Western Conference Finals Game 1 Open Thread

I'm praying the Lakers win this series....

…i would hate for the Magic to be lucky enough to get by the Cavs and then be unlucky enough to meet up with Magic Killer Chauncey Billips. I would rather lose to Lebron than Billips again!!!

"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"

by MagikFanatic on May 19, 2009 5:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

lol…he certainly is a magic killer

by ohc on May 19, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fear the beasts

All Cavs fan KNOW that the Cavs always play above their head in the playoffs. Lebron has them playing with their guts hanging out, which is how they went to game seven last year and to the Finals a few years back. Every year Charles Barkley had some excuse how we pushed so far. This year though, we have the best record in the NBA. So to play above our heads, as usual, means what? It means the Cavs in no more than 6! The Magic NEVER beat the Cavs in a best of seven post-season series.

The West? Man, that is hard to call. I think if Denver wins tonight, they win the series. If they don’t, they still have about a 40% chance.

by naveh on May 19, 2009 6:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I think Kobe

is due for a big game but then again maybe he just getting old. The Lakers are not going to win this series. Bron Bron vs Melo finals after the Cavs take out the Magic in 6.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 7:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I have the Nuggets getting 7. I think it’s fantastic value right now, as the Lakers are uneven at best in these playoffs. Hopefully, the Nuggets can be a little more focused than the Rockets were.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on May 19, 2009 7:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow, how lame does that Lakers crowd sound?

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 8:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

17-1 runs

don’t give you warm feeling about your team even if you win a series.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Indians up 3-1 in the sixth.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

that will not last

my early guess
7-5 loss the Bullpen will blow it up.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Aren’t you a ray of sunshine.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on May 19, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry but when you

know things you just have to be honest.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was even going to say it would be Wood

but I didn’t really feel that one. I love baseball and have a sense about it better then others. You just can’t do what I do. Statistics look to me for help.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t even know what to say.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on May 19, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dude… eerily close.

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You may not like me or understand what I mean or say

but trust me I know baseball and I don’t need Calculus or a Trigonometry to know what I know.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shoppach HR — now 5-1.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lakers hit some 3's to me this closer but it was an awful 1st quarter.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 8:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Lakers were seriously out-played by the Nuggets that first quarter

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on May 19, 2009 8:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Nuggets looking good so far

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Completely outplayed yet only down by six.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on May 19, 2009 8:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Lakers making the predictable comeback.

I dunno… is it just me, or is their crowd just not that loud?

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 8:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Don't take this the wrong

way but you must have the TV on mute or you are deaf. The crowd is loud for an LA crowd.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The crowd is loud for an LA crowd.

Well that’s my point. LA crowds aren’t very loud.

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They seem somewhat disinterested..

Talking on cell phones, finalizing drug deals, etc.

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on May 19, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

drug deals. Oxycotton and other prescription meds like Prozac.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just got 450 pills of oxycodone in the mail for my 3-month supply of pain medicine. How much do you think I could get for that on the street?

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't know

ask a Laker’s fan.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What????

I thought you were a Cavs fan.

by WaveOcean on May 19, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

$1 per mg seems to be the common price.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on May 19, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

with a name like Gahnki

it doesn’t surprise me you know that.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m using Yahoo answers as a reference so I really have no clue.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on May 19, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh ok

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sweet — that’s a cool $2250! I could use that. No wonder it’s so damn hard to get my prescription filled.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

maybe sell half of it and make some cake.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I also have about 90 pills of 10-mg methadone. I’m sure I could get some nice cash for those, too.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Those would apparently be $0.50 per mg.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on May 19, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dude…

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn, I could be a really rich guy. Of course, I’d be in immense pain all day so I don’t think the tradeoff is worth it.

It’s funny, I’ve been taking about 20-30 mg of oxycodone every day for about a year and a half, and I don’t feel anything (side effects, I mean). I can’t believe some people will pay so much for those pills.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not that I’m picking on you specifically Brad, but I’m not sure this is an appropriate tangent here

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, I suppose FtS does not want to be known as the “drug blog.”

