Panic! Two losses in a row!
Last night, I was driving back from Columbus while the Cavaliers were getting manhandled by the Bobcats. I was picking up my daughter Charlotte for the weekend, so I got to hear the carnage through the voice of Joe Tait. (Incidentally, I kept ordering my daughter to stop scoring and let the Cavs win. She just rolled her eyes)
While the frustration mounted and Antawn Jamison kept missing shots, I'd change over to the CD player or XM Radio, only to find myself back with Joe Tait just a moment later. I couldn't pry myself away long enough, because I just KNEW that it was going to get better "any second now" and we'd be on to victory! That second never came, and we fell to Charlotte by double-digits.
This morning I arose and began checking the internets, looking for reaction.
With one glaring exception, Fear The Sword readers seem to have their heads on straight still. You seem to realize the same thing I realized....it's one game, it happens, we weren't going to finish the regular season on a 40-game win streak, yada, yada, yada. That attitude wasn't so prevalent in the other sites I explored.Being Cleveland sports fans, we're conditioned to expect disaster at the last minute. We've been so close so many times, only to have our championship visions crushed by the harsh light of reality.
- Red Right 88
- David Justice's home run in 1995
- "The Shot"
- John Elway's 98-yard drive
- Jim Chones' broken foot
- Earnest Byner's fumble
- Jose Mesa's 9th inning at Florida
- Orlando's 3-point shooting display
Who can truly blame us for turning into panic-stricken children when the good times take a detour? Haven't we been through enough misery already?
Being a fellow northeast-Ohioan, I too am prepared for the sky to fall at the worst possible moment. But trust me, Cavs fans....this is not the moment you should be overreacting to. The last 48 hours have been hard on the loss column and they've been tough to watch. But let's keep things in perspective here.
1) The Denver Nuggets are one of the top three teams in the NBA. We played them short-handed when we traded Zydrunas Ilgauskas away and we were unable to put his replacement, Antawn Jamison, in uniform. We also played somewhat injured, as Mo Williams was playing his first game in a month and wasn't at 100 percent. And it showed in the first quarter and a half, as we fell behind by 15 quick points, before playing the type of basketball we know we're capable of.
In the end, we got beat by a damn good team. And that's OK. We will respond properly, and hopefully we get to see those Nuggets again in the NBA Finals.
2) The Charlotte Bobcats aren't a great team, but they are a playoff team. Unfortunately, they seem to know how to beat us, taking the season series from the Cavaliers 3 games to 1. Every year there's one team from the middle of the pack that we just can't seem to conquer. It doesn't mean we should freak out though.
In the 2005-2006 season, the Cavs went 1-3 against the Washington Wizards, then drew that same team for the first round of the playoffs. We knocked off the Wizards 4-2 in the first round of LeBron James' first trip to the postseason. Regular season domination means a lot, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's guaranteed to continue in April, May or June.
3) Antawn Jamison went 0-for-12 and looked out of sync all night. Airballs, blocked shots, and an aura of embarrassment followed him all game long. But let's keep in mind that he will never have a worse game as long as he's a Cavalier. It can only get better, and it will get better.
Jamison knows as much about our playbook as I know about open-heart surgery. He had a mini-cram session and we thrust him into action before we should have. The experience will serve him well, and he'll be better prepared for Orlando tomorrow as a result. But we surely cannot claim that he's a terrible player based on 26 minutes of action. Blame the loss on him if you must (he did have a negative-17 in the +/- category and we did lose by 17 points), but do not go using that first-night jitter-saturated performance as a prognosticator of things to come.
And, no, we can't return him to Washington. But we can get a 14-million-dollar credit in the Wizards' team shop if you're that dissatisfied with your purchase.
4) Finally, the free throw shooting has been horrific, but you must accept that bad games will happen. No, you don't have to smile and get all Stepfordy about it, but you should also refuse to go the other way and claim that's it's the end of the road for this team. We'll have nights when we hit 95 percent from the line, and there's nights when we'll hit 55 percent from the line. It still averages out to 75 percent.
So take a deep breath. Relax. We still have several weeks of preparation for the playoffs to go, and the last time I checked, we were still the best team in the NBA.
