2009 NBA Draft Open Discussion
by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Jun 25, 2009 6:01 PM CDT
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The 2009 NBA Draft is here, and might be the least exciting news of the day around the NBA. First it was Shaq to Cleveland, then Vinsanity to Orlando. Can anything that happens tonight even come close to that?
Get comfy, because the Cavaliers won't pick until #30, unless of course they make a move to acquire(buy) a pick from a less financially fortunate team. Talk about the draft here!
The picks, as they happen, after the jump --
1. Los Angeles Clippers -- Blake Griffin, PF -- Oklahoma
2. Memphis Grizzlies -- Hasheem Thabeet, C -- UCONN
3. OK City Thunder -- James Harden, SG -- Arizona State
4. Sacramento Kings -- Tyreke Evans, SG -- Memphis
5. Minnesota T-Wolves -- Ricky Rubio, PG -- Spain
6. Minnesota T-Wolves -- Jonny Flynn, PG -- Syracuse
7. Golden State Warriors -- Stephen Curry, PG -- Davidson
8. New York Knicks -- Jordan Hill, F -- Arizona
9. Toronto Raptors -- DeMar DeRozan, G -- USC
10. Milwaukee Bucks -- Brandon Jennings, PG -- Compton, CA/Italy
11. New Jersey Nets -- Terrence Williams, F -- Louisville
12. Charlotte Bobcats -- Gerald Henderson, G -- Duke
13. Indiana Pacers -- Tyler Hansbrough, F -- North Carolina
14. Phoenix Suns -- Earl Clark, F -- Louisville
15. Detroit Pistons -- Austin Daye, F -- Gonzaga
16. Chicago Bulls -- James Johnson, F -- Wake Forest
17. Philadelphia 76'ers -- Jrue Holiday, PG -- UCLA
18. Minnesota T-Wolves -- Ty Lawson, PG -- UNC (HEADED TO DENVER)
19. Atlanta Hawks -- Jeff Teague, PG -- Wake Forest
20. Utah Jazz -- Eric Maynor, PG -- VCU
21. New Orleans Hornets -- Darren Collison, PG -- UCLA
22. Portland Trailblazers -- Victor Claver, F -- Spain
23. Sacramento Kings -- Omri Casspi, F -- Isreal
24. Dallas Mavericks -- BJ Mullens, C -- Ohio State (HEADED TO OK CITY)
25. OK City Thunder -- Rodrigue Beaubois, PG -- Guadeloupe (HEADED TO DALLAS)
26. Chicago Bulls -- Taj Gibson, PF -- USC
27. Memphis Grizzlies -- DeMarre Carroll, F -- Missouri
28. Minnesota T-Wolves -- Wayne Ellington, G -- UNC
29. LA Lakers -- Tony Douglas, G -- Florida State (HEADED TO NEW YORK)
30. Cleveland Cavaliers -- Christian Eyenga, G/F - Congo
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Did you see where Brandon Jennings called him out?
He just looks like the typical over-hyped foreign player.
he really does. plus, PG is traditionally a really hard position to translate from high school or overseas, especially young overseas. t. parker being the exception, obviously, but it took him time, and a hall of fame teammate, to get there.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
keep him in the green room. evans is a much better pro.
can’t believe curry is going to be a top-10 pick either.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
that’s what spawned the comment, yeah. i can’t stand fran fraschilla, i think he has no idea what he’s talking about…i’d love to roll some old tape of him going on and on about nikola tskitishvilli or some other massive foreign bust.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
dude…he’s got marc gasol to tutor him…
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
That chick next to Rubio is ugly
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by 'Shard's Goatee on Jun 25, 2009 7:00 PM CDT reply actions
You’ve sold me! (Bolts away from FTS)
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by Chris Pokorny on Jun 25, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Well there is Rubio
who are we getting at 18?
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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Better not be Hansbourgh that guy sucks
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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
He doesn’t say, but I suspect that Rubio was the guard the Twolves really wanted.
by woodsmeister on Jun 25, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Rumors were that the Wolves wanted to package the 18th pick along with either 5 or 6 to move up to get Rubio. Since they got him at 5 they may be able to trade that pick now.
by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha, I was just thinking that the Cavs should try to do that. They could get a good player at 18 (Sam Young!).
by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Fylnn ?
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Prob not Minnesota sucks.
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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
i would have to imagine. i can’t see how rubio/flynn works, especially at 5/6…
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Love it NY can't get Curry LOL
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derozan is a baller, he would have been a great fit for the knicks. he’ll be steal-ish (as much as a lottery pick can be a steal)
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
donnie walsh: jordan is a very nice guy.
don’t see how this can miss, donnie
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
According to Windhorst, the Cavs get to keep their second round pick this year because they weren’t allowed to trade it on a technicality. So now the Suns will get next year’s second round pick instead. Maybe the Cavs can use that pick to help trade up in the first round?