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on May 19, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry, didn’t see the harm in this. I was just joking, of course — I’m not actually going to sell oxycodone for money. I just find it humorous how some people can find it so valuable because, like I said, I haven’t noticed any crazy side effects. But I guess that’s because I’m using it for a medical purpose. But I’ll stop.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh no dude, no worries. I wasn’t calling you out or anything. I just figure we should probably stop it there.

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lol....i'm so going to reference this...

….when anyone argues with me that Cavs fans are on drugs!! I’m sooo kidding as well, but for a minute there man i though you were serious..lol. I’m new here so you’ll have to forgive me..lol.

"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"

by MagikFanatic on May 20, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Alot of money......

and 25 years to life in jail

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on May 19, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lakers are making a run

but they will not be able to keep it up against the defensive pressure the Nuggets are applying.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 8:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

This is a good game so far...

the rebounding around the low blocks is intense, rough and tumble. Things will get “chippy” if this keeps up.

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on May 19, 2009 8:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Good the Lakers

are babies they can’t play physical for long.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I absolutely despise Jeff Van Gundy

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 8:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I love him

he is my style. I guess that is shocking.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not in the least bit

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why isn’t ESPN using Hubie Brown? He’s the best basketball analyst alive! I love listening to him do games.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I actually like the TNT crew better all around. Even Barkley.

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well Barkley doesn’t do games; I’m talking game analysts.

I like Marv Albert and Mike Fratello on TNT, but you could but any schmuck with Hubie Brown and I’d listen to that game.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brown know the game for

sure but he repeats the same things over and over and kissed the refs Aces.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just don’t like his voice. It’s very anti-announcerish.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on May 19, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like that about him

I don’t like guys that are to smooth. I like guys that know that game.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just don’t like anything he says. Ever.

“HAS VAREJAO STARTED FLOPPING YET?! LOLOLOL”

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey that is funny

I like Varejao but he does flop but if they call it then good for him and the Cavs.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

True. Varejao is admittedly one of those guys that I would hate if he wasn’t on my team.

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Varejao is really the only player i truly despise on the Cavs....

…but then again i am so against flopping i think it should be a technical foul for unsportsmanlike conduct or something..lol.!! It’s a shame…because everything else about that shows hustle and heart….but until he flops most everyone outside of Cleveland will just know him for his “flopping” skills. I really can’t remember him being a flopper in Orlando for some reason.

"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"

by MagikFanatic on May 20, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But how many of those are actually flops and how many are legitimate charges? He is very skilled at getting in front of an offensive player with his feet so he can take the charge, and that’s perfectly legal.

by Buckeye Brad on May 20, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There it is. Lakers lead.

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 9:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

This half proves

that the Nuggets can hang with the Lakers at their place and thats all we really needed to see because the Lakers are awful on the road.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 9:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

We wish

by WaveOcean on May 19, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Carmelo is outplaying Kobe so far.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on May 19, 2009 9:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Haha, wow. Hell of an end to the half there.

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by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 9:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

God..I hate LA

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on May 19, 2009 9:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Bah, save it for the finals

by WaveOcean on May 19, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dpn't worry, I have a large enough supply for both series. LOL

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by Juannieboy on May 19, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You don't need to

cause Lakers probably aren’t getting that far if they keep playing this way at home.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Denvers 57% on FTs (12/21) are killing them.

They should be up 6-8 points instead of down 1

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on May 19, 2009 9:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

John Barry is the worst

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by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 9:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That is something you and I can 100% agree on

He is a Lebron hater. Plain and simple him and Bill Walton don’t deserve jobs.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Absolutely agree

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Please don't get me started on him.

He must have a statue of Kobe he worships before bed every night

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on May 19, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

His kid plays for the Lakers...

….what do you expect???

"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"

by MagikFanatic on May 20, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Denver wasted a great start and a great offensive first half.

They’re playing way too sloppy basketball to beat LA.

by WaveOcean on May 19, 2009 9:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

They can't afford to give up points on technicals either.

Notice how Melo got a quick T and Kobe went off and wasn;t Teed up?

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on May 19, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I believe the Indians are quite possibly cursed.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on May 19, 2009 9:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

This is ephing ridiculous. Wood was the one guy I had faith in, and now he blows one!

