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2009 NBA Draft Open Discussion

The 2009 NBA Draft is here, and might be the least exciting news of the day around the NBA.  First it was Shaq to Cleveland, then Vinsanity to Orlando.  Can anything that happens tonight even come close to that?

Get comfy, because the Cavaliers won't pick until #30, unless of course they make a move to acquire(buy) a pick from a less financially fortunate team.  Talk about the draft here!

The picks, as they happen, after the jump --

Star-divide

1.  Los Angeles Clippers -- Blake Griffin, PF -- Oklahoma
2.  Memphis Grizzlies -- Hasheem Thabeet, C -- UCONN
3.  OK City Thunder -- James Harden, SG -- Arizona State
4.  Sacramento Kings --  Tyreke Evans, SG -- Memphis
5.  Minnesota T-Wolves -- Ricky Rubio, PG -- Spain
6.  Minnesota T-Wolves -- Jonny Flynn, PG -- Syracuse
7.  Golden State Warriors -- Stephen Curry, PG -- Davidson
8.  New York Knicks -- Jordan Hill, F -- Arizona
9.  Toronto Raptors -- DeMar DeRozan, G -- USC
10.  Milwaukee Bucks -- Brandon Jennings, PG -- Compton, CA/Italy
11.  New Jersey Nets -- Terrence Williams, F -- Louisville
12.  Charlotte Bobcats -- Gerald Henderson, G -- Duke
13.  Indiana Pacers -- Tyler Hansbrough, F -- North Carolina
14.  Phoenix Suns -- Earl Clark, F -- Louisville
15.  Detroit Pistons -- Austin Daye, F -- Gonzaga
16.  Chicago Bulls -- James Johnson, F -- Wake Forest
17.  Philadelphia 76'ers -- Jrue Holiday, PG -- UCLA
18.  Minnesota T-Wolves -- Ty Lawson, PG -- UNC (HEADED TO DENVER)
19.  Atlanta Hawks -- Jeff Teague, PG -- Wake Forest
20.  Utah Jazz -- Eric Maynor, PG -- VCU
21.  New Orleans Hornets -- Darren Collison, PG -- UCLA
22.  Portland Trailblazers --  Victor Claver, F -- Spain
23.  Sacramento Kings -- Omri Casspi, F -- Isreal
24.  Dallas Mavericks -- BJ Mullens, C -- Ohio State (HEADED TO OK CITY)
25.  OK City Thunder -- Rodrigue Beaubois, PG -- Guadeloupe (HEADED TO DALLAS)
26.  Chicago Bulls -- Taj Gibson, PF -- USC
27.  Memphis Grizzlies -- DeMarre Carroll, F -- Missouri
28.  Minnesota T-Wolves -- Wayne Ellington, G -- UNC
29.  LA Lakers -- Tony Douglas, G -- Florida State (HEADED TO NEW YORK)
30.  Cleveland Cavaliers -- Christian Eyenga, G/F - Congo

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can i go on the record as saying i believe ricky rubio will be a bust, please?

that is all.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 6:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Did you see where Brandon Jennings called him out?

He just looks like the typical over-hyped foreign player.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he really does. plus, PG is traditionally a really hard position to translate from high school or overseas, especially young overseas. t. parker being the exception, obviously, but it took him time, and a hall of fame teammate, to get there.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like he’s about to fall.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

keep him in the green room. evans is a much better pro.

can’t believe curry is going to be a top-10 pick either.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He came out of nowhere in the last week. I was reading a couple mock drafts a few months ago, and there was debate over whether he would even be a first round pick.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really like Rubio

by Roger Dorn on Jun 25, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

rubio

Is that a counter tp espn calling him the next pistol Pete

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 6:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that’s what spawned the comment, yeah. i can’t stand fran fraschilla, i think he has no idea what he’s talking about…i’d love to roll some old tape of him going on and on about nikola tskitishvilli or some other massive foreign bust.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thabeet is going to be a bust. He has no offensive game whatsoever.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 6:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

dude…he’s got marc gasol to tutor him…

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, right, my bad.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That chick next to Rubio is ugly

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 6:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

harden is nice. good pick there for OKC.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 6:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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by 'Shard's Goatee on Jun 25, 2009 7:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You’ve sold me! (Bolts away from FTS)

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by Chris Pokorny on Jun 25, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Windhorst is tweeting that the Cavs will go after the Twolves pick at 18 if the Wolves get Rubio.

by woodsmeister on Jun 25, 2009 7:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well there is Rubio

who are we getting at 18?