Things that DID happen in the past 48 hours;
- The Cleveland Cavaliers lost a close game to the Denver Nuggets
- The Cleveland Cavaliers lost a rough game to the Charlotte Bobcats
Things that DID NOT happen in the past 48 hours;
- Antawn Jamison received secret transmissions from Gilbert Arenas, ordering him to miss wide-open shots as retribution for beating the Wizards in the playoffs multiple times
- Zydrunas Ilgauskas placed a Lithuanian curse on the Cavaliers for trading him away
- LeBron James called his agent and told him to sign with the Knicks because he wants to play on a good team, not some lame-ass team that's only 30 games over .500
- Mike Brown closed his eyes and chose substitutions from a drunken dartboard throw
Breathe, everyone. If you've got relatives who are near the edge of the cliffs of reality, send them to FTS. We'll boost their spirits again. We're the true thinking-man's Cavs site (and women's, sorry Emily).
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drunken dart board, i like that lol, will be pretty awesome seeing lebron and 4 forwards on the court
Nice feel good post but MB disagrees with you and I’ll definitely listen to him over you since he almost NEVER says anything negative in a post game….Check out the clip on FSOH of his post game…he sounded like he was in panic mode AND pissed off about defense AND offense
obviously he was upset. he might have sounded in panic mode but i highly doubt he actually WAS in panic mode.
and he should be…during that 13 game streak, they went to Shaq a LOT. He was the main reason for their success-not because he scored a lot, which he did by comparison to earlier in the season-but as a true 1st, 2nd or third option..the last quote below is a reference to that.on the offense…He wants the ball to go inside more to give the offense time to work the ball, to open the outside, and to open the lanes for drives…If the overwhelming majority of your offense is chucking up jumpers early in the clock, when they aren’t dropping,. you’ll get burned on fast breaks like last night…When was the last time a team doubled the Cavs in paint scoring?..It happened last night…maybe panic is the wrong word…he sounded like there was an urgent need to change before the bad habits become more permanent
by cavslandrocks on Feb 20, 2010 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
yes…sounds about right. I have a feeling he will try to emphasize that again in practice. I do agree we need to go inside to shaq. I didn’t watch the games (because I don’t live in cleveland anymore so I don’t get all the games) but I will take your word on it that this has been a problem.
I do think mike brown is worried but I just don’t think that he would be in a full out panic. what they do tomorrow will be key (i just looked and the game is on ABC…yes I can watch!!)
Great piece. Some fans are just bound to jump ship every time something looks a little bad, it’s because they’re afraid to be disappointed again. So after losses, they convince themselves we don’t have a shot anyway, so why set hopes high? That’s a terrible, cowardly way to be a sports fan. But living through the Cleveland sports history will do that to some, weaker hearted fans. It happens.
We’re still the best team in the NBA, and theres no reason to think it won’t stay that way. Of course, we’ll be a talking point for the cheap shot, quick jabbing media, looking for something other than the Olympics to talk about. We’ll hear the asinine question, “Will they recover?” or “Was it all a mistake?” Blah, blah, blah. Those people should be ignored for either their ignorance, stupidity, or opportunism.
Add Mike Brown
to your list of Ignorant. stupid, and opportunistic people who need to be ignored
“It’s really disappointing and embarrassing to play the type of defense we played tonight …”
“..We’ve got to get back to playing the right way, because we’re not…”
“I don’t care how you shoot the ball, we’re not a team that’s going to outscore everybody any time we step on the floor, and that’s the way we’ve been playing. We’ve been playing to outscore people, and that can’t happen”
by cavslandrocks on Feb 20, 2010 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
Brown is referring to two games, and nothing further.
There’s nothing wrong with admitting what went wrong and trying to fix it. But we need to stop short of calling it a disaster and claiming its all over.
I see no evidence of Brown panicking…just adjusting what’s wrong
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by Jeff at the BBC on Feb 20, 2010 12:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I totally agree.
