Facts Vs. Reality
by tabler84 on May 28, 2009 10:32 AM CDT
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Let's get real about some things. Moreover, let's talk about actual facts, instead of inventing them. Facts do not oppose reality if we're thinking clearly.
First, there are some awesome Magic fans contributing here; they're courteous, passionate, and observant. It's cool to see, and if the Magic finish us off, we'll wish them well.
Second, there are rude, ignorant Magic fans polluting these boards. Sadly, some Cleveland fans have jumped on board with their "arguments." So the next time someone says something like the following, you'll know how to respond.
"The Magic just have more weapons than the Cavs and we saw it in game four."
Game four was one of the biggest outliers we could have possibly seen, for two main reasons: 3-point shooting and Rafer Alston. Game four did not demonstrate that the Magic is a better team; it demonstrated that occasionally a monkey can write Shakespeare.
Start with Alston. You probably know that he's not an all-star. But did you know that, in the past decade, he's one of the five worst shooters in the league with several hundred starts?
That's right. He's one of the *worst shooters in all of basketball.* He's not a "streak shooter," as some have said. Unless you count the streaks of paint he chips off the front and back iron. Not only that, but he's unsavvy enough on offense to take one shot every three minutes -- a hefty ratio for a dreadful shooter.
Fun fact: One of the closest statistical comparisons to Alston comes in the form of former Cav Larry Hughes. Cavs fans, did anyone think of Larry Hughes as a weapon? A streak shooter? An outside threat?
Alston's numbers:
Career: 38.6% FG, 35.4% 3P, 72.9% FT
2009 Playoffs, pre-Cavs: 38.6% FG, 33.3% 3P, 66.7% FT
This series: 44.6% FG, 43.4% 3P, 100% FT
This is THE GUY you want taking a ton of shots. Luckily, he's obliging. Sadly for us, he's caught the streak of his life. This does not mean the Magic have better weapons.
"The Cavs' defense is obviously over-rated. Just look at this series!"
We've already discussed the outlier that is Alston. Now let's talk about Dwight Howard's free throws, which have gotten a lot of attention.
Season: 59.4%
Series vs. Boston: 54.3%
Series vs. Cleveland: 71.5%
For a guy averaging 10 free throws per game, that's a dramatic improvement. But would it have really made a difference?
Probably. In game three, which was a two-possession game inside the last two minutes, Howard would have connected on 3 fewer points if he simply matched his season average. In game four - and we all know how tight that was - he would have scored 2 fewer.
Now, how about Rashard Lewis, hottest shooter alive?
Season FG: 43.9%
Series FG: 55.5%
Season 3P: 39.7%
Series 3P: 57.8%
After game one it was clear we had to make adjustments. Did they work?
Game 2: 6-15 FGs
Game 3: 5-8 FGs
Game 4: 5-9 FGs
We smothered Lewis in game two with excellent rotational defense. Then something extraordinary happened: Take a look at his field goal attempts in games three and four.
Do you know the last time this season that Lewis played at least 40 minutes in a game and attempted fewer than 10 shots? Never. It did not happen.
Do you know the last time this season that Lewis attempted fewer than 10 shots in a "full" game? March 15th.
If you want to say that Mike Brown didn't make adjustments, I will have a hard time believing you.
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Nice post, tabs, good look at the numbers. I honestly didn’trealize how bad Alston was usually.
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i knew lewis had been somewhat bottled up, but i didn’t realize the extent.
by DontCallMeJoey on May 28, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Any TRUE Magic fan can tell you how bad Alston's shooting was this year..
…in fact if i’m not mistaken his Orlando numbers where worse than his Houston numbers even!! Most couldn’t believe he was shooting that well even WITH wide open look….i suspect he’ll return to his normal 13-15 points for game 5. It’s going to be a tough one!!
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's just say Jameer Nelson isn't shaking in his boots..lol!!
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
You’re not going to believe this, but his FG% was much better with Orlando than Houston this season (41% vs. 37%).