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Better not be Hansbourgh that guy sucks

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any particular reason why it was contingent on Rubio?

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He doesn’t say, but I suspect that Rubio was the guard the Twolves really wanted.

by woodsmeister on Jun 25, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rumors were that the Wolves wanted to package the 18th pick along with either 5 or 6 to move up to get Rubio. Since they got him at 5 they may be able to trade that pick now.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Makes sense. It would make sense for the Wolves to stockpile youth considering they aren’t very good, but who knows what the Cavs are offering.

Wow, they take Flynn as well. That’s a lot of point guards.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha, I was just thinking that the Cavs should try to do that. They could get a good player at 18 (Sam Young!).

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, there goes Rubio.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 7:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fylnn ?

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 7:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Probably a trade in the works.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 7:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Prob not Minnesota sucks.

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i would have to imagine. i can’t see how rubio/flynn works, especially at 5/6…

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love it NY can't get Curry LOL

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Warriors get Acie Law and Speedy Claxton from the Hawks for Jamal Crawford.

by woodsmeister on Jun 25, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What a reach for Curry at 7.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

DeRozan would be good for the Knicks. He can run well in their “chuck and duck” system.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 7:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

derozan is a baller, he would have been a great fit for the knicks. he’ll be steal-ish (as much as a lottery pick can be a steal)

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s a Raptor.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to New York, Jordan Hill. Feel the boos.

by woodsmeister on Jun 25, 2009 7:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

donnie walsh: jordan is a very nice guy.

don’t see how this can miss, donnie

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

According to Windhorst, the Cavs get to keep their second round pick this year because they weren’t allowed to trade it on a technicality. So now the Suns will get next year’s second round pick instead. Maybe the Cavs can use that pick to help trade up in the first round?

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 7:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Milwaukee really wanted DeRozen awesome

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 7:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

henderson to milwaukee? no jefferson, and no derozan…

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This draft is weak.

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 7:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

another awful pick for the Bucks

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jennings has the KidNPlay hair going bigtime in that footage.

by woodsmeister on Jun 25, 2009 7:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jennings stiffed the draft room LOL

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 7:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that is WAY high for williams, no? wow.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I saw a lot of mock drafts having him go around 11-15 so I’m not surprised.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i didn’t see him much higher than 18-20.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really? Everything I read had him going 20-early second round.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chad Ford’s mock draft at ESPN had him going at 11.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

even a broken clock…

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well that was just one example.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

mostly kidding…more of a comment on ford and his history.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, Williams is gone already. That’s higher than any mock draft had him.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 7:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn, I really liked Williams.

by Bernie19Kosar on Jun 25, 2009 7:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Awful pick of henderson

that guy is a role player AT BEST!

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 7:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jordan drafts a Blue Devil.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 7:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the ‘cats can’t help but take in-state players (felton, may). they haven’t exactly hit homers with those so far…

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They are trying to buy tickets

but it isn’t working

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s amazing how the greatest player to ever play the game has no eye for talent.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it really is. i’ve heard he doesn’t like to put the work in…he trusts his gut.

two words: adam morrison (or kwame brown, if you prefer)

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHA…Hansbrough at 13. What a waste.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 7:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that’s really high for him.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he’s such a stiff, too

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i’m shocked that vitale loves the hansbrough pick. shocked.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That really surprised me

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

anyone else think it’s pretty tasteless to have the annoucers’ comments broadcast throughout the whole arena? how do you think it went over w/ gerald henderson and his family to hear bilas say “not a very high basketball IQ”…

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ironically, Daye was the guy I picked for the Cavs in the Ball Don’t Lie/SBNation Mock Draft….

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Jun 25, 2009 8:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

shows what a reach he was for Detroit

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just saw that — why didn’t you post something about that on here? I didn’t even know you were doing that.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So here’s the part where I admit I know next to nothing about any of these people in the draft. This was the first year I only even tacitly followed NCAA basketball.

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 8:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep. I only know the people who are falling from big programs.

On that note, is anyone else shocked that Jrue Holliday is still on the board?