Milwaukee really wanted DeRozen awesome
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henderson to milwaukee? no jefferson, and no derozan…
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
This draft is weak.
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another awful pick for the Bucks
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Jennings stiffed the draft room LOL
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I saw a lot of mock drafts having him go around 11-15 so I’m not surprised.
by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
i didn’t see him much higher than 18-20.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Chad Ford’s mock draft at ESPN had him going at 11.
by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
mostly kidding…more of a comment on ford and his history.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Awful pick of henderson
that guy is a role player AT BEST!
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the ‘cats can’t help but take in-state players (felton, may). they haven’t exactly hit homers with those so far…
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
They are trying to buy tickets
but it isn’t working
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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
it really is. i’ve heard he doesn’t like to put the work in…he trusts his gut.
two words: adam morrison (or kwame brown, if you prefer)
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
i’m shocked that vitale loves the hansbrough pick. shocked.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
That really surprised me
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Ironically, Daye was the guy I picked for the Cavs in the Ball Don’t Lie/SBNation Mock Draft….
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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Jun 25, 2009 8:06 PM CDT reply actions
shows what a reach he was for Detroit
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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I just saw that — why didn’t you post something about that on here? I didn’t even know you were doing that.
by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
So here’s the part where I admit I know next to nothing about any of these people in the draft. This was the first year I only even tacitly followed NCAA basketball.
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Yep. I only know the people who are falling from big programs.
On that note, is anyone else shocked that Jrue Holliday is still on the board?
Dude I don’t even know who that is. I know a few of the dudes that played for UNC.
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
having watched him play some last year (i live on the west coast), not really. he’s got great potential, had big hype coming out of high school, didn’t show up great at UCLA.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Just spoke him to being drafted
Who is next?
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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm, I thought Daye was a surprise here, but Chad Ford has this one picked as well. His mock draft is actually pretty accurate so far.
He is an insider it should be.
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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
True, but a lot of mock drafts (even by those who know people) are off because surprises always happen.
by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Guess he knows the idiot GM's best.
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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I just have no idea how to gauge whether or not a dude will be good coming out of college
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I liked Lebron out of high school
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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha, that’s a good bet
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Cavs Pick?
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Minnesota's draft room looked much busier this time around
Trade?Cavs??
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i have NO idea…but as a guess, i’d say the cavs don’t get a deal done for this pick.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
i agree that it isn’t particularly worth it
that said, this seems like it’s gotta be a pick for someone else, right? no way they’re going w/ 3 pg’s
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Jeff Teague is my guess
to the Wolves why not
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LOL
PG’s LOL
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have to be. no clue if it’s the cavs, but they HAVE to be moving at least one of these guys.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
i say no, although if mullens falls much further i could see them getting the phones going
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Mullens is a flop
no way do I want him and I love THE OHIO STATE
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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
he seems pretty skilled for a young 7-footer, and who better to learn from than Z and shaq
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Skilled at being below average you mean
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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
interestingly, that is not what i mean. i see how you could be confused, though
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
pros: he is excellent at not being very good
cons: he is not very strong a being quite good
i can see it spun as a skill
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
they are not allowed to i believe. there seems to be a silly nba rule that a team cannot not have a 1st round pick 2 years in a row. lame one there.
i didn’t mean move out of the first round, i meant move up higher.
also, i think the rule you’re referring to is that a team cannot trade away its first round pick in consecutive years.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Sam Young fall to the Cavs at 30?
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I would love that but he won’t last that long. Maybe the Cavs can move up to 25 or so and get him.
by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Lots of talented
big player left?
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Shaquille O’Neal: Cavaliers Center
I’m sorry, but that is f***ing cool as hell to see
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 8:41 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
i don’t understand this theme that mark jackson has picked up that the cavs need to do more, that they are not a better team today by just trading for shaq. of course they are…that’s just a ridiculous statement.
saw a draft buzz on yahoo I guess T wolfs are trying to get a deal done thats all it really said they really like him
I thought OKC was going to draft him in the first place. Probably a good fit for him. OKC is building something.
Yeah they have a nice collection of young players. They can wait for him to develop.
by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
they really do. if mullens pans out, they are really really tough.
what’s the other side of the deal?
