Washington @ Cleveland GameThread, Nov 3, 2009 6:00 PM CST

Game #5 - Washington Wizards at Cleveland Cavaliers Game Night Discussion Thread

by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Nov 3, 2009 5:00 PM CST in 2009 Game Day Thread Comment 77 comments

Washington Wizards at Cleveland Cavaliers, Nov 3, 2009 6:00 PM CST

2009/2010 NBA Regular Season
	VS
2-1		2-2
November 3, 2009
Quicken Loans Arena, Cleveland, OH
7:00 PM
Radio - WTAM 1100 / TV - FSOhio HD
Probable starters:
Gilbert Arenas	PG	Mo Williams
Mike Miller	SG	Anthony Parker
Caron Butler	SF	LeBron James
Fabricio Oberto	PF	Anderson Varejao
Brendan Haywood	C	Shaquille O'Neal

First things first. These two teams don't like each other too much - stemming from 3-straight playoffs defeats at the hands of the Cavaliers for the Wizards. Of course, it takes two for there to be a rivalry and in all honesty, the Cavaliers just don't care all that much about the Wizards - at least as much as Washington seems to be concerned with them.

The Cavaliers will likely see a spirited group tonight - but that shouldn't be different than any game this season. When you win 66 games teams are going to be gunning for ya. The Cavaliers are still working out the kinks in their new roster as well.

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The Cavaliers have defeated the Wizards five consecutive games at Quicken Loans Arena, winning the five games by an average margin of 99.8 - 88.6, shooting .474 from the field to the Wizards .434 and outrebounding Washington 47.2 - 34.6.
Versus Charlotte, Mo Williams tallied a game-high 24 points on 9-14 (.643) shooting, including 5-8 (.625) on three-point attempts, three assists, one steal and one block in 35 minutes. On the season, Williams is averaging 18.0 points, 2.0 rebounds and3.5 assists and is shooting 10-19 (.526) on three-pointers and 18-20 (.900) from the free throw line.
LeBron James notched 14 points, a team-high nine assists and seven rebounds in 37 minutes versus the Bobcats. For the season,James is leading the team in points (24.8), rebounds (7.8) and assists (8.8 - ranks 5th in the NBA) in 38.8 minutes per game.
In his first game of the season, Delonte West scored 13 points (all in the second half) on 5-7 (.741) shooting in 24 minutes to leadthe Cavaliers bench, while adding two rebounds, two assists and a steal. For the second straight night, two Cavs' bench playershit double figures in scoring as the bench scored 25 points on 11-18 (.611) shooting.
Zydrunas Ilgauskas added 10 points off the bench on a perfect 5-5 shooting from the field in 20 minutes versus the Bobcats.Ilgauskas also had a season-high five of the Cavaliers nine blocks for the game. Over his last two games, he is averaging 12.5 pointson 12-19 (632) shooting, 4.0 rebounds and 2.5 blocks. Ilgauskas (711 games played, 667 starts) is only nine games away from tying Bingo Smith (720 games) for second all-time (Danny Ferry, 723 games) in games played in franchise history.
On Saturday, Anthony Parker scored 10 of his 13 points in the first half, while shooting 5-8 (.625) from the field, including 3-4 (.750)on three-pointers in 31 minutes. Parker is averaging 10.3 points, while shooting a team-best 8-13 (.615) from behind the arc, 3.0rebounds and 2.5 assists in 35.5 minutes on the season.
Anderson Varejao six points and added eight rebounds to go with a game-high three steals and a block in 33 minutes on Saturday.Varejao is averaging 7.5 points and 7.5 rebounds in 31.5 minutes on the season.
After Saturday's win, Cleveland has defeated the Bobcats in seven consecutive games and now has an all-time record of 10-0against Charlotte at Quicken Loans Arena. The 10-game winning streak is Cleveland's second-longest home winning streak tobegin a series behind the 14-game home winning streak against the Charlotte Hornets from Nov. 15, 1994 - Dec. 28, 1998. The Cavaliers have won 40 of their last 43 regular season home games. (STATS, Inc.)
On Saturday the Cavs' toughened up the defense in the second half, holding the Bobcats to just 11-29 (.379) shooting and just 38points. The Bobcats finished with 79 points, marking the first time the Cavs held an opponent under 80 points this season.The team also allowed just two fast break points while scoring 12 of their own.
Cleveland's defense so far on the season ranks sixth in the NBA in opponent points per game (90.5), 9th in opponent field goalpercentage (.435), 6th in blocks per game (6.5) and 8th in steals per game (7.8). The Cavaliers rank first in giving up secondchance points at only 7.6 points per game, are also only allowing 32.7 points in the paint, which is the 4th fewest in the league.
The Cavs connected on 9-16 (.563) shots from beyond the arc against Charlotte after going 10-18 (.556) against Minnesota onFriday. For the season the team is shooting 34-73 (.466), which ranks 3rd in the NBA with Anthony Parker leading the team at 8-13 (.615), Mo Williams at 10-19 (.526) and Daniel Gibson at 8-18 (.444).