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude I don’t even know who that is. I know a few of the dudes that played for UNC.

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

having watched him play some last year (i live on the west coast), not really. he’s got great potential, had big hype coming out of high school, didn’t show up great at UCLA.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just spoke him to being drafted

Who is next?

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sam Young.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And right when I question why he’s still on the board, he goes off the board to Philadelphia.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

do it again…

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm, I thought Daye was a surprise here, but Chad Ford has this one picked as well. His mock draft is actually pretty accurate so far.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 8:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He is an insider it should be.

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, but a lot of mock drafts (even by those who know people) are off because surprises always happen.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guess he knows the idiot GM's best.

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Knicks just bought the Lakers 29th pick.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 8:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I just have no idea how to gauge whether or not a dude will be good coming out of college

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I liked Lebron out of high school

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha, that’s a good bet

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cavs Pick?

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sadly no it not looking that way

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Minnesota's draft room looked much busier this time around

Trade?Cavs??

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i have NO idea…but as a guess, i’d say the cavs don’t get a deal done for this pick.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

for any pick we have very little to deal here and not really worth it now I don’t think

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree that it isn’t particularly worth it

that said, this seems like it’s gotta be a pick for someone else, right? no way they’re going w/ 3 pg’s

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeff Teague is my guess

to the Wolves why not

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

PG’s LOL

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The T-wolves have to be picking for someone else. A third point guard?

by woodsmeister on Jun 25, 2009 8:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Cavs???

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

have to be. no clue if it’s the cavs, but they HAVE to be moving at least one of these guys.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, three guards?

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 8:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ty Lawson… I didn’t think they would take another PG.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 8:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

moving to nuggets.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they can’t be wanting to trade one of these guys can they

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 8:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

PG run right now.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 8:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It continues…Collison is the 5th PG to go in a row.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

good call. you’re 2-for-2-ish

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

quick straw poll: do the cavs move out of 30?

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think so not unless they see gold where I see silver

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

NO

time has passed not worth it.

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i say no, although if mullens falls much further i could see them getting the phones going

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mullens is a flop

no way do I want him and I love THE OHIO STATE

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he seems pretty skilled for a young 7-footer, and who better to learn from than Z and shaq

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Skilled at being below average you mean

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

interestingly, that is not what i mean. i see how you could be confused, though

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that a skill?

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

pros: he is excellent at not being very good
cons: he is not very strong a being quite good

i can see it spun as a skill

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they are not allowed to i believe. there seems to be a silly nba rule that a team cannot not have a 1st round pick 2 years in a row. lame one there.

by sether1 on Jun 25, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i didn’t mean move out of the first round, i meant move up higher.

also, i think the rule you’re referring to is that a team cannot trade away its first round pick in consecutive years.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

gotcha, trying to speed read through all the comments. still a silly rule.

by sether1 on Jun 25, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sam Young fall to the Cavs at 30?

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I would love that but he won’t last that long. Maybe the Cavs can move up to 25 or so and get him.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hopes are high in Cleveland

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lots of talented

big player left?

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

seems like it, yeah

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t really know I say we wait till the 8th when we can sign a F/A and get a wallace or someone

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 8:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sam Young, DaJuan Summers, Taj Gibson??? anyone of them work for me.

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 8:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

if they stay up there

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 8:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

use the reply button

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry I was replying to they guy that said any of them will work for me

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WTF Dallas?

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 8:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that trade looked bad to me anyone else

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 8:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Shaquille O’Neal: Cavaliers Center

I’m sorry, but that is f***ing cool as hell to see

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 8:41 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Portland really likes those foreign players.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 8:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

fraschilla just said of the blazers pick: small forward who can run and jump, shoot the ball

and he was serious. great analysis. i think we knew that, given that he is in a basketball draft.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i don’t understand this theme that mark jackson has picked up that the cavs need to do more, that they are not a better team today by just trading for shaq. of course they are…that’s just a ridiculous statement.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he just can’t admit how good we will be

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we gave up at best an 8th man , and a guy who is injury pron and can’t score

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn. Mullens gone to Dallas.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 8:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i think we should’ve kept sasha. …….. ha, can’t even keep a straight face reading that

by sether1 on Jun 25, 2009 8:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

so any one else think its funny that the t’wolfs are begging for rubio in a trade

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 8:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

saw a draft buzz on yahoo I guess T wolfs are trying to get a deal done thats all it really said they really like him

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they took him at 5

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But they already drafted Rubio.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry wrong knicks are in talks or something I am lost

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL, I believe our friend here is talking about this.