You sure..??? Lol..he must have gotten better after being so dicusted i stopped looking at his numbers....lol
…what about the 3 pt %…wasn’t lower tho? That’s actually what i was referring to…
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
this is awesome. i, too, did not realize how bad alston’s shooting numbers are.
let me get something straight, though, is it not fact that i think the magic are a bunch of jerks and stan van gundy wears terrible gear? THAT is a fact, right?
by DontCallMeJoey on May 28, 2009 10:57 AM CDT reply actions
Ah comon. I’ve only posted here twice so far, but I’m trying to be as courteous as possible. It saddens me to see my fellow Magic fans flame and troll, but I really hope you guys won’t see that as a norm for Magic fans. SVG does have a very uh…. special taste for clothing though. lol
Ha, he’s joking. I think most people here like SVG.
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by Turkmenbashi on May 28, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I can't believe
How much the Orlando fans feel like they’re being disrespected in this series. Why argue the points here?
You’ve got the 3-1 lead. That speaks for itself. Orlando doesn’t need to be defended right now.
Possession games in playoff series’ should not be debated on what could’ve been or which team is better. It’s very obvious that both teams are pretty even. If anything Cleveland has dominated more games before letting the leads slip away.
It’s also unfair to say they don’t play defense when you have a team that can decimate a large lead with three possesions by way of three point shots.
I don’t want to take away from what Orlando has been able to do but I also don’t think we need to be in this blog trying to convince Cavalier fans that we’re the better team. Like both sides have said, the series could be in favor of any team right now.
Go Rockets.
You’ve got the 3-1 lead. That speaks for itself. Orlando doesn’t need to be defended right now.
Good point. No one here is disrespecting the Magic. It’s a misperception, at best.
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by Turkmenbashi on May 28, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Right. All we’re doing is defending the Cavs from a constant barrage of attacks from Magic fans (on a Cavs fans blog, no less). Not a single Cavs fan here has denegrated the Magic at all.
by Buckeye Brad on May 28, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
My purpose is also to point out to the (many) idiot Cavs fans that Mike Brown is not necessarily an idiot and we’re not getting “dominated.”
Eh, I would watch how we throw around “idiot,” especially regarding other Cavs fans. Misguided, perhaps.
These are trying times.
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by Turkmenbashi on May 28, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Let’s not be too charitable. There are a fair number of idiot fans in our good city. They are the same ones spending a rain delay wondering why Triv isn’t President and why Ben Francisco isn’t batting second and Victor fifth.
I become an expert simply by doing something.
Yeah, but what good does it do for us to call them idiots? Every city has idiot fans. You mention that these people wouldn’t say things like this in person or at a bar, and likewise I doubt we’d be running around calling people idiots to their face.
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by Turkmenbashi on May 28, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m generally just aggravated with the level of discourse at times. Fair enough?
I become an expert simply by doing something.
Completely fair. Just remember, all us Cavs fans, rational or not, sane or insane, we’re still in it together.
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by Turkmenbashi on May 28, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
The Magic have plenty of idiot fans...as you have seen..:(
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
ME!!!!!!!!!!
but you try not being an idiot with only 1 team out of 4 major sports in the running each year
20 years is a long time…
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by I blocked Patrick Chewing on May 28, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey man, not as long as 45!
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by Turkmenbashi on May 28, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I did not think about that more teams means more disapointment.
But I wish I could know whats like to have a TRUE horse in the NFL race.
F phins jax and Bruce the buckeye
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by I blocked Patrick Chewing on May 28, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
oops meant the annoying one eyes orange buccaneer not buckeye
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by I blocked Patrick Chewing on May 28, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
But I wish I could know whats like to have a TRUE horse in the NFL race.
Me too. At least you guys have been to a Super Bowl recently.
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by Turkmenbashi on May 28, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
He's got a point there PC....
…it’s not like Magic fans can trump Cavs or Cleveland fans in general on disappointment or anything..lol
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Lol....i have the luxury of being able to call someone an idiot if i need to....
…but i usually never do…..:)
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Simply put
Just to refute some of your points. I don’t mean to be disrespectful but i would like to voice out some opinions:
“The Magic just have more weapons than the Cavs and we saw it in game four.”
You focused on Rafer Alston in this point that you forgot about Hedo and Shard and MP as well as Lee and Gortat. In this series, the Magic has shown that the other players besides Dwight Howard have stepped their game up.