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Dallas gets their pick, some foreign guy.
by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
not sure, there might be something else involved.
by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
didn’t the OKC pick just get moved to CHI? all this movement, i think i’m confused…
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Draft
…..Still Available……
* Josh Heytvelt 6’11" 260 15 ppg 5 rpg Gonzaga
Come on Cav’s get this animal now !!
Sam Young still there only 2 picks to go…
by woodsmeister on Jun 25, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
DaJuan Summers
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Gotta be Young here….Blair has too many question-marks, especially with two bad knees….
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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Jun 25, 2009 9:18 PM CDT reply actions
DaJuan Summers
can defend Lewis and Hedo go get him he is starring you in the face.
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Who?
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the best pick in the draft just happened!
notice the lack of highlights/comments from ESPN?
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm….I like the highlights. This is a pick for the future.
But, why, when there are players on the board who can help now? This doesn’t make sense.
is this a money move, too? stash him away in spain for another couple of years and keep him of the cap for next summer?
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
that’s the only thing i can figure, with blair, young, summers, budinger and brown staring at you
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
From ESPN
NBA body
Excellent athlete
Explosive leaper
Quick and physical defender
Emerging perimeter game
Negatives:
Lacks a high basketball IQ
Raw
Summary: Apr 30 Update: Super athletic wing who uses his athleticism and strength to make a difference on the court. His basketball IQ is raw, but teams might draft him in the second round based on his ability to defend multiple positions.
by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously, who the christ is this guy? Has anyone here ever heard of him?
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Windhorst, via Twitter —
PDcavsinsider Looking through draft guide now. Sorry, know nothing about him
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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Jun 25, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Totally Confused!
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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Jun 25, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions
SCOUTING REPORT
Positives: Raw but he has a wingspan of nearly 7 feet, which is superb for a shooting guard/small forward, with good court quickness and lateral agility…Very good natural tools…Showed improvement creating his own shot along the perimeter and has surprising quickness slashing to the basket…Has increased his weight and improved his strength to better handle punishment inside…Draws contact on the way to the basketball, using his length well to finish with dunks and aggressively attacking the rim…Explosive leaper who is starting to come into his own on the defensive end, ranking fourth in the league in blocked shots last season…Has the elevation, reach and timing to contest shots regularly…Has an NBA-ready body and is powerful enough to take on bigger frontcourt players trying to establish position under the basket (pulled down 127 boards in 29 games in 2008-09)…Improved his hand usage in his second year with the team, uses his low center of gravity and lateral agility to get into the passing lanes and cause problems (27 steals in 2008-09)…Creates mismatches vs. small forwards with an explosive first step to beat his man off the dribble and is slowly developing a nice array of moves (spins, hesitations, fakes) to slip away and get space to take his jumper…His ball-handling skills are a work in progress, but he has decent passing ability when double-teamed…His basketball IQ still is developing, but he is not as easily fooled by shooters despite limited basketball experience…Good finisher in transition and has improved his scoring touch from the foul line…More comfortable at the two-guard position, but shows the athleticism to take on small forwards and as his frame continues to mature, he will more likely reside there in the NBA…Demonstrates decent passing ability to the open outlet to also earn some minutes at point forward…Can score off the dribble and has developed a nice fade-away jumper…Demonstrates fluid mechanics, can get his shot up and over much taller opponents…Attacks the lane with a vengeance and can hang in the air to draw contact…Times his leaps to come down with the ball or get up to put it back at its high point…Patient player who lets the action come to him rather than try to force the issue…Can get to the basket after being fed the ball off screens…Will sacrifice his body to chase loose balls…Uses his reach and keeps his arms active to steal the ball or change shots when applying pressure defense…Sets his feet to uncork his mid-range jumper…Crowd pleaser with aggressiveness going to the rim, whether on the break or by going over the opponent…Shows good shooting for firing from behind the arc, demonstrating that sudden release and elevation connecting from the outside…Is quick and elusive with the ability to vary speeds…Has solid overall defensive skills and will not hesitate to draw a charge.
Negatives: Still in the developmental stage and could have used a few more years with the parent Joventut team to mature, but the organization is having financial issues, which contributed to Eyenga’s decision and he might be a strong candidate for the D-League…Has a high release point to get the ball over defenders, but pushes the ball quite a bit and needs to develop better rotation and accuracy and balance shooting from the perimeter…Still learning how to trust his off hand, is too predictable as a scorer, constantly favoring his right hand…Has excellent elevation, but will leave his feet early and doesn’t have natural timing as a rebounder…Was forced to play power forward and will need a few years to develop a well-round game on the wing, as his frame will never develop into an NBA type four-forward.
