Which Remaining Team has the Least Desire?
Some teams lose because they have less talent and others lose because they just don't have enough desire up and down the roster.
The Chicago Bulls had desire, I think, but not enough talent. The Houston Rockets clearly have desire, as do the Cavs.
But the Lakers, Celtics and Magic are lacking in desire. They kind of want it, but not that bad. The Magic have been choking. The Celtics won last year and may feel down without KG. The Lakers can't put away an injury-depleted Rockets team.
Which one wants it less?
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Celtics
want it but they don’t have the talent. Rondo has been playing out of his mind but against the Cavs he is going to find life much harder. The Magic played like they wanted it tonight so lets see what happens game 7. The Lakers don’t care and clearly have some major issues. IF they win that series I believe the Nuggets will destroy them. Imagine Lebron vs Carmelo in the finals just like the NBA wanted it years ago when they came into the league. Sure glad Detriot didn’t take Melo.
Baseball is God's sport! All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist
I'd worry more about Chauncy Billups
Hey! I saw you on Silver Screen and Roll. When I saw your name I thought, “doesn’t that person post comments on a different blog from SSR?” Man, do the lakers look bored or what?
I voted Magic,
but I really do hope it’s the Lakers. I kinda suspect that Kobe just wants no part of Labron, and I really don’t blame him.
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by TrentEdwardsHoF2018
at least try to spell his name right… LeBron
by DontCallMeJoey on May 15, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh so sorry....
really? that’s the response I get hear? SPELL HIS NAME RIGHT?!?! Who the phuq cares? You obviously knew who I was talking about….
It’s good to know that I can go to just about every other teams blog and get decent conversation, engaging ideas, but if I need a spelling refresher with a condescending tone, I can come hear.
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by TrentEdwardsHoF2018
by Screen Name on May 15, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Something funny
LeBron has that little red line underneath that lets me know that it’s misspelled, or not really a word, Kobe does not. Is that just cause Kobe’s been doing it longer? How come Kobe’s a real word and LeBron’s not? How many more years before LeBron get’s the recognition he deserves from Chromes’ spell checker??
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by TrentEdwardsHoF2018
by Screen Name on May 15, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
You are a
? Kobe is a Japanese steak.
Baseball is God's sport! All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist
by E5 on May 15, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s a city
I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck
by Turkmenbashi on May 17, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe but it also a
steak look it up.
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by E5 on May 17, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, it’s a type of beef but it’s also a city. Not sure if/how the two are related.
I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck
by Turkmenbashi on May 17, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Jelly Bean
named his child Kobe because of the “beef” not the city.
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by E5 on May 17, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
try to lighten up a bit, man…maybe a sugar free red bull tomorrow. around here, misspelling LeBron is a borderline bannable offense…
at this stage, i’m not sure kobe should want any part of LeBron, either, with the way their two teams are playing. that doesn’t mean that kobe doesn’t want to reach the finals, of course, but there can’t be any team out there aching to match up with the cavs.
the lake-show need to worry about denver at this point.
by DontCallMeJoey on May 15, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
They're still buzy with the depleted Rockets.
I imagine Kobe hoping for an injury, any excuse to not have to face LeBron.
around here, misspelling LeBron is a borderline bannable offense
lol, fair enough, as they say, when in Rome….
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by TrentEdwardsHoF2018
What the lakers lack in intensity
They more than make up for with their keen sense of entitlement.
I have a really hard time judging a team’s “desire”. You cannot tell what goes on inside a person’s head, and attaching the outcome of a game to which team “wants to win more” is a futile exercise, I believe. Every team in the playoffs wants to win. If Glenn Davis misses that last-second shot does that mean the Magic had more desire in that game? But because he made the shot then we claim the Celtics ‘wanted to win the game more" and the Magic are “chokers”? All because of the outcome of one shot? I know the media loves this kind of discussion, but I don’t like trying to judge the attitude and character of players based on the result of a game.
Normally I would agree with you..
but I have no other explanation for the way the Lakers played last night. They beat Houston by 40 one night and then lose by double digits two nights later? They clearly are more talented. Call it lack of focus, loss of concentration, etc. but lack of "desire’ seems to fit the bill to me.