Knicks are in talks for Rubio.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thank you

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read wrong and have completely lost my mind I will shamefully walk away from this now

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mullens going to OKC in a trade.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 8:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought OKC was going to draft him in the first place. Probably a good fit for him. OKC is building something.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah they have a nice collection of young players. They can wait for him to develop.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they really do. if mullens pans out, they are really really tough.

what’s the other side of the deal?

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dallas gets their pick, some foreign guy.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s it? Why didn’t Dallas just draft the foreign guy in the first place then?

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah I thought the same thing

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not sure, there might be something else involved.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

didn’t the OKC pick just get moved to CHI? all this movement, i think i’m confused…

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

disregard, please

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve been there welcome to the party

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Draft

…..Still Available……

    * Josh Heytvelt 6’11" 260 15 ppg 5 rpg Gonzaga

Come on Cav’s get this animal now !!

by stealth43 on Jun 25, 2009 9:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sam Young still there, wow. Only 3 more picks to go. . .

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 9:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sam Young still there only 2 picks to go…

by woodsmeister on Jun 25, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

two more, and ellington there too.

i’m kind of a Blair fan too… i’d take any of the three.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Jun 25, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

although this sadly reminds me of when the cavs passed on ron artest to take trajan langdon, and i was furious. little did i know how exciting it would have been to have Crazy Ron Artest in cleveland.

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by rolub on Jun 25, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that memphis – carroll pick helps us out as far as options at 30

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 9:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So which PG will Minnesota take this time?

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 9:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

they may take flynn again

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

knicks or LA before us could be fun

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 9:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i hopw blair and young dont go 28 and 29

by Sizemorgasim on Jun 25, 2009 9:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Another guard for Minnesota – this time Ellington.

by woodsmeister on Jun 25, 2009 9:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you know what were lucky this draft wasn’t like James draft class or these 4 draft picks could have been big

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 9:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sam Young here we come.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 9:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow…our pick of pitt big men.

i say young over blair, personally

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep. Blair is too much like Hickson.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And the Cavs are on the clock with Sam Young available.

by woodsmeister on Jun 25, 2009 9:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Woo-hoo!!! Cavs on the board and Sam Young still there!

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 9:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow! He actually fell to the Cavs…

by Ilamuku on Jun 25, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DaJuan Summers

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 9:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gotta be Young here….Blair has too many question-marks, especially with two bad knees….

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Jun 25, 2009 9:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what, no tractor traylor jr?

by sether1 on Jun 25, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he’d be perfect… hope he’s the guy.

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by rolub on Jun 25, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the fact that shaq won one reg season MVP is criminal

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 9:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that doesn’t seem possible, oh yeah, steve nash stole a few

by sether1 on Jun 25, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DaJuan Summers

can defend Lewis and Hedo go get him he is starring you in the face.

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 9:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Eyenga!

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by rolub on Jun 25, 2009 9:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What the f***?

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 9:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who?

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 9:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WHAT!?!?!?!?!

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 9:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What the hell just happened?

by woodsmeister on Jun 25, 2009 9:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the best pick in the draft just happened!

notice the lack of highlights/comments from ESPN?

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can’t believe this guy is actually there

by ahowie on Jun 25, 2009 9:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he had to buy a ticket, too.

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by rolub on Jun 25, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is even more surprising than last year

by ahowie on Jun 25, 2009 9:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

our draft room was drunk

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i’m so confused

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 9:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Christian Eyenga

ESPN player profile if anyone is interested.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 9:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Um, don;t we like, need players who can help now? Why not Young?

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 9:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

7 ft wingspan on 6’5"? dang!

by sether1 on Jun 25, 2009 9:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm….I like the highlights. This is a pick for the future.

But, why, when there are players on the board who can help now? This doesn’t make sense.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i think ferys hoping to find that in F/A

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

is this a money move, too? stash him away in spain for another couple of years and keep him of the cap for next summer?

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that’s the only thing i can figure, with blair, young, summers, budinger and brown staring at you

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ooh, good one. I never thought of that.

by Ilamuku on Jun 25, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

From ESPN

NBA body
Excellent athlete
Explosive leaper
Quick and physical defender
Emerging perimeter game

Negatives:


Lacks a high basketball IQ
Raw

Summary: Apr 30 Update: Super athletic wing who uses his athleticism and strength to make a difference on the court. His basketball IQ is raw, but teams might draft him in the second round based on his ability to defend multiple positions.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, who the christ is this guy? Has anyone here ever heard of him?

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Windhorst, via Twitter —

PDcavsinsider Looking through draft guide now. Sorry, know nothing about him

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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Jun 25, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SCOUTING REPORT
Positives: Raw but he has a wingspan of nearly 7 feet, which is superb for a shooting guard/small forward, with good court quickness and lateral agility…Very good natural tools…Showed improvement creating his own shot along the perimeter and has surprising quickness slashing to the basket…Has increased his weight and improved his strength to better handle punishment inside…Draws contact on the way to the basketball, using his length well to finish with dunks and aggressively attacking the rim…Explosive leaper who is starting to come into his own on the defensive end, ranking fourth in the league in blocked shots last season…Has the elevation, reach and timing to contest shots regularly…Has an NBA-ready body and is powerful enough to take on bigger frontcourt players trying to establish position under the basket (pulled down 127 boards in 29 games in 2008-09)…Improved his hand usage in his second year with the team, uses his low center of gravity and lateral agility to get into the passing lanes and cause problems (27 steals in 2008-09)…Creates mismatches vs. small forwards with an explosive first step to beat his man off the dribble and is slowly developing a nice array of moves (spins, hesitations, fakes) to slip away and get space to take his jumper…His ball-handling skills are a work in progress, but he has decent passing ability when double-teamed…His basketball IQ still is developing, but he is not as easily fooled by shooters despite limited basketball experience…Good finisher in transition and has improved his scoring touch from the foul line…More comfortable at the two-guard position, but shows the athleticism to take on small forwards and as his frame continues to mature, he will more likely reside there in the NBA…Demonstrates decent passing ability to the open outlet to also earn some minutes at point forward…Can score off the dribble and has developed a nice fade-away jumper…Demonstrates fluid mechanics, can get his shot up and over much taller opponents…Attacks the lane with a vengeance and can hang in the air to draw contact…Times his leaps to come down with the ball or get up to put it back at its high point…Patient player who lets the action come to him rather than try to force the issue…Can get to the basket after being fed the ball off screens…Will sacrifice his body to chase loose balls…Uses his reach and keeps his arms active to steal the ball or change shots when applying pressure defense…Sets his feet to uncork his mid-range jumper…Crowd pleaser with aggressiveness going to the rim, whether on the break or by going over the opponent…Shows good shooting for firing from behind the arc, demonstrating that sudden release and elevation connecting from the outside…Is quick and elusive with the ability to vary speeds…Has solid overall defensive skills and will not hesitate to draw a charge.

Negatives: Still in the developmental stage and could have used a few more years with the parent Joventut team to mature, but the organization is having financial issues, which contributed to Eyenga’s decision and he might be a strong candidate for the D-League…Has a high release point to get the ball over defenders, but pushes the ball quite a bit and needs to develop better rotation and accuracy and balance shooting from the perimeter…Still learning how to trust his off hand, is too predictable as a scorer, constantly favoring his right hand…Has excellent elevation, but will leave his feet early and doesn’t have natural timing as a rebounder…Was forced to play power forward and will need a few years to develop a well-round game on the wing, as his frame will never develop into an NBA type four-forward.

Compares To: NICOLAS BATUM, Portland — Eyenga needs time to acclimate to the NBA and also to playing on the wing. He has developing offensive skills, but could be a nice value pick for a team willing to nurture him by bringing him off the bench due to his defensive presence. He is more quick than he is fast, but has had good success playing the European, open-court style. He played more at power forward in Spain, but he lacks the size to play that position at the NBA level. He could put up points, contest a few shots and combat under the boards to become a vital reserve as a “4” in a small lineup or a regular wing player.