Alston had a “lucky streak” in Game 4. But Rashard delivered in game 1 and regulation of game 4. Hedo hit the shot in game 2 to lead the game before LBJ hit his three. MP has done a good job defending LBJ in crucial moments of the game. Gortat has stepped in when Howard is in foul trouble. Lee has done a good defensive job on Mo and West.
In terms of “weapons” the Magic have had their guys execute better than the other Cavs. James has been amazing but when it comes down to crunch time, it has been all LBJ. the Magic have other options that have delivered.
“The Cavs’ defense is obviously over-rated. Just look at this series!”
The Cavs defense in the regular season has been spectacular. I mean they were a lock down team THEN. But in this series, though they have made the Magic bleed for their points, these Orlando Boys have found holes in the Cavs D especially on the Hedo pick and roll. They have had a difficult time when Hedo does his pick and roll because he is a triple threat to pass, shoot or drive. This scrambles the Cav’s D leaving the Magic shooters open.
The Cavs bigmen are also at odds with how to contain Howard with all the 4 shooters ready to pull the trigger. I think Varejao has not faced a center in this post season as strong as Dwight (Horford and Haslem / O’Neal). Anderson Varejao is good defensively knowing when to set his feet and hold his position. He has good balance. But Dwight is just too massive and fast and strong for Varejao.
I am not downplaying the Cavs D which is still strong. But in my opinion, the Magic have used their strengths well against the Cavs and have been the more proactive team in this series.
Again, I am not stating facts, these are just my opinions.
Im not sure why anyone is saying anything at this point.. the series isn’t over. Theres no reason for anyone to be cocky.. especially fans. I think its crappy when one team’s fans rub another team’s fans faces in it. You know how that would feel if you were on the losing end of it.
Fact is – magic fans are probably mostly just pissed because nobody even gave them a chance at this series. The fact that they made it to the conference finals after beating the Celtics in game 7 in boston – even WITHOUG KG is pretty astounding. The Celts had KG out for half the year, but they still managed 60 wins. The fans are probably annoyed at the pre series notion that there was a road paved with gold for the cavs to make it to the finals. As cavs fans, if your team was given that treatment , how you would react.. so whatever.. everyone just watch the games, and have fun.. The best team WILL win this series.
“Nobody even game them a chance.” As in, like, large numbers of analysts? Paid reporters? That counts as nobody? How about Cleveland fans who were rooting for Boston? That doesn’t count either?
The notion that “nobody gave the Magic a chance” is beyond tired. It’s not even close to true.
Nobody downplayed the Magic.
A lot of the media and other fans were just high on the dominance of the Cavs. They played up the Cavs.
It was just that everyone assumed the Cavs would march on into the Finals. The Magic being up 3-1 is a suprise to many, I bet even to Cavs fans.
But then again media hype does not win games.
A lot of the media and other fans were just high on the dominance of the Cavs. They played up the Cavs.
I kind of agree that this was the case
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by Turkmenbashi on May 28, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I had a lot of friends at work (here in North Carolina) tell me “Oh you guys are just going to sweep through the finals.” It was excruciating, because I could see the matchup issues we might have with Orlando or LA.
Granted, I didn’t think we’d be in this situation, but there was definitely some over-hyping going on.
I feel ya there. Everyone at work was like, “Oh, you got it — easy.”
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by Turkmenbashi on May 28, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course this is the case. Have we all gone nuts? The Cavs had the league’s best record and the MVP. And they historically marched through two rounds. Why wouldn’t the media play up the dominance of the Cavs?
It’s just that it’s wildly untrue to say nobody gave the Magic a chance. You can talk about one team’s dominant season while also giving another team their due, which is usually what happened when media and blogs covered this series.
I mean incessant puppt commercials can annoy anyone...lol
….talk about disrespecting Jim Henson….that Kobe puppet does even look like him…if i were him i’d sue!! lol
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't really understand this....
are you saying analysts DID give them a chance or DIDN’T…because i don’t remember many giving the Magic a chance…
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
barkley made a pretty prominent orlando prediction
by DontCallMeJoey on May 28, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow...one guy...and who in the media takes barkley seriouslty...lol.. maybe the will now...