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Shaq and Andy scoring?

If this becomes consistent, we will be unstoppable.

by Simmsinns on Nov 3, 2009 6:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Hardly

Them scoring helps but it is not the end all be all.

All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist
Baseball’s biggest busts Andy Marte.

by E5 on Nov 3, 2009 6:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Cavs

effort is picking up now but the hole they are in isn’t helping, thanks Mike Brown.

All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist
Baseball’s biggest busts Andy Marte.

by E5 on Nov 3, 2009 6:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I love

Delonte West. Give this guy a break Cleveland the guy is a straight up baller.

All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist
Baseball’s biggest busts Andy Marte.

by E5 on Nov 3, 2009 7:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Run Run Run

I love this effort from the Cavs.

All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist
Baseball’s biggest busts Andy Marte.

by E5 on Nov 3, 2009 7:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

talk about a come back! wish i could watch the game instead of just following yahoo’s box score!

by emily522 on Nov 3, 2009 7:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Do you have Cable

right now, NBA League pass is free.

All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist
Baseball’s biggest busts Andy Marte.

by E5 on Nov 3, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i have directtv, but after going through the sports category, i found it on csn.

by emily522 on Nov 3, 2009 7:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ok good

watch Delonte he is really playing great.

All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist
Baseball’s biggest busts Andy Marte.

by E5 on Nov 3, 2009 7:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i wish he’d get his personal issues settled, though.

by emily522 on Nov 3, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Sure wish he would as well but thats how it goes

gifted in one area, defective in others.

All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist
Baseball’s biggest busts Andy Marte.

by E5 on Nov 3, 2009 7:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hello everyone

I’ve been working the entire afternoon and my livestream is too poor to let me watch the game. How’s it going?

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 7:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Delonte West

is the difference in the game. The stats don’t look impressive but if you were watching the game you would see it.

All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist
Baseball’s biggest busts Andy Marte.

by E5 on Nov 3, 2009 7:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The Cavs really like to play with double digit deficits, huh?

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Moon for 3

Why are Ilgauskas and Shaq both on the floor?

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Because Mike Brown

hasn’t figured out two slow footed centers don’t work.

All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist
Baseball’s biggest busts Andy Marte.

by E5 on Nov 3, 2009 8:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Sigh

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

10 point Cavs lead

Did Whizzer fans want a piece of our team? They’re getting what they wanted!

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

after the first quarter,

it has been ALLLL cavs!

by emily522 on Nov 3, 2009 8:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

holy crap, who blocked that?

by emily522 on Nov 3, 2009 8:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Either moon

or Ilgauskas

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i think it was moon b/c after the block they said his name. what a block there.

by emily522 on Nov 3, 2009 8:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

3 by Williams

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

gibson*

by emily522 on Nov 3, 2009 8:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

3 pointer? yes please!

by emily522 on Nov 3, 2009 8:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

shaq’s been great tonight

by emily522 on Nov 3, 2009 8:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

He’s been moving a lot more

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I can't believe we didn't get this game broadcast on NBATV

Who wants to watch the Lakers play a weak team in Oklahoma they have no connection to?

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Wait a sec

The OKC rip-offs are actually putting up a fight. This Laker team is much easier to beat without Gasoil.