—Report by Dave-Te’ Thomas

by sether1 on Jun 25, 2009 9:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

needs to develop better rotation and accuracy and balance shooting from the perimeter

in other words, he needs to learn how to shoot.

awesome.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Jun 25, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We’re just using him to harvest body parts. We are going to chop off his arms and sew them onto one of our guards.

by Toxicadam on Jun 25, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was supposed to replace rubio on joventut
stats from last season:
2008-09 SEASON
Eyenga played in a total of 29 games; four with the DKV Joventut Badalona squad during Euroleague competition (replaced an injured Ricky Rubio on the roster) and 25 with the CB Prat Juventud team…Combined, he scored 335 points (11.6 per game), hitting 54.3 percent from two-point field goal range (100 of 184), 34.6 percent from 3-point territory (27 of 78) and 71.1 percent from the foul line (54 of 76) while logging a total of 774 minutes on the court…Charged with 65 personal fouls, but led the LEB-Silver Division with an average of 1.6 blocked shots per game (1.4 per game overall — 40 total blocks, including 39 in the LEB)…Grabbed 127 rebounds (4.4 per game), handed out 16 assists (0.6 per game) and had 27 steals (1.1 per game)…Scored in double figures in 18 of 25 games for Prat and twice had at least 10 rebounds.

by sether1 on Jun 25, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Compares To: NICOLAS BATUM, Portland

Sigh…. Damn it…

by Bernie19Kosar on Jun 25, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s young. At least we can develop him for the future.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 9:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I have to say I’m disappointed. I’m waiting to hear what Ferry says about the pick tomorrow.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 9:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

looks like no one wants young

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 9:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

young at 46?

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 9:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

probably not but we can hope

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Didn’t we trade 46 for Shaq?

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no
next years pick

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

on a technicality, the 2nd rounder got bumped to 2010

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what was the technicality I didn’t understand it

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not even sure to be honest

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Read the Windhorst article I linked to above.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you think we can we need a good trading chip

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i actually misspoke…i think this is a part of the “GET CHRIS BOSH IN 2010” plan…not now. i have no idea how we’d get him now, or how this pick plays into it.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought so cause do we really have a lot were willing to part with besides Gibson

by tarley on Jun 25, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like a pick up to me

after reading about him, he would be perfect for defending guys like Lewis and Hedo. Granted he will not play this year but I like the pick now. Seeing as how Young and Summers are dropping we might get then at 46.

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 9:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Summers to the Pistons.

by woodsmeister on Jun 25, 2009 9:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bye bye Sam

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 9:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he looks like he’s 44, not 24.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Jun 25, 2009 9:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Derrick Brown is still around

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 9:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bilas: “his arm got stuck on a piece of apparatus”.

what the shit is a piece of apparatus?

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by rolub on Jun 25, 2009 9:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate Bilas

by ahowie on Jun 25, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want to Convey that this draft sucks.

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 9:53 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Jon Brockman got drafted? Seriously?

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by rolub on Jun 25, 2009 9:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea he is a big body

Plus he breaks his nose a lot which is awesome (SARC)

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Red Wings select Jonas Jerebko, defenseman.

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by rolub on Jun 25, 2009 9:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL :)

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN’s comment: “Must improve: One-on-one game.”

Well, Detroit, better throw out all those clear-out plays you planned on scheming for him.

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by rolub on Jun 25, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chase is the worst player in the Draft.

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 10:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i thought we had drafted the nigerian nightmare … sadly we did not

by jsneides on Jun 25, 2009 10:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok, no one even that could remotely have a chance to make this team is still around.

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 10:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

er maybe Meeks be he will be gone or Ferry will pass on him.

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m hoping we select some coffee bean farmer from South America and claim that we’re going to stash him away for a few years too.

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by rolub on Jun 25, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I prefer

as Italian sausage maker with a sweet jumper but no speed.

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nick Cathales, Patrick Mills, Danny Green

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Calathes is an easy pick if he’s still there.

by ahowie on Jun 25, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently we disagree with stunning timing.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s what we thought about Young, too. Mr. Ferry doesn’t share our opinion, apparently.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Jun 25, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Calathas is not very good. I’d take both of the others over him.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet we take him because he is already commited to playing overseas.

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It didn’t even register with me about Green. I’d actually prefer Danny Green hands down.

by ahowie on Jun 25, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meeks

air apparent to Michael Redd.

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 10:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Christian Evenga chatted with ESPN.com after the draft:

Buzzmaster
Christian Evenga is here!

jason (columbus, ohio)
evenga, how do you feel about possibly playing with lebron in a few years?

Christian Evenga
It’s something that I take a lot of pride to have the chance to play with one of hte best players in the world. I know I will be able to learn a lot from him.

ryan
Will you be coming to the NBA right away?

Christian Evenga
I don’t want to burn any bridges. It will be a step by step thing. I will come when I’m ready.

Josh (Indy)
What position do you see yorself playing for he Cavs

Christian Evenga
Of course I will do whatever’s necessary to help the team, but I feel most comfortable playing the three.

Tim (Barrington)
Evenga, whatandapos;s going to be your biggest goal when you make your NBA debut in a few years?

Christian Evenga
The key thing would be to help the team to win the championship and be a part of it.

Kevin (NY)
Were you expecting to be drafted in the first round?

Christian Evenga
All of the players who were here were expecting to be drafted. Where? You don’t know. But I was looking forward to being drafted.

Christian Evenga
I am very grateful for the support. I would like you to continue to support me in the NBA. I will do my best to not disappoint anyone.

Buzzmaster
Christian was very cool. He was speaking through a translator. They both looked tired.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 10:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I was just putting the transcript together with bolded fonts and everything. You stole my moment.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry . . . I’m a jerk like that.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am very grateful for the support. I would like you to continue to support me in the NBA. I will do my best to not disappoint anyone.

This reads like one of those same emails.

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 25, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buzzmaster
Christian was very cool. He was speaking through a translator.

No way.

by Bernie19Kosar on Jun 25, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A stash pick for the Cavs. Ok, I guess. He was really AT the draft?

by dgcambridge on Jun 25, 2009 10:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, probably a big moment for him. I’ll bet he’s never been to the USA before.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This was a Spurs move by the FO. No big surprise.

by dgcambridge on Jun 25, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah that’s how they got Tony Parker.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vyacheslav Kravtsov is still around {SARC}

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 10:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you Detriot Chase is off the board. Chase is a Wally with out any skill.

Baseball is God's sport! All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist

by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 10:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Chase makes me think of Luke Jackson.

by dgcambridge on Jun 25, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep only worse

Baseball is God's sport! All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist

by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Calathes to Minnesota. Another PG?

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 10:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There are either going to be a number of trades from Minnesota or an interesting depth chart.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Calathes and Rubio staying overseas?

by ahowie on Jun 25, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m calling this next pic:

Nando De Colo

He’s from France so we can just deny him his Visa.

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 10:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There repeating BW’s post today: Cavs should add a “stretch” PF

by dgcambridge on Jun 25, 2009 10:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Danny Green. Fans should like this one.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 10:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Danny Green.

Heck of a pick,

by gahnki on Jun 25, 2009 10:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Like this pick. Better not hinder FA signings though

by ahowie on Jun 25, 2009 10:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Shouldn’t. Such is the flexability of the 2nd round pick.

by dgcambridge on Jun 25, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, Green is fun.

by dgcambridge on Jun 25, 2009 10:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Danny Green is a solid pick here.

Baseball is God's sport! All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist

by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 10:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ESPN’s graphic said Must Improve: Athleticism. How in the hell do you improve your athleticism? Isn’t that something you’re born with?

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 10:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yay, I know this guy cuz he played for UNC!

Ride on ye fearsome Horsemen of the Basketball Apocalypse. We got this.

by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 10:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think that’s what 90% of Cavs fans are thinking.

Now we get to hear about how he has a “winning mentality” because he’s from UNC and just won a national title, and that’s what is going to put the Cavs over the hump.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh, I’ll take it

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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I wasn’t criticizing the pick. I think he’s what you’d expect for the second round.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was criticizing the stupidity of sports reporting.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh I know, I’m just saying that in this case I can’t criticize at all because I know literally nothing about anyone in the draft unless they played for UNC, and only because my roommate is a tacit UNC fan and I totally sold out to jump on their bandwagon this year.

Ride on ye fearsome Horsemen of the Basketball Apocalypse. We got this.

by Turkmenbashi on Jun 25, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Danny Green is an excellent perimeter shooter

who stepped in as the teams best perimeter defender after Ginyard was lost for the season. If it was late in a game and the Heels need a big shot, outside of Ellington, the ball went to Green.

Between Ellington and Green, the Heels were never out of a game. They were a 2 minute span of hot shooting of getting themselves back into it.

As a Heels fan, if he makes the roster, I’m ordering a uni.

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 25, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now we get to hear about how he has a "winning mentality" because he’s from UNC and just won a national title, and that’s what is going to put the Cavs over the hump.

I’m pretty down with that.

by gahnki on Jun 26, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i’m good with danny green.

the more i think about eyenga, it’s gotta be a money thing. the cavs must be doing the same math that we were in another thread, and they see that their space under the projected 2010 cap is going to be SUPER tight as it relates to signing another max player (i.e. bosh).

stash this guy in europe and keep him off the books, and then i’m making a call right now…assuming next season is a good, playoff year, they will sell the first round pick…a la the lakers at 29. all with the intentional of saving every penny they can to get under the cap enough to sign a second max contract.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 10:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and then Eyenga will come off the bench to help Bron ‘n’ Bosh win it all. Championship number two for Bron. Count it

by ahowie on Jun 25, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Danny Green > Wally World

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 10:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bilas cutting down Taylor Griffin

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by E5 on Jun 25, 2009 10:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Danny Ferry interview coming up on ESPN.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 10:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

"We really believe, what was that kid's name again? Anyways, the guy

from the Congo will be able to help this franchise move forward. He was really someone we were hoping was on the board at 57. What? You mean we picked him in the first round? Who the hell did that?"

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 25, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bruno coming up on The Tonight Show.

Choices….

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Jun 25, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bilas: (re: Goran Suton) “He can play pick-and-roll, he can play pick-and-pop…”

Yes, but can he play basketball, Jay? That’s an important one.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Jun 25, 2009 10:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Completely forgot about Lester Hudson… would have liked to taken a flier on him.

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by rolub on Jun 25, 2009 10:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If you’re a sophomore and get drafted 54th, don’t you reconsider the voices of reason you listen to?

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by rolub on Jun 25, 2009 10:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Assuming you make the roster.

Just as there’s gained value in entering the draft as an underclassmen, there’s value lost by entering too early.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Jun 25, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not necessarily, many second round picks don’t make the team. The point is he probably could have been drafted higher next year if he stayed in school and got guarenteed money.

by Buckeye Brad on Jun 25, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I just realized Taylor Griffin was drafted. There literally have to be 100 guys with a better chance of becoming a pro basketball player than him. I can’t be persuaded otherwise.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Jun 25, 2009 10:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He is not good

by Roger Dorn on Jun 25, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he actually has a lot of ability when it comes to being not good at basketball

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 25, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Skills: Waving a towel and resembling a #1 pick

Needs to work on: Basketball

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Jun 26, 2009 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

areas for improvement: shooting, rebounding, defense, ball handling

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 26, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

These foreign selections are just getting ridiculous. Fran Frischilla was dead silent when asked about him because he couldn’t Google him fast enough.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Jun 25, 2009 10:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

theres no way danny green is worse than wally, i see him getting a few minutes, shaq wont play every game and now that ben is gone and andy is at PF im betting green gets minutes when lebron is resting and he might play some back up SG too, from what i can gather on google he can shoot and hopefully brown can teach him how to play D, i could see him becoming the best player out of the 2nd round…although thats not saying much for this draft

by CavsLebronFan on Jun 26, 2009 6:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Green is one of the best defenders in college. His shooting form is better but he still needs work.

Baseball is God's sport! All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist

by E5 on Jun 26, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

w/ sasha and wally gone, the cavs literally have ZERO size in the backcourt. green’s going to have to be able to put up some minutes.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 26, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Both were ineffective though, so their size really wasn’t important. The Cavs needed to upgrade from both those players if they are serious about winning a title

by Roger Dorn on Jun 26, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

without question. it’s not that those two were great, as much as they were warm bodies who were capable of giving you at least some minutes as larger guards. wally guarded lewis somewhat effectively in the post, if you’ll remember, and sasha was effective in game 2. now, there is seriously not one big guard option (except when you move LeBron over) on the roster.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 26, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

although, let me also say that while i agree that those two slots needed upgrading, i don’t think that has anything to do with being “serious” about taking home a ring. you’re probably right if we’re talking about building a dynasty, but it was quite easy to imagine this team winning a championship this past year w/ those guys getting 15 and 20 mpg.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 26, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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