…my point was the majority gave Orlando very little chance before the series started…
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Look...i'm not one of the ones who cares that Orlando...wasn't picked..i was glad...more fuel for the fire...
…that being said….Like who for instance?? Instead of just saying “get over it”, which is rude by the way…..try giving more than one example.
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Totallly NOT true...!!!
Lol…but i suspect that wasn’t your point..?:)
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
He was saying i should go there if i didn't want to be insulted i think...i could be wrong..lol
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
To be perfectly honest...i think i'm about to get booted from 3QC......
…i offended one of the MOD’s after i took him to task on his statement
“Need a true strong forward? The Magic have one, his name is Hedo Turkoglu.
.. the team’s starting lineup is perfect and doesn’t need to be tweaked."
Exact words…i kid you not…i was flabbergasted. Then i was chastised to disagreeing with a MOD…..uhm ok. Now you know why i am here a lot…much more rational thought…..even if it is slightly biased the Cavs way at times . I can live with that more than i can with complete idiocy.
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
All I'm saying
Analysts acknowledged that the Magic would be a tougher test for Lebron. But in saying so, assumed that Lebron and the Cavs would continue to win until the Finals.
Now the series isn’t over but the fact that the Magic are up 3-1 and people are surprised, doesn’t this show how much the Cavs’ were expected to be up in this series.
it demonstrated that occasionally a monkey can write Shakespeare.
WOW.
Whats Mo WIlliams Demonstrate?
Monekys do IN FACT eat their own Shit?
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by I blocked Patrick Chewing on May 28, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions
lol You're a good sport, Nice piece by the way...
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by I blocked Patrick Chewing on May 28, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, it’s true. Mo took this team to a new level this season, but during the playoffs, Larry Hughes murdered him and wrapped himself in Mo’s skin. That’s all I can figure.
HA!
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by Turkmenbashi on May 28, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats pretty funny....
..i guess that answers my above question as to what the heck happen to mo Williams?? lol
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
This has to be it. The awful shot selection, inability to set his feet, poor decisions on the break… It all reeks of Larry Hughes. I think you are on to something.
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Did Larry Hughes run his mouth too..?? Lol...cuz that would be the clincher i think..:)
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
And I KNOW Hollinger ripped this off
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by I blocked Patrick Chewing on May 28, 2009 3:14 PM CDT reply actions
READ THIS FERRY
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by Turkmenbashi on May 28, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I make my living on being legit
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by Turkmenbashi on May 28, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Read what Turk..?? there was no link...
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha, sorry man, it’s an inside joke we had over on the Indians site. Basically, we’re playing off the idea that a team’s GM would never want to read the crazy stuff that is posted on the internet.
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by Turkmenbashi on May 28, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Lol..oh..ok...how true though...they would all be jumping off ledges if they were...lol
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, a guy on the Indians site wrote a long rant about the team then wrote at the bottom “READ THIS SHAPIRO”, which was just classic.
by Buckeye Brad on May 28, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I assume Shapiro is/was the Indiains GM?? lol
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Believe me they read
FTS is the number 1 site I go to when I need REAL peoples views, not employer driven drivel.
its updated hourly and usually spot on.
Granted Hollinger comes and finds links to other reporters stuff, but who is going to challenge him for ripping off a FAN POST?
Your attitude is his 1st defense, Why would I JOHN HOLLINGER need to rip off a blog site?
Because as smart as you may be their are always out their who have thought of something you have not.
People read these blogs.
they are the lifeline to the Fans
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by I blocked Patrick Chewing on May 28, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions
Because Hollinger is an admitted stats geek....not a journalist!!
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Much Respect for Cavs Fans
I want to preface saying that I am a Celtics fan. With that being said, I did not know who to root for in this series. Dislike both teams. However, with the way Magic fans have behaved on this blog I am the biggest Cavaliers fan there is. I find it apalling the number of Magic fans who have come onto this site looking to ignite fights up 2-1/3-1 in this series. I know its not the majority of the fan base but regardless, it makes the Magic fans look pathetic and outclassed.
I applaud you Cavs fans for keeping your cool. Hopefully that pays off and you guys have the last laugh.
we had the orlando RAGE i think the pathetic and outcalssed ship sailed long ago...
