lebron hogs the ball all day. Just think about it, the Cavs have 4 all-stars on the team. Shaq, Mo and Lebron all went to the all-star game last year. Big Z has gone twice in his career and his numbers are right at the level they were when he went to those 2 all-star games. On the other hand the lakers have 2 all-stars in Pau/Kobe and Artest who went to 1 all-star game. However, Artest’s game has dropped since his all-star appearance.
The Cavs have a great supporting cast. You guys need to open your eyes and point the fault to the coach and Lebron. This “system” of giving the ball to Lebron and getting out of the way will NEVER EVER win a ring! EVER! Guaranteed!
by plyka on Oct 29, 2009 9:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good Post
Perhaps it is LBJ that is the problem
until Garnett figured out he cannot win it himself, Minn was a team that never missed the playoffs but never got close to the big one, maybe that need to happen to James. He needs to know, he has the team mates to win with. 2 Qs remain
Does he have the team mates at Cleveland?
Will he learn this before leaving Cleveland? (like Garnett)
by a hay on Oct 29, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LeBron has always been a great teammates and uses his teammates help to win games. Always. He played that way in high school and he has played that way since the first season in the NBA. Everyone who watches the NBA knows that, and anyone who says differently isn’t being honest.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 30, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that’s a good post, and I generally agree with the sentiment but perhaps with a few caveats. As I stated in an earlier post, I agree, the Cavs typically aren’t performing particularly well when LeBron has a huge game; it’s normally a sign of little production from his teammates. But I wonder if we don’t have a bit of ‘the chicken or the egg’ problem here: Is the problem LeBron getting too many touches and not utilizing his teammates, or is it because his teammates are underperforming that James has to take control? Generally, LeBron is a willing passer, a pretty darn good passer at that, and it’s an important part of his game that he seems to take pride in. I’ve never associated his touches with him being a ball hog, but maybe you are right and sometimes he is handling the ball too much. I’d certainly agree that more guys need to be incorporated offensively.
On the nights we lose especially, the Cavs offense almost always looks one dimensional — that’s a good observation. There just isn’t enough movement, and I’ve always felt like the team stands around waiting for LeBron to initiate the action.
Again, in the coming weeks I think we’ll get a much better view of where this team is at this year. Hopefully things are looking up by then.
by Western Reserve on Oct 30, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The difference between Kobe/Jordan and Lebron in current form
Phil Jackson
by dvd1204 on Oct 30, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, look, its another Lakers fan coming here to show us Cavs fans why we’re biased. How thoughtful. It is so nice for all these Lakers fans to help us open our eyes and see why Kobe is, and always will be, a better player than LeBron. I’m sure there is no bias in Lakers fans doing that.
by Buckeye Brad on Oct 30, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mr.Ferry,
Please trade Z and boobie and get us Jackson
we need a viable 2nd scoring option!!!!!!!!!!
then sign daniels
Im the poor man's corey maggette!!!
by Chucky Brown on Oct 30, 2009 10:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Shaq
This hall of famer is not going to do anything for our beloved Cavs. I love the man, but he can’t shoot, he can’t foul shoot, his feet are two (both) slow for defense. Granted he can pull a few rebounds down, but the Cavs have done that for the last several years anyway. Last year’s losses in the playoffs were due to poor coaching and inexperience playoff players. Mo froze and that was the biggest contributing factor to losses in the finals. If he’d hit some of his normal threes, Cleveland would have been golden. Now they’ve disbanded a championship team for the sake of Shaq. Where the sun set in Pheonix and not rise like he promised the fans. These moves bring the prospect of a long hard winter in Cleveland now for us Cavs fans to accompany our inept Brown’s team.
by sandball on Oct 31, 2009 7:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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