This is how I look at it:
This is our lineup during most of that winning streak: Boobie, Parker, Lebron, Hickson, and Shaq with Andy Jawad and Z off the bench.
now we have Mo, parker, Lebron, Jamison (who is NEW to the team), Shaq with Andy, Delonte, and Jawad off the bench.
you are changing up your 8 man rotation significantly. granted most players are on your team but there will be some temporary, minor growing pains. mo might have come back a little too early, or maybe he is just extremely rusty (which is more likely). jamison officially was on the team only yesterday (got him 2 days ago but not official till the physical). we also got rid of Z.
this lineup will eventually gel. yes, it is disappointing and brown SHOULD be saying these things about the games, but no need to panic. hopefully we can regroup against orlando.
He’s referring to a trend that he wants stopped…they were doing it against NYK, NJN, the Heat…That’s five games…two of those should have been blowouts not nail biters…Brown isn’t stupid he just gives them room to play….sometimes too much.
If you know basketball at all, you know that you don’t have the biggest, strongest center in the League getting nine touches while the rest of your team shoots UNDER forty percent, AND you don’t let a guy stuff you SIX times without trying to get him on the bench with fouls drawn by driving straight at him instead of trying to go around him
by cavslandrocks on Feb 20, 2010 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
I totally agree with you. those games should not have been as close as they were.
I also (like I said above) have not seen exactly how many touches shaq has been getting. I agree it is a bad trend. I will feel confident if they play well tomorrow.
Nets = 3-5…Knicks = 8-13…ORL = 5-9…DEN = 9-15…CHA = 4-9…That’s 56%..average it out for 15 touches a game and you have 15/8 a game(he’s averaging 7 rebounds now, the extra touches SHOULD give him another on offense)
If Shaq is going to be called on for 25-30 min he needs to see the ball about 15 times/game…EVERY game….He’ll average a point per touch…how can anyone argue against that?
by cavslandrocks on Feb 20, 2010 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
and that doesn’t include his 50% on free throws…so add 2 points a game on average for that
by cavslandrocks on Feb 20, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
get your head out of your a@## and realize that mo and delonte are too short to play defense and remember how many games the cavs won when they were both injured…
Hey
Manners. Use them.
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by Jeff at the BBC on Feb 20, 2010 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
That too
I’ll address the idiocy of claiming that Mo and Delonte are bad defenders another time.
Or maybe I’ll go whack myself in the head with a hammer four or five times and begin to agree with him.
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by Jeff at the BBC on Feb 20, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
If you’re going to call “manners” you have to call them on all name calling, not just the ones you want to…I’ve been guilty a couple of times but I generally try to argue respectfully.
Calling someone Ignorant, stupid, cowardly, etc is no different than the above
by cavslandrocks on Feb 20, 2010 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
the difference as i saw it
The “ignorant” comment wasn’t directed at a specific person, but was speaking to people with a contrary position.
Rude? Maybe. Over the line? No.
But the “pull your head out of you ass”? That was over the line.
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by Jeff at the BBC on Feb 20, 2010 2:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
so it would be ok to make that “pull your head out” statement as a blanket statement..as long as I didn’t direct it AT anyone in particular?…If you are worried about content, ALL content is included…What I’m saying here is this:..IF you are going to play 3rd grade teacher then there is no contextual issue..it’s wrong or it’s right…I didn’t want you to censure someone for what was posted, I’m a big boy and can
by cavslandrocks on Feb 20, 2010 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
What I said was in an entirely different context. I’m surprised if you cannot honestly see that based on reading the two comments being compared here.
He’s only being the “third grade teacher” to the one acting like the third grader. I was stating an opinion based on observation, in a well structured manner. BirthTimes was being more of a troll. Does it bother me? Not really, but trolling can get annoying in excess. However, I know several people in positions to moderate SBN blogs that really don’t like the immature trolling, and will call it out, ask people to stop, or take some other action.
No, not at all
But I will also confess to being somewhat biased towards what constitutes a violation….
BirthTimes has 19 total posts, and most of them were of the angry, panic-stricken, attacking version.
I tend to let oldtimers and trusted users stray from the path of being cordial, but newcomers don’t get much leeway.
So I apologize if I didn’t request a more cordial tone towards you from Simmsinns, whom I do trust from knowing him at this site and my Ohio State one. If his comment offended you, I’m sure he meant well too.
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by Jeff at the BBC on Feb 20, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t mind it’s just that it’s the more open atmosphere of discussion that keeps me here as opposed to other places..Comments like the one Birth Times left are obviously looking for attention…no facts, just rants…best to starve those kind…so that makes me guilty of “feeding the troll”
No need to apologize-I’m not offended…
by cavslandrocks on Feb 20, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
You need to re-read my comment more carefully.
My “ignorance, stupidity, or opportunism” comment was referring to any media outlet that might try to cling to the losses as way to prove that we’re no longer the best team.
My “cowardly” comment was referring to the way a specific type of fan reacts to a bad loss. If you think we’re in trouble based on the last two games (of a 82 game season, mind you), and are going to jump ship and assume we don’t have much of a shot at the Finals because of it, that way your not disappointed… then yes, I’m referring to you. If any of that doesn’t describe the kind of fan you are, then no, I’m not referring to you.
and I pointed out that MB is quite worried over a trend that started BEFORE the All-Star break…
And I know you couldn’t be referring to me in a knowledgeable manner as I’ve been a Cavs fan since they played at the old Cleveland Arena…I was referring to the lack of smart basketball..id est: the spotty use of inside scoring when it is needed most, and the lack of physical defense that has been the trademark of this team since MB arrived
I think the CAVS have an excellent chance of making the Finals IF they don’t go Jekyll and Hyde like last year against Orlando..You and all the media can point to “matchups” all day long, but in the close games that they lost, they played like two different teams in the first and second halves…If you recorded them go back and watch…they went from a driving on offense, hard nosed man defensive team in the first half to a jump shooting, play them loose help D in the second half
by cavslandrocks on Feb 20, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
so is Z really gonna come back like
everyone says? are the Cavs in the process of getting him back?
by inquisitiveman on Feb 20, 2010 12:48 PM CST reply actions
Yes/No
Yes, it looks increasingly like we might see him again.
No, we cannot begin any process of getting him back. He belongs to the Washington Wizards and that would be tampering with another team’s player. Very very illegal. If they waive him, then we can start the process
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by Jeff at the BBC on Feb 20, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
Magic fan here
…No reason for you guys to lose it. It was a bad couple of nights, but it’s an 82 game season, and thus far you guys are winning the race. It will be interesting to see how quickly Jamison can get worked into the system. When I saw that trade announced, that was the only thing I could think of to find solace in “maybe it won’t work”..but the reality is that he’s proven over his career how valuable he can be. If I can remain optimistic about my teams chances, given some of that downright awful performances at times, you guys should easily be able to do it. The Cavs are pretty loaded right now, and Jamison “should” be able to get into the flow of things by the time it matters. I of course am hoping he doesn’t but you should allow him more than 1 game to determine a verdict…cheers, and here’s to hoping we can see you in ECF again.
Exactly
Thank you
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by Jeff at the BBC on Feb 20, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
I agree, but with a little regret....
Jamison is a proven pro and will be just fine. Today (Saturday) will be his first practice with the Cavs.
I still regret that Steve Kerr wanted to drag out the Amare deal until the final hour, much like he did last season with Shaq and then decided he didn’t want to make a deal. Ferry was smart to make the move for Jamison for that reason alone. I just think Amare is more of a banger inside and a much more dominating force than Jamison.
On the flip side of that, when we hear Doc Rivers and Phil Jackson complaining about Cleveland being able to get Jamison for basically nothing if we get Z back, then you have to believe we did the right thing.
Funny
Doc Rivers and Phil Jackson should be the last ones to try and judge judge what’s fair and what isn’t. They both got unfair trades that resulted in championships.
Them talking about things being unfair is like Tiger Woods giving a lecture on having a good marriage.
amen to that
though to be fair, in Orlando we’ve never been on the receiving end of a great/unfair deal so BOO to all of you…
great GMs pull of Great Deals…’nuff said.
Smith is solid but he has had his mistakes.
2006 He drafted reddick.
He did draft courney lee who was a solid player…then trade him though for ryan anderson who has been horrific since mid december.
he DID get rashard lewis, gorcat, and Petrius.
he also traded away for Darko when he could have had rodney stuckey (or wilson chandler) in the draft.
He is one of the better GMs in the league though, IMO. I will give him that.
he is much better than his predecessor….who drafted fran vazquez who is still in europe instead of danny granger…and this was 2005…and the guys is still in europe.
he also traded Varejao and drew gooden for 2 late 2nd round picks.
he also had one of the only misses (reese gaines) in the lebron draft…he passed on david west josh howard, and travis outlaw for a guy who played in only 3 seasons.
so now
a loophole that allows a trade like this to happen is a negative reflection on another GM? I’d be curious to hear that explained…
Also, he didn’t trade Courtney Lee for Ryan Anderson, it was Rafer Alston, and Courtney Lee for Vince Carter, and Ryan Anderson. And since when is a shooter in a slump a negative reflection on the front office? Again, I would like to hear that explained…
I’m not the biggest Otis supporter, but he’s done a good job. He’s created an incredibly deep roster, that is capable of beating any team in the NBA in a 7 game series…that about all we can ask.
You mention the mistakes made by his predecessor(s)…the Magic have almost never had a good GM. Like I said above, I’m not the biggest Otis supporter, but he’s been the best GM i can remember ever having here in Orlando…
Yes. I agree. I am not saying otis is at all bad…
On the trade, yeah. I forgot. Still, I am lukewarm. with vince carter, you are not getting vince carter of a few years ago. you are also not at all getting what you payed for. carter is taking 16-17 shots a game and barely shooting above 40% from the field.
and with anderson…he has kind of been in a season long slump. after his 6 games as a starter, he is shooting UNDER 40% from the field. he had a halfway decent december (but still declining a bit) but since 2010 happened he has been pretty dreadful. in january he shot less than 40% from the field. in february it drops to 25% and less than 20% from downtown. He just doesn’t seem to be that good honestly.
He is a jump shooter that doesn’t shoot well. on here, we criticized sebastian telfair as a shooter. He is not a good shooter at all. in fact, his career FG% is not much worse than Anderson’s. they are both pretty bad. anderson is a shooter who can’t shoot. the fact is that they traded for him…
It is very similar with the cavs. we had jim paxon as our predecessor whose only good move (besides NOT passing on lebron) was ripping Otis’ predecessor off, probably just by dumb luck. the teams put together were just dreadful.
I do agree thought that Otis has done a good job. I do agree it is a good team, but I would not call the Magic incredibly deep. I will admit that it is a team with very good depth, but they are still behind the Lakers and the Cavs IMO. they are definitely ahead of all other playoff teams though…
I would be surprised
if you didn’t think that…the Carter trade was admittedly a very risky one, and we’ll only be able to properly evaluate it after the playoffs are over…I can’t say that I was in love with that trade, more than anything because it meant parting with Courtney Lee, and you’re right about us not getting the Carter of 3 years ago. Otis was in a tough spot on this one. Turk was not going to resign, and the Magic aren’t in a position to make a run at anyone in the upcoming free agent class, so what do you do? If you do nothing, then you’ve taken a step back, and lost one of your best scoring options, and aren’t likely to compete with the top teams in the east. There really weren’t many other “better” options out there. Carter was kind of an all or nothing type deal, a ballsy move that may pay dividends or may set us back….his ability to perform in the 4th qtr of playoffs games will be the deciding factor of how well this trade will be remembered…
as to the depth, I think the Magic are as deep as anyone, but SVG still hasn’t found the right mix. Any fan that says otherwise is just being a blind homer…Brandon Bass is wasting on our bench, but my hope is that by the playoffs that will be figured out. There are plenty of options as to where the scoring will come from, but it’s finding the right mix to counter a larger front court that will be most crucial. Rashard cannot match up with big 4, but Gortat is big downgrade offensively…We’ll see ow it all plays out, but for now I’m remaining hopeful that our rotation will be solidly in place come April..