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by I blocked Patrick Chewing on May 28, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
YOu are talking about Orlando. 1 team town. And a shity 1 team at that. Tourists and Bad traffic. Tmac grant Hill and Shaq
You try showing class with that history, Mr 17 titles
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by I blocked Patrick Chewing on May 28, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude, it’s not hard to show a little class. That’s a sorry excuse to act like an idiot (as you said above).
by Buckeye Brad on May 28, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Live in Orlando for 20+ years cheer for the Magic and see if you can produce class.
point is, You can’t
Its impossible.
Unless of course you can turn back time and live your life in Orlando as opposed to Ohio…
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by I blocked Patrick Chewing on May 28, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
any attempts to claim distressed fandom is instantly rebuked when speaking to a cleveland fan. you may think you have it rough…you don’t.
by DontCallMeJoey on May 28, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha, yeah, he’s got ya, Pat
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by Turkmenbashi on May 28, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Indeed, Dam guys '64? my old man was 19 in 64 Jesus.
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by I blocked Patrick Chewing on May 28, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep. Now you know why we’re all so defensive.
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by Turkmenbashi on May 28, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess I need to take a chill pill 20 is not looking so bad right now....
I just feel as if the King is going to Debow someone 4-3 after being down 3-1 why not the Magic, the NBA’s favorite whipping boy?
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by I blocked Patrick Chewing on May 28, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Lol...i wasn't born in 64...if i lived in cleveland i would have never known a championship team...
…oh…uhm..oops…sorry…forgot where i was for a sec..:(
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Me neither. I’m lucky to have not have suffered all these years, ha.
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by Turkmenbashi on May 28, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Why cause you live in D.C. now?? lol
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I just dont understand a team's fan base
coming onto the opposing team’s blog and acting like a holes. Makes no sense. If you get a chance try to read the Orlando is dominating the Cavs hijacked thread.
Yeah, I don’t get that either. I’ve been on these blogs for 3 years and I’ve never once went to another team’s site to talk trash. I guess I’m just not like some people.
by Buckeye Brad on May 28, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
If you don't like Orlando....plenty of flights leaving OIA my friend..:)
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Spoken like a true Celtic instigator....now go away....cuz neither of our teams like you and you should be fishing somewhere...lol
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Nick,
You’re a good egg, but I think it’s important to re-stress the point you’ve already made: This is not the majority of Magic fans. I haven’t been on Magic blogs, but I suspect there are some jerky Cleveland fans who make their way over there, too.
I just don’t understand the point these fans are trying to make. I mean, they’re winning the series, but that is apparently not good enough. They desire to rub salt in very raw wounds for fun. I can’t relate.
Cheers, and thanks for stopping by.
Actually no....most of the jerky fans are Lakers fans talking shit about Lebron and the Cavs...
…Cavs fans stick pretty much to home as far as that goes i guess…maybe cuz you guys have such a great blog here..:)
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, Ill never
forget the illogical Magic fan who argued that the Cavs were being dominated in this series. It overtook a thread and was irrational and pathetic. I
Thanks....caught any big ones lately..??:)
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by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Magic in 5 0r 6 Stop already
You are what Young Drew Barrymore was speaking of in the Movie E.T. when she called her brother a penis breath…
Yeah like 2 years ago 20 years after seeing the movie It clicked that she called him a penis breath and what it meant.
LOL
I thought I was insufferbale
dam….
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by I blocked Patrick Chewing on May 28, 2009 5:50 PM CDT reply actions
I become an expert simply by doing something.
by fwembt on May 28, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
mmmm POT Grrrrrrrmmmmmmmmm
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by I blocked Patrick Chewing on May 28, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I ran into Skips AAU coach at the Walgreens in Ft Lauderdale, I did not believe him he called that man Skip right then and there
once again I was proven to be an ass…
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by I blocked Patrick Chewing on May 28, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
You are....but only some of the time..:)
..usually after big wins…lol
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Great post Tabs!
It’s ironic that one of the Magic fans on this site is a reference to Patrick Ewing – I just can’t help but think about the 1985 NCAA basketball final. The Hoyas did not play poorly – they shot 55% from the field!!! But, how do you beat a team that shoots 78% from the field? Sometimes that’s just the way it goes.