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

sweet. what’s the score?

by emily522 on Nov 3, 2009 8:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

halftime, 52-51 LAL

Also, Detroit is hanging around against Orlando

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

that’d be awesome if the lakers lost.

by emily522 on Nov 3, 2009 8:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

gibson is 4-4 on 3 pointers.

by emily522 on Nov 3, 2009 8:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Man, if only Gibson could shoot like this on the road

He’d be such a great player

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

i wish shaq could make free throws.

by emily522 on Nov 3, 2009 8:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I think you’re asking a little much of the Big Court Jester

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

he’s 7/10 tonight. i didn’t know that.

by emily522 on Nov 3, 2009 8:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

that was all ball.

by emily522 on Nov 3, 2009 8:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

21 points by Shaq

That’s a lot. He had more points than LeBron in the first quarter

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Mooooo

With the dagger!!!

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Nov 3, 2009 8:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Remember when we were trailing this team by 14?

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

i remember seeing that thinking: wtf?
but i knew they’d come back :)

by emily522 on Nov 3, 2009 8:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

You just know the Lizward fans are gnashing their teeth right now! LOL

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Nov 3, 2009 8:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And DeShawn Stevenson

looks like a terrorist

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Nov 3, 2009 8:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Probably whining

about how we get all the calls

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Bullets Forever called us the Cleveland CrabDribblers

Whizzer fans hold desperately to that name, because it reminds them of the only bright spot in their awful season last year.

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Their fans....

are lower than whale dung! Bunch of whiners….

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Nov 3, 2009 8:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

What did they do to you?

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I go to their website and "engage" them..

they hate (HATE) LeBron like no other. I can’’t respect that. They are passionate but not too bright…overall

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Nov 3, 2009 9:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You called DeShawn Stevenson a "terrorist" and said we're all stupid

That’s not engaging, that’s trolling.

It’s like walking up to another guy and calling his girlfriend ugly. Just not cool.

You know you'll get devoured by Cheaney, Wallace, and Juwan Howard.

by Mike Prada on Nov 3, 2009 10:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't say you were stupid...

just not too bright. There is a difference. You know, close to normal IQ but dull. You complain about and cry about the refs and the star treatment LeBron gets. It gets so old. Grow a pair and and realize your team only plays at one end of the. The Jizards will never beat the Cavs without playing D. But thats not in their DNA. Sorry but anybody with half an ounce of basketball knowledge understands this.

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on Nov 4, 2009 8:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

and the Traveliers

by cavslandrocks on Nov 3, 2009 8:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Final score, 102-90

No hard feelings, Whizzers. Better team won, that’s all.

And hello, what’s this? Could Detroit beat Orlando?

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

The Lakers and the Thunder are tied

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Oh damnit, I called them the Thunder instead of the ripoffs…great.

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Lamar Odom called for a charge

That’s…an odd call

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

OKC ripoffs lead by 1

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

ripoffs by 2

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

end of 3rd

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm just wondering

how many Cavs bashers are still going to insist that LeBron can’t score with Shaq on the floor

by cavslandrocks on Nov 3, 2009 8:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

That's one of the reasons I'm getting tired of the lakers

a lot of laker fans were crowing about that before the season

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

poster slam dunk by jeff green

ripoffs by 4

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

2 and a half to go

pistons and magic are tied

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

pistons by 2 with 1:51 to go

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

40 seconds to go

pistons by 4

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 9:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

14 seconds

pistons by 5

oh yes. Oh yes!

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 9:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Pistons win

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet. About friggin’ time the magic started losing.

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 9:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ford Center is chanting "Beat LA"

Everyone loves doing it

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 8:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

kobe tries a fastbreak and charges. 4th foul on kobe. I hope he’s happy.

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 9:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

ripoffs aren’t making much of a loud crowd and energetic effort

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 9:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

2:44, lakers by 5

yawn

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 9:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

1:50, tie game

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 9:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

49 seconds, still tied

I wonder how many Laker fans are biting their nails right now

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 9:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

25 seconds

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

2.7 seconds left

by emily522 on Nov 3, 2009 9:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Aaaaaaaaaand Durant just pulled a Zach Randolph

his 3 pointer for the win was an air ball

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 9:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

OT

I’m not going to stick around and see how the game ends, because I have a meeting in a few minutes. Good night everyone, and thanks for a great game thread.

by WaveOcean on Nov 3, 2009 9:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs