The Morning After: It's Just a Freight Train Comin' Your Way, Orlando
The dagger had been sunk. Orlando too the 95-93 lead. The Darlings would head back to Disneyworld up 2-0. After two of the most intense playoff battles they'd ever faced, Orlando saw the light at the end of the tunnel.
But one second remained.
The light seemed to be approaching at warp speed. They could taste it, and they began to savor the sweet decadence of beating the best team in the league twice on its home court.
But that was no light. It was a 6'8", 270lb freight train running straight to the gut of every Magic fan on the planet.
You have to understand; things like this don't happen for Cleveland. They happen to Cleveland. But what we Witnessed last night will go down as one of the greatest plays in the history of sports. And it's ours to savor forever.
Folks, if you haven't already, take a second to let this sink in. We blew a 23 point lead last night. We had no business winning after the way our defense broke down and our number two scorer failed in nearly every aspect of his offensive game, despite scoring 19.
We should not have won last night, but we did. Something has happened.
This was the most important, dramatic win for any Cleveland sports team in over 45 years. No, it doesn't win us a championship. Yes, there's still a long, very tough road ahead. But something has happened. We no longer have to cringe when we see replays of Jordan hitting "Th Shot." Somewhere, someone has lifted whatever "curse" or ghost there was haunting this city and its sports franchises.
No one should be carrying around the woebegone Cleveland sports fan mentality anymore. No one can ever, ever again say that LeBron James is not clutch. This one shot changed all of that.
Again, none of this is to say we should get ahead of ourselves. Neither of these first two games should have been this close, and now we have to go to their house. Mo needs to step up big-time. Z needs to get into his rhythm. Sasha needs to get more minutes. It is still going to be a hard series, the biggest test either team has faced all year. But if you believe in momentum at all, then you know we've got it on our side.
Orlando, you just plucked yourself a nice, fat no leaf clover. I'd stay away from the train tracks in the future, if I were you.
Our Horsemen ride on...
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Momentum?
I hope the Cavs can use this to their advantage but there are some disturbing trends so far in this series. I like the move to give Sasha more minutes, let’s hope this gets our team playing the way they did all year defensively! And YES as a Cleveland fan I am going to chalk this one up on the other side for once, but still a LONG way to go with Orlando
by CBJ824 on May 23, 2009 10:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Game 2
I am a big Cav’s fan was born and raised in Cleveland. That said, did the Cav’s deserve to win last night (NO) but I am glad they did. It doesn’t seem like Mike Brown or the Cav’s learned a lesson from the first game.
The magic are a 3 point team that is basically all they have beside Howard in the middle, I would rather see the Cav’s protect the 3 point line and force the magic into the paint, I would rather have them score a 2 rather than bomb us with 3’s. If you take away the magics 3 pointers what do they have? NOTHING.
So to the Coach and the players don’t worry about the paint worry about 3 point land.
by displaced on May 23, 2009 2:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If the Orlando Magic beats the Cavaliers and wins the NBA Finals,
I will seriously laugh out loud.
Orlando Magic is a mediocre team that only takes threes and depends on Dwight Howard to grab the misses if they do miss… which they rarely do because I assume at their practices, all they do is take three pointers.
Orlando Magic reminds me of a sniping camper in Counter Strike. All they do is snipe… the only skill they have. Should the Magic win this series? No… but by the looks of things, Cavaliers don’t look like a threat at the moment.
I’m going to watch Game 3 tomorrow and see if the Cavaliers just had two bad games. If they play bad in Game 3 and lose, they have no chance in making the NBA Finals, which will be a huge disappointment with all they have achieved this year.
Personally, I will laugh my ass off if Cavaliers don’t win this year.
by AlexC on May 23, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, the Cavs are a better 3-point shooting team that the Magic. The Cavs ranked 2nd in the NBA for 3-point shooting percentage and the Magic ranked 6th. Orlando has just been hot the first two games; they can’t keep that up.