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh. My. Gawd.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What happened? It’s sad, but I can’t bring myself to even listen anymore. I’d rather watch non-Cavs basketball.

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

5-2 lead in ninth. Wood gives up back to back home runs, doube, triple, and then allows the winning run to score on a sacrifice fly.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on May 19, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dude. You have got. to be. kidding me.

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This season is friggin’ unbelievable. Now even Wood can’t get anybody out. Lee pitched great again and has nothing to show for it.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seriously man, I’m done

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You can't build championship

teams on band aids and rubber bands.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m really starting to believe there’s something to this. Something about “The Plan” is broke.

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There is quite a lot wrong with this comment. It is not like the team’s role players are letting the rest down, it is the everyday players who are struggling as well. I am beginning to believe it is a psychological issue as this is affecting players who have been quite steady in the past.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on May 19, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Teams are build on superstars

if you don’t have enough you don’t have enough confidence. Thus you are going to play with baseballs ups and downs. Superstars change this and give you more even performances and confidence to overcome because you know if you don’t do it that the Big guy will. Baseball is in my opinion 110% mental in the majors.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Grady is a superstar. He’s just gotten off to a terrible start (along with many other Indians).

But there is no “one guy” that always comes through. Even the best players make outs 60% of the time. Baseball is a team sport. Superstars matter much less in baseball than in basketball.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Disagree big time

you can have all the Ecisteins and Pedoria’s in the world but if you don’t have the cache of confidence from superstars you are not winning.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pedroia is a great player, he’s nothing like Eckstein. Just because he’s small doesn’t mean he’s not a good hitter. Get your facts straight.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Grady and Lee are good players they are not superstars

as much as you want to believe that they are they aren’t. Lee is a very good player but he doesn’t come into the convo as one of the more dominate pitchers in the league year in and year out. Grady has a lot of physical tools and maybe be a 30 30 guy but he isn’t a superstar. Superstars hit .300 with those numbers and when they come up the opposing team is scared. Grady doesn’t scare me.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s not about what I believe. I didn’t say Lee was a superstar but Grady definately is. He’s always in the conversation as one of the best 10 players in baseball. The stats don’t lie, look them up (and I don’t mean dumb people stats like BA and RBI). And I’m sure that opposing pitchers are definately scared of Grady. Like i said, he’s had a bad start of this year but if you look back at his past 4-5 years he’s been one of the most valuable players in baseball. Last year he was second in the AL in VORP, and that’s as a great defensive CF. Numbers don’t lie.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Very few superstars

Superstars change the whole game from pitch one to the end. Grady doesn’t do that. I promise to drop this if you do. Can we agree to disagree.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

See, you’re just using cliches and spitting out nonsense that doesn’t make sense. Superstars change the whole game — like when they’re sitting on the bench waiting for other guys to hit? Or they’re standing in the field waiting for balls to hit to them? Again, this is baseball, not basketball. I honestly have no idea what you mean by “superstars change the whole game from pitch one to the end”. How does Pujols do this? He only bats once every nine hitters.

Grady is a great player, top 10 in the league. The numbers don’t lie. You can spew all the useless cliches and statements you want but it won’t change that fact.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess it is something you know or don't know

You clearly don’t so. I am done.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m sorry, I’m not trying to be mean, but you can’t just spew nonsensical statements. I really want to know, what do you mean by “changing a whole game from the first pitch to the end”? How does one do this in a baseball game?

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Since you are a football fan

I will ask did Vince Young do that in College?

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What does football have to do with baseball?

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You may look at baseball

as singular battles but really isn’t. Baseball fools spectators into believing that is it but when you play the game and understand focus and team spirit and confidence you realize that baseball is built on past performances and situations. One player affect another and another. Link of baseball as a chain of links. Sure one may break and others may not seem to be affected by a link that felt a shock but in reality it was. Human conditions don’t allow for singular events to not affect others. Like I affect your reaction and you mine. We are linked like it or not. Superstars change how others are pitched to and how their teammates perform. You look at baseball in a vacuum. I look at is a chain of events that a continuous and evolving.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eh, I don’t believe that. I don’t think “team spirit” and “confidence” matters much in baseball. That’s the kind of stuff people make up when the numbers don’t support their opinion. I don’t think what happens in one player’s at-bat affects another at-bat 4 or 5 players down the lineup. And I’d like to see some proof that this is true.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Done

you don’t know Real baseball then.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Haha. I don’t know “Real baseball”, huh? Well, I guess I can’t argue with that, can I? You win — stats don’t matter, that’s not “real baseball”.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I generally agree with you, Brad, but I gotta say I dunno about Grady being “top 10” anymore.