Compares To: NICOLAS BATUM, Portland — Eyenga needs time to acclimate to the NBA and also to playing on the wing. He has developing offensive skills, but could be a nice value pick for a team willing to nurture him by bringing him off the bench due to his defensive presence. He is more quick than he is fast, but has had good success playing the European, open-court style. He played more at power forward in Spain, but he lacks the size to play that position at the NBA level. He could put up points, contest a few shots and combat under the boards to become a vital reserve as a “4” in a small lineup or a regular wing player.
—Report by Dave-Te’ Thomas
needs to develop better rotation and accuracy and balance shooting from the perimeter
in other words, he needs to learn how to shoot.
awesome.
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
We’re just using him to harvest body parts. We are going to chop off his arms and sew them onto one of our guards.
he was supposed to replace rubio on joventut
stats from last season:
2008-09 SEASON
Eyenga played in a total of 29 games; four with the DKV Joventut Badalona squad during Euroleague competition (replaced an injured Ricky Rubio on the roster) and 25 with the CB Prat Juventud team…Combined, he scored 335 points (11.6 per game), hitting 54.3 percent from two-point field goal range (100 of 184), 34.6 percent from 3-point territory (27 of 78) and 71.1 percent from the foul line (54 of 76) while logging a total of 774 minutes on the court…Charged with 65 personal fouls, but led the LEB-Silver Division with an average of 1.6 blocked shots per game (1.4 per game overall — 40 total blocks, including 39 in the LEB)…Grabbed 127 rebounds (4.4 per game), handed out 16 assists (0.6 per game) and had 27 steals (1.1 per game)…Scored in double figures in 18 of 25 games for Prat and twice had at least 10 rebounds.
Compares To: NICOLAS BATUM, Portland
Sigh…. Damn it…
by Bernie19Kosar on Jun 25, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
young at 46?
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Didn’t we trade 46 for Shaq?
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
on a technicality, the 2nd rounder got bumped to 2010
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Read the Windhorst article I linked to above.
by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
This is all part of the 'GET CHRIS BOSH NOW' plan
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 25, 2009 9:39 PM CDT reply actions
i actually misspoke…i think this is a part of the “GET CHRIS BOSH IN 2010” plan…not now. i have no idea how we’d get him now, or how this pick plays into it.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like a pick up to me
after reading about him, he would be perfect for defending guys like Lewis and Hedo. Granted he will not play this year but I like the pick now. Seeing as how Young and Summers are dropping we might get then at 46.
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Bye bye Sam
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Derrick Brown is still around
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Bilas: “his arm got stuck on a piece of apparatus”.
what the shit is a piece of apparatus?
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
I want to Convey that this draft sucks.
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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 9:53 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yea he is a big body
Plus he breaks his nose a lot which is awesome (SARC)
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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Chase is the worst player in the Draft.
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Ok, no one even that could remotely have a chance to make this team is still around.
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er maybe Meeks be he will be gone or Ferry will pass on him.
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I’m hoping we select some coffee bean farmer from South America and claim that we’re going to stash him away for a few years too.
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
Nick Cathales, Patrick Mills, Danny Green
by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I bet we take him because he is already commited to playing overseas.
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Meeks
air apparent to Michael Redd.
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Christian Evenga chatted with ESPN.com after the draft:
Buzzmaster
Christian Evenga is here!
jason (columbus, ohio)
evenga, how do you feel about possibly playing with lebron in a few years?
Christian Evenga
It’s something that I take a lot of pride to have the chance to play with one of hte best players in the world. I know I will be able to learn a lot from him.
ryan
Will you be coming to the NBA right away?
Christian Evenga
I don’t want to burn any bridges. It will be a step by step thing. I will come when I’m ready.
Josh (Indy)
What position do you see yorself playing for he Cavs
Christian Evenga
Of course I will do whatever’s necessary to help the team, but I feel most comfortable playing the three.
Tim (Barrington)
Evenga, whatandapos;s going to be your biggest goal when you make your NBA debut in a few years?
Christian Evenga
The key thing would be to help the team to win the championship and be a part of it.
Kevin (NY)
Were you expecting to be drafted in the first round?
Christian Evenga
All of the players who were here were expecting to be drafted. Where? You don’t know. But I was looking forward to being drafted.
Christian Evenga
I am very grateful for the support. I would like you to continue to support me in the NBA. I will do my best to not disappoint anyone.
Buzzmaster
Christian was very cool. He was speaking through a translator. They both looked tired.
I am very grateful for the support. I would like you to continue to support me in the NBA. I will do my best to not disappoint anyone.
This reads like one of those same emails.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 25, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Buzzmaster
Christian was very cool. He was speaking through a translator.