Why don’t you try looking at facts when you make these comments.
by Buckeye Brad on May 23, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is strange phenomenon, and I’m not sure if it started with B Simmons, or if he’s just an example of it. But it seems like the Celtics’ fan reaction to their team being hurt this postseason is too get all whiny and bitter about how terrible their team ended up being, and then lashing out at the Magic, saying that they must be “mediocre” because they almost lost to their sad Boston squad. And now they’re here and there (this guy above is not the first) to say that Cavs must suck too, because they’re in a dogfight with the Magic.
The Magic aren’t mediocre, they are good. The 3 point shot isn’t a gimmick, it’s a part of their game. They are not bad, but were definitely inconsistent this year.
Give it rest, C fans. You’ve got a shiny trophy from last year, and plenty of legit excuses for this one. Quit your whining and trolling and enjoy or go watch your Sawx. It’s not your fault, it’s not your fault, it’s not your fault, it’s not your fault.
by dgcambridge on May 23, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would implore all cavs fans to PLEASE DON"T STOP direspecting us..!!!!
…. WE LOVE IT when we are disrespected and underestimated….Kharma is a biiotch!!:)
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 2:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Magic aren’t mediocre, they are good.
How is that disrespecting the Magic?
by Buckeye Brad on May 24, 2009 7:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't say YUO disrected the Magic....i was emploring all those that might to keep it up...
…it helps being the underdog all the time to the MIGHTY CAVS..lol…:)
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops...YOU..i mean
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excuse me but, if you laugh your ass off,
how will you be able to speak?
So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.
by Juannieboy on May 23, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh snap
I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck
by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2009 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Freight Train is the fact that you’ve lost home court advantage.
I thought the Magic or the Celtics were just a pit stop on the way to the Finals for the supreme Cavs.
I thought there would be no way that the Magic would possibly compete.
I think the freight train has already been at the station.
And it’s the fact that this is a series. And a scary one for the Cavs.
Anyone say anything different, and you’re kidding yourselves.
by darylglen on May 23, 2009 3:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I really get a kick out of ignorance
I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck
by Turkmenbashi on May 23, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not being ignorant... It's actually true.
So far, in this series, I think the Orlando Magic have been superior.
They were down 23 points in Game 2 and managed to get their head together and almost win the game. Even though the shot that Lebron made was amazing, they were LUCKY to pull out of this one.
Cleveland Cavs struggled against the Orlando Magic (man… even typing that makes me laugh) at their homecourt, now imagine how the Cavs will do at Orlando.
I got bets that Orlando beats Cleveland twice at their home.
I love Lebron! Don’t think I’m some sort of hater. But realistically, Orlando is playing better basketball (surprisingly) and I’ll be stunned if Cavaliers pull it off this series. They seem to struggle against the elite teams and you can see that in their record.
Cavs need to convince me today that they can really bring it on at Orlando. If Cleveland loses tonight, they have no chance… which will make this 2008-2009 Cleveland Cavaliers, the most disappointing team to lose against a mediocre team in the playoffs.
by AlexC on May 23, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Orlando is not a “mediocre” team. You’re selling them short. The Cavs are better, but Orlando is such a tough matchup for them which is why they’re giving them so much trouble. As Brian Windhorst said, the Magic team was selected as if you were going to draft a fantasy team built to beat the Cavs. They are built to take advantage of the weaknesses in the Cavs’ usually great defense.
by Buckeye Brad on May 23, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was being sarcastic there Brad..:)
..possibly paraphrasing many a Cavs fan lately…
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 2:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think so, since he wrote pretty much the same comment twice. He didn’t sound sarcastic.
by Buckeye Brad on May 24, 2009 7:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm....
…just wondering….how do words “sound” when you can only read them..???? I completely got the sarcasm.
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what I meant, don’t take the words so literally. His words didn’t seem sarcastic to me — is that better?
Like I said, read what he wrote above. Was that also sarcastic?
by Buckeye Brad on May 24, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
" So far iun this series, i think the Orlando MAgic have been superior"
….perhaps it is you who should read the whole thing….you can’t make this statement and then seriously say the Magic are a mediocre team…it was sarcasm my friend….take it from someone who exudes sarcasm..:) I’ll end my argument on this topic here.