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well he certainly was at the beginning of the season. I know he’s in a really bad slump but six bad weeks just doesn’t change the value of a player. If he continues like this for the rest of the season then I’ll change my views, but his track record shows that he’s going to come out of his funk soon and start hitting again like he always has.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s not just the six weeks. There may be something to the “Grady is overrated” thing.

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well I think coming in to this season he was certainly a top 10 player. LIke I mentioned above, last season he was second in the AL in VORP (behind ARod) and he was also a gold glove CF. What more do you want?

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

True. I dunno. I’m done with baseball for now. I’m dead focused on the Cavs.

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Indians have some very good players. They aren’t built on “band-aids and rubber bands”. This sounds like a cleveland.com comment about Dolan’s cheap spending.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wood came in with a 3-run lead and gave up HR, HR, walk, triple, sac fly. Ballgame.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I must have missed the walk. I just saw the run score on the triple and thought it was a double by the previous batter.

Nevertheless, it is unbelievably bad.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on May 19, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

’Melo, wow

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by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 9:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Suck it, Kobe

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by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 9:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Kobe with the tech.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on May 19, 2009 9:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Prime example of why I hate Van Gundy… rambling on about the rules for a technical

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by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 9:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yea he sometimes goes off a deep end

but I think that comes from coaching because as a coach you have to do that to get your players attention sometimes. Problem with Van Gundy is that his style works for hard working players that care. If you have players that don’t care they will say F you coach I don’t care about you.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But if you have coaches who care then there is no need to motivate them.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on May 19, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

err, coaches = players.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on May 19, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Even good players need coaching

meaning a Vision and help seeing the field or court as you were. Good players take good Coaching. Bad players with bad attitude don’t take anything.

Baseball is God's sport! All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist

by E5 on May 19, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LeBron is a perfect example of the former

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah....comments like that are petty. Kobe was jawing all the way down the court

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on May 19, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kobe loves to lower his shoulder and drive into the defender

hardly ever gets called for it

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on May 19, 2009 9:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Nice Pick!

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on May 19, 2009 10:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Shannon Brown was absolutely leveled!

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on May 19, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nuggets

can win this game if they keep Kobe off the FT line.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Kobes just warming up! Only 23 shots thru 3 q

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on May 19, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kobe is one of the dirtiest players that no one identifies as being dirty

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by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Good evening all….Quite a game so far…

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on May 19, 2009 10:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

hey Big dog

how are you doing. You think Denver can close this out?

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It has been impressive….The fact they got out to a big lead, then lost it, but was able to recover….Impressive.

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on May 19, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep It's a good one

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on May 19, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Indeed

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, Anderson’s all over the place. Would kinda love to see this guy vs. our Anderson.

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Kobe has 5 techs now. If he gets another one

he will be automatically suspended for 1 game.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 19, 2009 10:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

They rescinded one earlier. Wouldn’t be surprised if they rescinded this one too….

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on May 19, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's lucky they took the last one back

because he’d be gone now if they hadn’t.

If they take this one back, they should be ashamed of themselves.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 19, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nevermind

it is 7.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 19, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Denver is playing with balls here

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by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Battle of poor shot selection now….

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on May 19, 2009 10:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

But in a battle of poor shot selection

JR Smith always wins.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 19, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

JR Smith is an overly aggressive shotter when he is on you don’t say a word and when he isn’t you look at him and think come ON MAN!!!!!!!!!!!

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There is something about that movie “The Hangover” that I really want to go see….