The Cavs are not losing – they are just not winning… With all due respect to the Magic.
I don’t know – for some reason the Magic fans want to disrespect the success they are having. It’s not that they are shooting great and beating a great team – they are just playing normal basketball against an overrated team. Bizarre logic from many Magic fans…
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
I think alot of those fans ...not me...get that from the reagular season series(Yes i know..only 3 games, 2 in Orlando)...
…anyways…however small a sample size.( Ughhh..Brad has me talking like him now..lol) …the Magic showed to their fans at least…that they were clearly a good match for the Cavs if nothing else..and that the series would be more competitive …much more…than Cleveland’s first 2.
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
Brad has me talking like him now
Hey, that’s not a bad thing, is it?
I am a math teacher, so it’s good to know that I’ve educated someone about statistics!
by Buckeye Brad on May 28, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
That was for Brad on whether talking like him was a good thing or not...:)
…Engineering grad here…so it was more helped refresh than taught..:) 20 years is a long time since college…lol::P
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 28, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I was an engineering student once, but I didn’t like it much so I switched to math then became a high school teacher. I wanted to make the big bucks, ya know!
by Buckeye Brad on May 28, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Yea..i got my degree in Engineering but ....
…i found the classes and class mates so boring i went into advertising and eventually started my own little company…hence all the free time..lol
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 29, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude, how can I get in on that? I’ve always been interested in advertising!
Ride on ye fearsome Horsemen of the Basketball Apocalypse. We got this.
by Turkmenbashi on May 29, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Good luck for the game tonight everyone....Off to my good luck bar to watch!!!
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
Blunts and Basketball
Good Luck guys see you in a couple
Yup I will show if we lose.
Some people swear they down as can be
Turns out those same Homies Sit down to pee
by I blocked Patrick Chewing on May 28, 2009 7:11 PM CDT reply actions
Great post. There are parts of the hot shooting Magic that I do place blame on the Cavs for, mainly guarding Turk and Lewis with shorter players. It’s easy to make a higher percentage of shots when defenders are shorter, but also chasing constantly in a rotation after doubling inside. That said, your comments about Alston’s shooting and Howard’s foul shots are right on the money
Alston follows it up with a 1 for 10 performance.
Yeah, I was worried though when he made the first one. Thankfully that’s where his luck ended.
I’d like to see where the Magic fans are who claimed that Alston would keep shooting like he did in Game 4.
by Buckeye Brad on May 28, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Game 6 is extremely important (obviously) because it’s probably Orlando’s best bet to close the series, with a hot shooting performance in front of the home crowd. I really hope Mike Brown decides to put Lebron on either Hedo or Rashard the whole game. It will take a massive effort to play that kind of defense and carry the team offensively, but it’s win or go home time
Turk actually plays better on the road....and it's not close either...
…hopefully he can buck that trend or at least not kills us with bad plays…
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 29, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I really hope
No Orlando fans thought Alston would keep performing like he did…
Any Rockets fan can attest to that not happening.
Go Rockets.
by Rock Creator on May 29, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions
We didn't....
we knew what we we’re getting when we got him….he’s average for a point guard i would say…better defensively than offensively obviously…a little shot happy and showboaty sometimes…..but overall he’s been a great pickup and hasn’t hurt too bad so far…especially considering the alternative was playing Anthony “Dad” Johnson 40 minutes a game..lol. Considering we basically got him for nothing at the virtually the last minute of the trade deadline…it was probably the deal of the year!!
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 29, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I wasn't one of those....
f…rankly i’m just hoping he’s go back to his 4-10, 1-3 behind the arc for Game 6. I wish Stan would just start Turk, Lee, Pietrus , Lewis , and Dwight….thats been our best lineup by far….didn’t see them together much in the 4th…thought that was a bad move on Stan’s part
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"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 29, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Who can play the point in that lineup — Lee? Has he done that much for Orlando this year?
by Buckeye Brad on May 29, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Turk runs the point in that lineup...
..Lee plays the shooting guard but guards the PG….Pietrus plays the SF on offense but either him or Turk may take turns guarding LeBrawn..lol..my new nickname for him…:)
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 29, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
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