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there’s no way this guy was being sarcastic. zero chance. you’re just wrong.
by DontCallMeJoey on May 24, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhmmm..ok...if you say soooo..lol
…now was that sarcasm??? Just testing your sarcasm detector….
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, we enjoyed talking with you initially but now you’re starting to act like those other idiots that came here looking to pick fights. Please stop doing that.
by Buckeye Brad on May 24, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I fail to see how i'm an "idiot" just because i don't agree...
..i’m not the one making comments like " zero chance. you’re just wrong"..lol. I know it would be sacraledge for you to chastise a Cavs fan….so i’ll just leave it at that!
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just curious...
…If the Magic are designed perfectly to take advantage in the Cavs defensive weaknesses…how then are the Cavs better??
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 2:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cavs are the better team overall and that was proven during the regular season. You can’t deny that, it’s a fact. But Orlando matches up well against Cleveland. That happens all the time in the NBA — teams with worse records beat teams with better records in the playoffs because they’re a bad matchup for them.
by Buckeye Brad on May 24, 2009 7:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would submit this to you...
…the Magic only had a worse record than the Cavs because 1) they lost their All-Star point guard Jameer Nelson and 2) as any Magic fan can tell you…they tend to lose focus against bad teams. So i wouldn’t say the cavs are a more talented or better team…just more focused perhaps….and if your counting the regular season…the Magic are 3-2 vs the Cavs with 2 easy victory at home and 1 win and 2 last second losses at the “vaunted” “Q”
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, let me get this straight — Orlando is a better team than Cleveland because they only lose against bad teams? But isn’t that a discredit against them?
I’m talking about the whole regular season, not a few games. The Cavs won 7 more games than the Magic and their point differntial was better. They were the better team. They dealt with injuries, also, for a portion of the season.
If you think the Magic is better than the Cavs because they beat them 2 out of 3 times in the regular season, than the Nuggets must be better than the Magic because they beat them twice. But the Cavs beat the Nuggets twice, so that means they’re better than the Nuggets. So the Cavs are better than the Nuggets who are better than the Magic who are better than the Cavs — how is that possible?
I said Orlando matches up well with the Cavs and that’s true. They are a very good team but they’re not better than the Cavs. Every objective measure will show you that the Cavs are better. You can’t just cherry-pick a few games to prove your point. Orlando could certainly beat us this series, and I’m not taking anything away from them because they’re a good team, but the Cavs are better overall. I don’t know how you can possibly argue against that. I’m not putting down your team, I’m just stating facts.
by Buckeye Brad on May 24, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regular season doesn't win you champioships now does it..??
..i will say that overall from top to bottom the Magic are a more talented team…while the Cavs are a more focused ..and perhaps a better coached team….and no i don’t expect you to agree they are more talented…but as we have seen..it takes more the “ONE”…to beat “5”.
Lucky for us the Cavs aren’t one of those bad teams….lol….otherwise we would probably lose..:)
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cavs are NOT a one-player team. It really, really bugs me when people say that. You’re ignoring the contributions of Mo, Delonte, Z, Andy, etc. If you’re going to keep saying that then you’re losing your credibilty. I don’t mind talking basketball with you, but saying things like that is just trying to start fights.
by Buckeye Brad on May 24, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once again...your editing my comments....
…the EXACT phrase i used WAS…"but as we’ve seen it takes more than “ONE”…to beat 5" . The meaning of this is that obviously..Lebron can’t do it by himself…..as would be supported by any Cavs fan with any kind of basketball IQ…and no…that was not directed at you specifically…..before you jump on that wagon going the wrong way.:) As for starting “fights”?? Just because i have an alternate point of view doesn’t mean i want to start a “fight”…thats childish. And if your going to editorialize any more of my comments rather than quoting them verbatum….i would suggest you merely save the time and “fight” with yourself…because when you change what i say to fit your own ideas…that’s what your doing..:)
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you going to tell me next that the Magic taking the season series from the cavs 2-1...
…is not objective next??? lol . Come on!!:)
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course its objective…the point is that it’s borderline statistically insignificant. as well, the cavs-magic regular season series, i would say, was incomplete, given that the magic hosted 2 games and the cavs only got one at home. it’s hard to draw any meaningful conclusions from such.
by DontCallMeJoey on May 24, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not as much as us splitting with tha Cavs on their homecourt....
…i agree with you there..:)
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by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
...in the playoffs i mean of course....:)
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by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, that’s certainly more relevant than 3 regular season games.
by DontCallMeJoey on May 24, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, you’re missing the point entirely. If you know anything about statistics then you’d know small samples are virtually meangingless. I’m talking about the full season against all the teams. The Cavs were better.
And what about your point that the Magic lost a lot of games to bad teams? Great teams don’t lose games to bad teams. I find it humorous that you keep saying the Magic won 2 of 3 against the Cavs (ignoring that they hosted two of those, by the way) as proof that they’re better, and then just say the Magic have the worse record because they lost a lot of games to bad teams as if that doesn’t mean anything. Of course it does!
The Cavs won 7 more games. Their point differential was about 3 points per game better. They’re the better TEAM — not just LeBron, the better TEAM. Now, they could lose this series to Orlando because Orlando is also a very good team and anything can happen over the course of seven games. But that doesn’t mean that Orlando is the better team. You cannot make judgements based on small samples of data — that’s basic statistics.
by Buckeye Brad on May 24, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
...Oh and maybe you could check your facts....Magic split with Denver...
……they demolished the Nuggets on the road Jan.17, the night after beating the Lakers on the road, and they lost at home 82-73 on Feb. 11, 7 days after losing Jameer…..with A. Johnson and Ty Lue as our point guards…. guys who play a COMBINED 10 minutes a game now…lol…perhaps you were thinking of some other team that lost twice to the Nuggets??
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I was wrong about that. The point still remains, though — I could find another team that would fit that example.
In the NBA, any team can beat another team over one or two games. That doesn’t mean they’re the better team.
by Buckeye Brad on May 24, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Charlotte beat swept the Lakers this year i believe, and i think the pistons swept the magic. there are your matchup problems magikfanatic. because im sure you dont think the pistons are better than your magic
by hoffmeister on May 24, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can't beat them....thats all i know..lol
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by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
an awful lot of people are pretty worked up over how doomed the cavs are in this series after blowing 16 and 23 point leads in the first 2 games to lose and then win by a mere point. hollinger has suggested it’s time for the cavs to “go back to the drawing board”…barkley thinks the cavs are cooked…our own brian windhorst sees the rest of the series as truly troublesome for the cavs.
look, i’m not saying the magic aren’t very good. they are. they play very good defense, capitalize on their opportunities on offense, and also match up quite well with the cavs (or anyone, for that matter) from a personnel perspective.
but lost in all this hubbub seems to be the fact that the cavs so out-executed the magic in the first half of each of the games as to build those monster leads. granted, they coughed them up, but it’s not as though the talent level in the series is so one-sided.
something i’d like to point out: mo williams is shooting 32.5% in this series, he shot 46.7% in the regular season; delonte west is shooting 40% in this series, his regular season saw him shoot 45.7%; Z is shooting 41.7% in this series, he knocked ‘em down at a 47.2% rate this year. what’s more, mo is popping 3’s at 21% in the ECF, while he put down 43.6% of his 3’s in the reg season; west is hitting 33% of his 3’s in the first 2 games, while having hit 39% during regular play. if these 3 were simply shooting at their season averages, we would have hit 8 more FGs than we have so far, 4 3’s and 4 2’s, which would have increased our scoring by a total of 20 points. as i’ve said, the magic is playing great d, but i don’t believe it to be so great as to knock these 3 so substantially off of their games.
my point is this: if/when the rest of the cavs show up, those 23 point leads don’t deteriorate in the same fashion as they have to this point. it’s not as though we’ve played our absolute best ball and have 2 1-point games to show for it. i don’t think we need to be quite as panicked as many suggest.
by DontCallMeJoey on May 24, 2009 3:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually the Cavs have anly dominated the 1st quarter of each game...not the 1st half....
…hate to put a damper on your brilliant rant…but you might want to ask Ray Allen and the Boston Celtics about why they sustained below average shooting percentages ALL SERIES against the Magic!! I love how people say the regular season doesn’t matter (Magic 2-1 over Cavs), and then they point to regular season percentages like they do. But even by your flawed theory, according to you Lebron will come falling back to earth and average ….what was it?? 28ppg?? It is what it is people….start living in the now…not the past.. I don’t take any comfort that the Magic beat the Cavs in the season series except for the fact i know they aren’t afraid of the Cavs( or any team for that matter except the Pistons!) . You shouldn’t take any consolation that the Cavs are better shooters unless this turns into an 82 game series that incluse every other team the Cavs faced. It just isn’t going to happen!!
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, you can call it whatever you like, but 16- and 12-point first half leads are pretty convincing. the cavs have owned the first half…you try to parse it in whatever way makes you feel better.
i did a little looking at the celtics shooters shooting percentages. mo, delonte and z are shooters, let’s be real about it, so i thought it would be interesting, in light of your ill-informed statement above, to look at the performance of the celtics shooters. i’ve included ray allen, paul pierce, eddie house and brian scalabrine (yes, brian scalabrine…whos mere presence on the floor for over 20 mpg makes the magic’s 7 game struggle with the c’s questionable). feel free to disagree with this list, but it appears to me that those are the guys who pull from outside on the c’s.
allen — magic series: 34.4% fg, 19% 3’s; reg season: 48% fg, 41% 3’s. pierce — magic series: 43.3% fg, 33.3% 3’s; regular season: 45.7% fg, 39.1% 3’s. house — magic series: 61.9% fg, 60% 3’s; regular season: 44.5% fg, 44.4% 3’s. scalabrine — 42.4% fg, 42.1% 3s; regular season: 42.1% fg, 39.3% 3’s. total numbers for all 4 — magic series: 43% fg, 32.9% 3’s; regular season: 45.1% regular season, 40.9% 3’s. over 7 games, which clearly is a larger sample size than the current series, and thus more representative of what we can expect as this series goes longer, the 4 c’s shooters made fg’s at 95.4% of their regular season numbers, while they knocked down 3’s at 80.6% of the regular season stats. so far in the ECF, the 3 cavs shooters mentioned above are operating at 79.3% of their regular season fg numbers, and 64.5% of 3-point figures. all of this is a very long way of saying, we should expect a meaningful improvement from the cavs’ shooters, even in the event of less success from LeBron, that would make up for an awful lot of the shortcomings we’ve seen so far from the cavs in the second halves.
as well, you present a straw man argument w/ LeBron’s 28ppg from the regular season. that is completely and utterly beside the point. the point i’m making is specific to shooting . LeBron will take more shots in the playoffs than he did in the reg season, so the applicable stat for which he may “come crashing back to earth” is fg, not ppg. you can’t expect his point production to retrace by 14 points merely b/c that’s what his reg season average was. try to do a little critical thinking yourself.
finally, your continued misunderstanding of the points that have been made here regarding the relevance of the regular season can only charitably be called willful ignorance. 3 games of data from an 82-game season (your closely held 2-1 magic record over the cavs in the reg season) is literally borderline statistically insignificant. on the other hand, 82 games worth of data (as in, regular season shooting %) is highly relevant, as it gives us a robust sampling of what we should expect from players over longer stretches of basketball. hope this helps you keep up.
by DontCallMeJoey on May 24, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As you so aptly in not longwindedly put it....
….whatever makes you feel better…lol!! The only REAL pertinent FACT is that the Magic are going home after stealing HCA from that UNSTOPPABLE 66-16 Cavs team..:)
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, stop acting like that. You’re on a Cavs blog. We all respect the Magic and think they’re a great team. Why are you coming here and trying to tell us that the Cavs aren’t as good as your team? What are you trying to prove? Let’s just watch the games and stop this dumb stuff. Nobody here said the Cavs were “unstoppable” — we all know they could lose to Orlando.
by Buckeye Brad on May 24, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brick Wall #1
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, the stealing of HCA is not, as it happens, a FACT. the cavs had, have, and will have the home court advantage in this series: more games were scheduled to be played in cleveland for this series than in orlando. that is the definition of home court advantage. the only fact is that this series is tied at 1.
if i was long winded it’s b/c you manage to cram a lot of silly things into relatively short posts, and i wanted to actually apply logic and numbers to the refutation of your inanities. as brad says, no one is claiming the invincibility of the cavs. rather on a CAVS BLOG we are trying to assess the cases in which the outlook remains positive for the cavs…and i think there are many of those.
by DontCallMeJoey on May 24, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brick Wall #2
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, you’re missing the point — 3 games out of 82 in the regular season don’t matter. But shooting percentages over all 82 games do matter — that’s a better indicator of their true ability.