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on May 19, 2009 10:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Same here. I’m usually not for those kind of movies, but I think it’s because it includes somebody other than the usually suspects… no Will Ferrell, Ben Stiller, Vince Vaugh, Seth Rogen, etc.

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow. Birdman is showing something other than god awful tatoos

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by Juannieboy on May 19, 2009 10:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

If I was an NBA player, I'd be JR Smith

I’d be jacking up 3s and making spectacular dunks. Just because.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 19, 2009 10:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Sick game by Melo

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by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Bad shot.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 19, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Carmello is eating Kobe for lunch….Perhaps LeBron isn’t the only one from the Class of ‘03 to ’surpass’ the Mamba.

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on May 19, 2009 10:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ha. This whol LeBron vs. Kobe thing is getting so played out.

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yea I want

a fresh Melo vs Lebron. Lebron is clearly a better teammate then Kobe but is he as good as Melo offensively?

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Melo is probably capable of being a more prolific scorer, but he lacks the vision LeBron has and that sort of intangible ability to make his teammates better. I mean, look at this year. They’ve been good for a few years, but it took Billups to make them really good.

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by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yea I agree

I was thinking Lebron’s offensive game is getting better though. He is coming to the point that you can shut his teammates out but you can’t stop him.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep.

And no we’ve agreed on two things.

Apocalypse.

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

hey I am not really a bad guy. Honestly, I am just really passionate and have very strong opinions even if they may seem wrong to most.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nothing wrong with passion or strong opinions, as long as strong opinions don’t lapse into attacks.

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s not about being right or wrong, it’s the way you present your opinions.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Vovialgikc

sucks.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Where was the foul?

How was that clearly a foul?

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by Hardcore Legend on May 19, 2009 10:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

K-mart has a really flat shot....but its dropping

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on May 19, 2009 10:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Key to the 4th

Keep Kobe off the FT Line!

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Impossible.

He’s getting bailed out right now.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 19, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Battie

keep him off the line. Maybe his cache of being from Duke gave that to him but it looked like good clean defense to me.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bynum and Odom battle each other for rebound

Lakers get sad trombone.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 19, 2009 10:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Something tells me Mr. Big Shot is gonna need one

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on May 19, 2009 10:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Every free throw critical no matter the time

they count the same and the ones at the end won’t have as much pressure if you have those extra points early on.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 19, 2009 10:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Big shot there for Ariza.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 10:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ariza is a guy

if you leave Mack truck open he will make it but if you get with in 5 feet of him it will be a brick. Some teams don’t guard him out that far because Kobe anywhere is more of a threat then him. Also Ariza can’t drive so you can play off him and tempt him to take a outside J.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd take Denver more seriously

if they weren’t wearing Easter colors.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 19, 2009 10:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

So you take purple and yellow more seriously than that?

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess the Lakers colors have been around so long that we’re used to them.

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no credit

on the Block by Gasol. He didn’t even move.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Jesus, there it goes. Seems weird to me that I’m pulling for Chauncey to drop the dagger.

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

MR BIG SHOT!!!

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Eff

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by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Mn, these playoffs have been really good

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by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Where was “Mr. Clutch” there? I thought Kobe always made those shots in the last minute?

by Buckeye Brad on May 19, 2009 10:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

He'll make this one

and Denver will miss.

I’ve seen this show before.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 19, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ESPN cut that replay off just

as Gasol knocked the ball out of bounds.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 19, 2009 10:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Effeffeffeff come on Nuggets

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by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

J.R Smith or

“MR Big Shot is going to shot the ball and……….

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow, Ariza

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Do these LA morons know Kobe didn’t win the MVP?

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Maybe

the Nuggets could stop turning it over. Lakers didn’t play good defense the Nuggets took bad shots and didn’t protect the ball.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow, wow, wow.

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on May 19, 2009 10:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That should be a T

because you aren’t playing in a way that even give a team a chance to play.

Baseball is God's sport! All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist

by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Foul on Kobe by the way

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Glad I am not a Denver fan because......

Denver sucks! They let this game get away and they had it won.

So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.

by Juannieboy on May 19, 2009 10:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Go CAVS!

Can’t wait till tomorrow night.

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by E5 on May 19, 2009 10:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs