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Game #8 - Cleveland Cavaliers at Orlando Magic Game Night Open Thread

Cleveland Cavaliers at Orlando Magic, Nov 11, 2009 7:00 PM CST


2009/2010 NBA Regular Season
VS
6-24-3
November 11, 2009
Orlando, FL
7:00 PM
Radio - WTAM 1100 / TV - ESPN HD / FSOhio
Probable starters:
Jameer Nelson PG Mo Williams
Vince Carter SG Anthony Parker
Matt Barnes SF LeBron James
Brandon Bass PF J.J. Hickson
Dwight Howard C Shaquille O'Neal

I'm sure many of you have had this game circled on the calendar for a while.  Just keep in mind that neither team is a finished product and no matter what happens tonight - good or bad - there is A LOT more basketball to be played.  Enjoy it for what it is.

Oh yea, it might be a good idea to keep an eye on Shaq V. Howard.  This is what Shaq was brought here for.

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  • Cleveland will head to Florida for a back-to-back road trip with the top two teams in the Southeast Division, Orlando and Miami.The team will try to extend their streak of four victories in the last five games. The first game against the Magic will feature two ofthe NBA's Top 10 teams in three-point shooting with Cleveland (.440) ranking 2nd and Orlando (.388) ranking 7th. Both teamsalso take care of the defensive glass, each giving up only 8.6 offensive rebounds per game to their opponents, fewest in the NBA.
  • With their 100-91 victory over the Knicks in Madison Square Garden on Friday, Cleveland has won six consecutive games againstNew York, including the last four on the road. In this span, the Cavs have outscored the Knicks by an average margin of 110.2-95.7 while shooting .498 from the field compared to .426 from the Knicks.
  • In Cleveland's last five games, the team's defense has held opponents to just .418 (164-392) shooting from the field and 86.6 pointsper game. Cleveland's defense so far on the season ranks 5th in the NBA in opponent points per game (89.9), 6th in defensivefield goal percentage (.427) and is tied for 8th in blocks (5.6) per game. The team is allowing 29.7 points in the paint, the 2ndfewest in the NBA and after giving up only two to Chicago last Thursday and four to the Knicks last Friday, and ranks 1st insecond chance points allowed at only 9.0 points per game. The Cavaliers rank 8th in fewest fast break points allowed at 10.1.
  • Against the Knicks, LeBron James scored 19 points in the first quarter on 8-9 (.889) shooting, the third-highest opening periodtotal in his career, on his way to a game-high 33 points on 12-17 (.706) shooting, eight rebounds, a game-high nine assists and threesteals in 36 minutes. James' performance led the team to score a season-high 40 points in the first quarter on 16-22 (.727) shooting.
  • In 11 career games at the Garden, LeBron James has averaged 30.4 points on .487 shooting, including .458 from behind the arc,5.8 rebounds, 6.8 assists and 2.4 steals. James ranks 2nd in scoring behind K. Bryant at 30.5 for visiting players. (STATS, Inc.) Forthe season, James is averaging 26.3 points, 7.7 rebounds and 8.0 assists (ranks 2nd in the East) and 1.7 steals in 37.9 minutes.
  • In his first game off the bench this season on Friday, Anderson Varejao finished with eight points, a game-high 14 rebounds (fiveoffensive), two blocks and two steals in 34 minutes. Varejao has now led the team in rebounding in five straight games andrecorded double figure rebounds in three straight games.
  • Against the Knicks, Daniel Gibson scored 11 points and connected on three three-pointers. Gibson has scored in double figures infour of the team's seven games this season and is averaging 8.7 points while shooting 17-34 (.500) from behind the arc.
  • Through the first seven games, the team has made 59 three-point field goals, which is twelve more than the team's previous bestmark of 47 in 2007-08. The team ranks 2nd (Phoenix) in three-point percentage at 59-134 (.440) and is one of the most improvedteams in shooting three-pointers from last season (.393) to this season (.440). (STATS, Inc.)
  • For players with at least 10 three-point attempts, the Cavaliers have three players in the Top 25 in the NBA. Anthony Parker, whowent a combined 5-6 (833) over the last two games, ranks 8th in three-point shooting at 14-25 (.560) while Daniel Gibson ranks16th at 17-34 (.500). Mo Williams is also shooting 14-30 (.467) on three-pointers this season, which ranks 23rd.
  • Against the Knicks, Zydrunas Ilgauskas had a near double-double with nine points and 11 rebounds. Ilgauskas (714 games played,667 starts) is only six games away from tying Bingo Smith (720 games) for second all-time (Danny Ferry, 723 games) in gamesplayed in franchise history.

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Was Tirico right? Is it only JJ’s second season in the league? Isn’t he a third year player?

by Chief WaDrew on Nov 11, 2009 7:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Really seems like he’s been sitting at the end of the bench for longer.

by Chief WaDrew on Nov 11, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think I’m going to like Hickson starting. It allows him more time to develop as a player and Varajao coming of the bench gives that squad a boost with his energy he brings to the game.

by Simmsinns on Nov 11, 2009 7:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

This unfortunately may be the smartest offensive move Mike Brown has ever made.

by Chief WaDrew on Nov 11, 2009 7:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist
Baseball’s biggest busts Andy Marte.

by E5 on Nov 11, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

BUT

I cringe every time he heaves one of those outlets the length of the floor…that has been where a lot of his turnovers occur

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

best news I've heard about this situation

"This free agent talk is getting old. It’s getting old and I think I’m going to stop. Tonight will be the last time I answer any more free agent questions until the offseason," James said.

"I think I owe it to myself, and I owe it to my teammates. It’s just getting old. I’m focusing on this season, and this is going to be a really good season for us. I don’t want anymore distractions for my teammates, for my organization, for my family. This will be the last time I answer a free agent question for the rest of the year."

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 7:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Now if the national media would get the memo, that would be great.

by Chief WaDrew on Nov 11, 2009 7:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m loving this 1 guard and 4 forwards line-up.

by Simmsinns on Nov 11, 2009 7:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Mo, Lebron, Moon, Hickson, Varajao

by Simmsinns on Nov 11, 2009 7:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Spoke to soon, just came on.

by Simmsinns on Nov 11, 2009 7:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah I see

If Mo keeps this pace up …

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 7:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I still would like to see them attack inside more no matter who is at center for the Magic

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 7:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Howard makes it more difficult, but I agree

by Chief WaDrew on Nov 11, 2009 7:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

So, is it just a confidence issue for Boobie?

by Chief WaDrew on Nov 11, 2009 7:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

minutes

the more he plays the better he shoots…MB gave him the quick hook too often last year

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 7:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He also was hurt

most of the year and that effected both his minutes and shooting percentage.

All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist
Baseball’s biggest busts Andy Marte.

by E5 on Nov 11, 2009 8:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

11 point lead

Oh, this is so satisfying to watch…getting a win here would feel so refreshing.

by WaveOcean on Nov 11, 2009 7:35 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

THAT is a strange lineup

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 7:37 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Isn’t it fun when your team is making the threes and the other team isn’t? FOR ONCE?

by WaveOcean on Nov 11, 2009 7:42 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Damn, good call…

by Simmsinns on Nov 11, 2009 7:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Four centers on the floor. Is this a freaking chess game?

by Simmsinns on Nov 11, 2009 7:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Can’t this team do anything right without LeBron?

by WaveOcean on Nov 11, 2009 7:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Williams

by WaveOcean on Nov 11, 2009 7:48 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Shaq, that was embarrassing, but you made up for it on the other end

by WaveOcean on Nov 11, 2009 7:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Good, hack-a-shaq isn’t working

by WaveOcean on Nov 11, 2009 7:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Mo is really on fire…

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 7:52 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

we would have been unstoppable if he played like this in the ECF

by WaveOcean on Nov 11, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He’s playing like he has something to prove

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 7:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What?! Howard shoved LeBron.

by Simmsinns on Nov 11, 2009 8:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I was just checking out 3rd quarter collapse…and the excuses about missing players and the “one sided refs” is what they’re saying over there

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 8:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Like I give a shit

by WaveOcean on Nov 11, 2009 8:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

im sorry but its stuff thats happening with these calls now that makes me believe all that crap that donohey was saying about fixing games … dwight has 3 so shaq has to get 3 … makes me sad

by jsneides on Nov 11, 2009 8:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I guess when

you’re 25th in the league on defense (magic) fouling is all there is to stop the other team

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 8:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else watching this on FoxSports Ohio? Good stuff.

by Simmsinns on Nov 11, 2009 8:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

no matter what channel it’s on, I listen to Joe

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 8:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

wow, great half for the most part! i got a little worried when they cut the lead to 8, but they came back the last 2 minutes to extend it to 15 again. nice.

mo williams is on fire. 9-9, 22 points? that’s insane. i loved that play when lebron fell, z passed it to mo, and he took it to the rim.

2-11 3pt for orlando. idk if that’s because they are having a bad night from behind the arc or if the defense is just doing really well. probably a little of both.

i find it funny how when the cavs get a nice lead on the magic, the announcers start praising them. before this, there was a ton of doubt and people were already saying the cavs can’t win the championship.

shaq’s doing pretty well. missed some easy shots early in the game, though. but i won’t be too critical.

by emily522 on Nov 11, 2009 8:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yep

This is a night and day differance on how we were able ( unable) to play the Magic last year. I am impressed so far.

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Nov 11, 2009 8:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I wonder what kind of crap Delonte pulled to get deactivated for this game?

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 8:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I can't imagine what he did either

you never know with mental illness. I don’t like he looks very "settled " the times I have seen him this year. I smell trouble with him.

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Nov 11, 2009 8:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

opps

I dont think.

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Nov 11, 2009 8:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

LeBron + Mo = 45 points…would like to see someone else in double figures

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 8:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Damn, Parker gets back to back threes.

by Simmsinns on Nov 11, 2009 8:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

If I was a Magic fan, the Vince Carter trade would have made me absolutely sick. Now they’re a “VC miss show” because he’s not to fond of passing.

by Simmsinns on Nov 11, 2009 8:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

from 3rd quqrter collapse game thread

 Losing to the Cavs

“We wont hear the end of this one from the media and Cav fans”

HAHAHA

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 8:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I am up for some "payback"

but there is a lot of balling left

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Nov 11, 2009 8:50 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

with a 20 point lead for the Cavs going into the 4th, Orlando is going to have to do a complete turnaround to win this one

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 8:59 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I am not worried about Orlando..

the zebras are another matter.

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Nov 11, 2009 9:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not one game does a season make. They are also playing without Lewis.

by Chief WaDrew on Nov 11, 2009 9:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

even with Lewis Orlando loses this game….one guy can’t make up for the total lack of team defense

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 9:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and Ryan Anderson

its true the Magic are not at full strength but a Win is A win is a A Win. I think Mo Williams is going to take the Orlando match ups personal from now on. The Cavs are a much better match up against the Magic this year.

All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist
Baseball’s biggest busts Andy Marte.

by E5 on Nov 11, 2009 9:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

can’t believe moon missed that dunk. good defense, should’ve gotten 2 for that.

by emily522 on Nov 11, 2009 8:58 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Kind of sucks

when you can’t defend the 3 pointer and even when you do they hit them. Its sucks when they have a low post player you can’t defend one on one and when you do he makes you pay. It sucks when they have the best player in the world and he can carve your best defense up. Orlando is going to find it much harder to beat the Cavs this year.

All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist
Baseball’s biggest busts Andy Marte.

by E5 on Nov 11, 2009 8:59 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

the biggest difference so far

is MB actually getting everyone involved in games…we’ll need a full 10 man rotation all year to go into the playoffs with “fresh” legs

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 9:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I’d say it’s safe to stick a fork in ’em.

by Simmsinns on Nov 11, 2009 9:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i wonder if those cleveland.com idiots finally realize how stupid it was for them to say the team sucked after 3 games.

by emily522 on Nov 11, 2009 9:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That will NEVER happen. We are talking about cleveland.com here.

by Chief WaDrew on Nov 11, 2009 9:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

and Mo is carving up them turkeys

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Nov 11, 2009 9:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Mo

MO

All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist
Baseball’s biggest busts Andy Marte.

by E5 on Nov 11, 2009 9:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

time to get the bench out there pretty soon…put Darnell and Coby in

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 9:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

pretty solid game

by hans on Nov 11, 2009 9:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

although a little sloppy lately

by hans on Nov 11, 2009 9:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Very sloppy.

by Chief WaDrew on Nov 11, 2009 9:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

tends to happen with a twenty point lead in the fourth quarter, the offense is basically what Lebron wants every play now instead of working through teamates, he’s trying to have fun, but its sloppy.

by hans on Nov 11, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This is what really frustrates me

MB HAS to get the starters some rest in garbage time…who cares if they win by one or twenty?

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 9:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The conclusion of this game has not been in question since the beginning of the second quarter. Whatever the final score, let the record show, this game was over before halftime.

by Chief WaDrew on Nov 11, 2009 9:29 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

my point exactly

why risk your starters to a “revenge foul” when the game is basically won?

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the offense was pretty sloppy in most of the 3rd and 4th quarters. they got outscored 26-16 in the 4th, but i guess they just kind of backed off at that point.

overall, a good win for the team. they needed this.

by emily522 on Nov 11, 2009 9:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yep

AS AC said the Cavs need to go on a winning streak. I dont know the schedule but 10 wins in a row would be nice

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Nov 11, 2009 9:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

remaining games in november:
miami, utah, golden state, washington, indiana, philly, detroit, charlotte, dallas

by emily522 on Nov 11, 2009 9:36 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHA

have it memorized?

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 9:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

haha no i looked it up on yahoo

by emily522 on Nov 12, 2009 6:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ok Cavs…give Miami their 2nd loss

by cavslandrocks on Nov 11, 2009 9:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Good night Cavs fans

sleep well

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Nov 11, 2009 9:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Good win tonight, Cavs fans.

As a Magic fan, it wasn’t a great game for me, but your guys came out with guns blazing and never let up. I’m liking this little rivalry we have with you guys. We’ll see you next time.

by pjlawrence81 on Nov 11, 2009 9:47 PM CST reply actions   0 recs


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