So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.
Yes, you’re right, the Lakers do seem to have trouble focusing on their games or bringing the right attitude every night. Without Yao, Houston is clearly the inferior team, and the fact that the Lakers lost twice to them by large margins implies that they might not have the right attitude. I’m not saying that attitude and focus don’t mean anything, because players are human and those variables are involved, but I think the media makes way too big a deal about those characteristics when judging the outcome of a game.
With the Celtics/Magic series, though, i see those as two pretty evenly matched teams and the series could go either way. To say that neither team has “desire” is silly; both teams are trying to win and the games are going back and fourth. The fact that Orlando had bad fourth quarters two games in a row doesn’t tell me anything about their attitudes and focus. Boston just played well those quarters while Orlando played poorly, just like the reverse happend earlier in those games.
I’m not saying that emotion and attitude isn’t involved in these games, because it obviously is, I’m just saying that we should be careful judging a player’s desire based on the results of a few games, and we shouldn’t try to guess what goes on inside a person’s head.
by Buckeye Brad on May 15, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
no
It’s not about that one shot. The Magic have blown 2 games with big leads in the 4th quarter. That’s why the Celtics were in position to win with that one shot which they happen to make.
And some teams do overachieve. Call it desire or good chemistry, whatever.
Right, but if he missed that one shot, nobody would be talking about the Magic almost blowing the lead in the fourth quarter. They would have won the series and everybody would be talking about how they had the “heart” to beat the defending champions.
And you’re right, I know some teams overachieve and other underachieve. Sometimes it may be lack of focus or whatever you want to call it, but most of the time it’s because the players played poorly for a few games. There is a lot of luck involved in these games, especially games that are close in the fourth quarter, but nobody ever writes or talks about that. If a team wins, it’s always because they have a “winning mentality” or they “wanted it more”, and if a team loses it’s because they lacked desire or focus or whatever. As I said, sportswriters and fans try to judge a player’s character and desire by their team’s wins and losses, and I think that’s a dangerous assumption to make.
by Buckeye Brad on May 15, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I’m with ya entirely here, Brad
I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck
by Turkmenbashi on May 15, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Bingo!
Dumb luck probably plays a big role when both teams are focused and playing up to their potential.
So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.
Right. Luck is involved in all sports but we can’t explain it, so we try to attribute things like heart and desire to outcomes that are based on a few plays. If Norwood field goal hadn’t gone wide right at the end of the Bills/Giants Super Bowl, how different would we view those Bills teams right now? And how different might we view Bill Parcells and those Giants teams? All because of one missed field goal by a kicker.
by Buckeye Brad on May 15, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
brad, you’ve got this one nailed. trying to measure something immeasurable is an exercise in futility…or just “journalism”. “orlando blew 2 4th quarter leads” can also be said as “boston made 2 unbelievable 4th quarter comebacks”. maybe boston’s defense went into hyperdrive, as opposed to orlando’s “want” downshifting. i have to figure that when you’re up double digits in the 4th quarter, you don’t start thinking “maybe we don’t REALLY want to win this game.”
the lakers thing is funny…they’re clearly out of sorts, which is wild for the best road team in the NBA. different from a lack of desire (i think you could argue kobe wants it as much as anyone in history), i believe they’ve simply been thrown off. the rockets have played unbelievably physical ball against a mostly-finesse team. playing on the road in the playoffs is brutal, and when you’re getting beat up physically, too, a lot can go wrong.
by DontCallMeJoey on May 15, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
for someone called “TheStats” this is decidedly non-stat-y
by DontCallMeJoey on May 15, 2009 11:48 AM CDT reply actions
As a long time rocket fan, i expected this one to be over already
Losing yao and going down 2-1 to the lakers seemed like a mountain they wouldn’t be able to climb. But they showed heart. And the lakers didn’t. they (lakers) keep saying that it was only a game and it doesnt matter, just go on to the next one. But the lakers need to realize that there might not be a next one. Go Rockets! Go Cavs. Lebron was deserving of the MVP.

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