If you’re going to keep posting stuff like this on here please go learn some basic statistics. Sample sizes matter. Something happening over 82 games is a much more meaningful that something that happens over 2 or 3 games. If you can’t realize that then please stop wasting our time.
by Buckeye Brad on May 24, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As for wasting your time....i assume you have free will....use your time as you wish...
….but as for continuing this…..i’ve come to the conclusion that you and Joey are NEVER wrong when it comes to the Cavs…..enjoy the game tonight..:)
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey man, can’t we all just get along?
I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck
by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol..i try Turk...
…but apparently my opposing point of view is making it difficult..:)
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We don’t mind opposing points of view. I don’t like the way you’re cherry-picking your stats to try proving your point and ignoring our responses back to you.
You’re on a Cavs blog and it seems like your only goal here is to put down our team. Why come here just to tell us that our team isn’t as good as your team? I wouldn’t go to a Magic blog just to put down your team. If you want to discuss the series that’s great, but just going back and forth like this is silly. You think your team is better, we think our team is better. We’ll watch the series and find out. Let’s move on.
by Buckeye Brad on May 24, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Turk...got a question that maybe you can answer....
…when was this Cavs blog formed…do you know the date..??
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just wondering because these Blogs all seem so new...
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by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure actually, I think it’s about a year old
I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck
by Turkmenbashi on May 24, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, now you’re ignoring all my points. I never said I’m always right about the Cavs (or anything else), I’m just point out how you’re making errors with your use of stats and cherry-picking them to prove your point.
The fact that you ignored that completely just shows that you’re not interested in a real basketball discussion.
by Buckeye Brad on May 24, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blowing leads vs. giving up leads
DontCallMeJoey makes a great point. While many have expressed dismay at the Cavaliers blowing big leads, they seem to completely dismiss the fact that they built those huge leads. The consensus seems to be that the Magic are just toying with the Cavs and can take over the game at will. This is just not true.
In Game 1 the Magic tied the game with 7 minutes remaining in the 4th. The Cavs played a below par 7 minutes butl had managed to regain the lead with 44 seconds to play. Orlando had 7 minutes to DOMINATE the Cavs and put them away. They couldn’t do it. On the last posession, Lebron made a great pass to an open Delonte West who put up a brick
In Game 2 the Magic.took the lead with 10 minutes remaining. Again, the supposedly DOMINANT Magic couldn’t put the Cavs away and with 2:30 remaining the Cavs had a 5 point lead. Two poor offensive posessions allowed the Magic to get back into the game.
In the final analysis, both teams have had offensive surges and defensive breakdowns. In the end, they’ve played tight when the game was on the line. Still, it’s the Magic that have been shooting well above their season averages, and the Cavs who’ve (except for LeBron) who’ve been shooting well below season averages. If things remain, the series is a tossup.
If “Le Shot” can kick the Cavs back to playing at the top of their game, the Cavs will win with 4 straight victories.
by crescen7 on May 24, 2009 7:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry...correction to that...Magic have out scored the Cavs in only 5 of 8 quarters
….Mo Williams miracle 3 at the half of game 1 saved that quarter for the Cavs 30-29
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by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats a BIG 'IF" my friend....
…i believe those who say the Magic dominated are probably looking at the 6 out 8 quarters they outscored the Cavs in their own building….and it’s quite natural for teams that come back from big deficits to need a breather when they’ve finally caught up.:)
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 12:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Correcting myslef again on the 6 of 8 quarters they outscored the Cavs...it was 5 of 8...
…it was 5 of 8…i had mentally blocked Mo’s miracle 3 at halftime from memory..lol.:) Sorry
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by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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