No way.
by Bernie19Kosar on Jun 25, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, probably a big moment for him. I’ll bet he’s never been to the USA before.
by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
This was a Spurs move by the FO. No big surprise.
by dgcambridge on Jun 25, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Vyacheslav Kravtsov is still around {SARC}
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Thank you Detriot Chase is off the board. Chase is a Wally with out any skill.
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Yep only worse
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Danny Green!
Coach Roy can go home now!
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 25, 2009 10:20 PM CDT reply actions
Shouldn’t. Such is the flexability of the 2nd round pick.
by dgcambridge on Jun 25, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Danny Green is a solid pick here.
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Yay, I know this guy cuz he played for UNC!
Ride on ye fearsome Horsemen of the Basketball Apocalypse. We got this.
I think that’s what 90% of Cavs fans are thinking.
Now we get to hear about how he has a “winning mentality” because he’s from UNC and just won a national title, and that’s what is going to put the Cavs over the hump.
by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Eh, I’ll take it
Ride on ye fearsome Horsemen of the Basketball Apocalypse. We got this.
by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I wasn’t criticizing the pick. I think he’s what you’d expect for the second round.
by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I was criticizing the stupidity of sports reporting.
by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh I know, I’m just saying that in this case I can’t criticize at all because I know literally nothing about anyone in the draft unless they played for UNC, and only because my roommate is a tacit UNC fan and I totally sold out to jump on their bandwagon this year.
Ride on ye fearsome Horsemen of the Basketball Apocalypse. We got this.
by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Danny Green is an excellent perimeter shooter
who stepped in as the teams best perimeter defender after Ginyard was lost for the season. If it was late in a game and the Heels need a big shot, outside of Ellington, the ball went to Green.
Between Ellington and Green, the Heels were never out of a game. They were a 2 minute span of hot shooting of getting themselves back into it.
As a Heels fan, if he makes the roster, I’m ordering a uni.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 25, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
i’m good with danny green.
the more i think about eyenga, it’s gotta be a money thing. the cavs must be doing the same math that we were in another thread, and they see that their space under the projected 2010 cap is going to be SUPER tight as it relates to signing another max player (i.e. bosh).
stash this guy in europe and keep him off the books, and then i’m making a call right now…assuming next season is a good, playoff year, they will sell the first round pick…a la the lakers at 29. all with the intentional of saving every penny they can to get under the cap enough to sign a second max contract.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 10:23 PM CDT reply actions
Danny Green > Wally World
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Bilas cutting down Taylor Griffin
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"We really believe, what was that kid's name again? Anyways, the guy
from the Congo will be able to help this franchise move forward. He was really someone we were hoping was on the board at 57. What? You mean we picked him in the first round? Who the hell did that?"
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 25, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
If you’re a sophomore and get drafted 54th, don’t you reconsider the voices of reason you listen to?
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
You are still making more than you would have
in your Russian Literature class next fall.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 25, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Not necessarily, many second round picks don’t make the team. The point is he probably could have been drafted higher next year if he stayed in school and got guarenteed money.
by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
And I just realized Taylor Griffin was drafted. There literally have to be 100 guys with a better chance of becoming a pro basketball player than him. I can’t be persuaded otherwise.
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
he actually has a lot of ability when it comes to being not good at basketball
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Skills: Waving a towel and resembling a #1 pick
Needs to work on: Basketball
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
areas for improvement: shooting, rebounding, defense, ball handling
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 26, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
theres no way danny green is worse than wally, i see him getting a few minutes, shaq wont play every game and now that ben is gone and andy is at PF im betting green gets minutes when lebron is resting and he might play some back up SG too, from what i can gather on google he can shoot and hopefully brown can teach him how to play D, i could see him becoming the best player out of the 2nd round…although thats not saying much for this draft
Green is one of the best defenders in college. His shooting form is better but he still needs work.
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w/ sasha and wally gone, the cavs literally have ZERO size in the backcourt. green’s going to have to be able to put up some minutes.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 26, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Both were ineffective though, so their size really wasn’t important. The Cavs needed to upgrade from both those players if they are serious about winning a title
without question. it’s not that those two were great, as much as they were warm bodies who were capable of giving you at least some minutes as larger guards. wally guarded lewis somewhat effectively in the post, if you’ll remember, and sasha was effective in game 2. now, there is seriously not one big guard option (except when you move LeBron over) on the roster.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 26, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
although, let me also say that while i agree that those two slots needed upgrading, i don’t think that has anything to do with being “serious” about taking home a ring. you’re probably right if we’re talking about building a dynasty, but it was quite easy to imagine this team winning a championship this past year w/ those guys getting 15 and 20 mpg.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 26, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
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