I am not a fan of the carter trade for good reason. he is not scoring well at all. I find it funny that people think sebastian telfair is horrible when he shoots a little under .400 from the field, whereas when vince carter shoots .403, he is still a good shooter. it is okay when a guy shoots at that clip and is only taking a few shots (a la ryan anderson) but when this player is taking almost 15 shots a game shooting at that clip? that hurts the offense. maybe thats just me and I am old school and I want my shooters to be able to shoot.
Rafer Alston’s PER last year was 15.6. Carter’s is 16.9. slightly better but not that much better. also, you have to consider that carter takes a lot more shots so he WILL get a higher PER b/c of that. granted alston isn’t a good shooter either. Still, VC does not play D as well as alston.
also, I looked up VCs numbers, and his shooting % drops 30 points in the playoffs and 40 points from behind the arc. if you subtract those from his current stats he will shoot .370 from the field and slightly under .300 from behind the arc… he has never been good in the playoffs and has never been a good player in the clutch either.
I agree brandon bass is a good player. Like i said, I think the orlando magic are the 3rd deepest team in the league. they are one of the few teams that can go 10-11 deep well. the cavs, if need be, can go almost 15 deep. I am not a huge fan of anthony johnson. he is the 12th guy on the magic bench. I would much rather have danny green, sebastian telfair, or darnell jackson…
but these are not guys getting major minutes though. arguing whether the magic are the best or one of the best benches in the league is somewhat pointless IMO. they have an excellent bench
it's generally
not a good sign, when the best additions to the squad are “role” players, but that seems to be the case right now as Matt Barnes, and Jason Williams have IMO been the two most productive additions to the squad. I won’t pretend like I love Carter, and his production because I don’t…If I had a dollar for every time I yelled “stop shooting” at my TV when Carter gets the ball I’d be a rich man. I think any knowledgeable fan knew when Carter was coming in that there would have to be a shift in his game in order to make the deal effective…We haven’t seen that yet, though he has begun to take the ball to the rim more often, which is what he was brought here to do…Carter firing up 3s is frustrating to watch, because we have a team full of sharp shooters. The Magic didn’t sign a guy like him to be another perimeter threat. All in all I’d rate the Magic at about a B- right now. They need to do some work to figure out who plays when, and where, and some of the guys (Pietrus Anderson) need to remember what their game is…I’m hopeful that Carter will fill the position that’s needed, and not what he thinks is needed, even though stats and history wouldn’t seem to back up that hope…I guess that’s why we’re fans though, hoping for a different outcome, when the past tells you otherwise. That’s something I’m sure you guys can get behind
That was what I would say too. a B- is fair.
I do like additions like Barnes and Williams too.
Not that carter is a bad player. he is best though when driving to the rim…the problem is that the carter of the last few years turned into a (much better albeit) version of Larry Hughes circa when he was on the cavs (and somewhat today). when the cavs traded for him, they thought they were getting a slashing scorer. after one injury, he turned into Laura Hughes. he was afraid of driving to the hole. Carter is not afraid, however the last few years he has fallen in love with his jump shot way too much.
lol…yeah. I love the bit about thats why we’re fans. hoping lebron will stay…hoping this team can win the championship to keep him…
Explain why the magic let Turk walk
Seriously Hedo + Lewis + Alston completely murdered the cavs last year, the front line of Howard, Lewis, Turkoglu was a nightmare matchup that sent the magic to the finals. Why did turk bolt
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he wanted more
than Orlando could offer him. He wanted to be the number one guy, and get a top contract. The Magic couldn’t offer either…For some reason a lot of people thought that the Magic let Hedo walk, but that wasn’t the case. He wanted to leave, and there wasn’t too much Orlando could do about it.
that’s a crock…and this is drawn from info from past Sentinel articles..he got his 10 million for 5 years which ORL COULD have given him, but Otis had to show him who was boss…Once Smith went public with his “not gonna do it” stance Hedo’s mind was made up for him..I can understand Smith’s reservations about giving 10M a year to a guy who would be 35 in his final year, but to give a 33 (36 in his final year) year old Carter essentially the same money for THREE years (third year IS a team option) was just plain foolish, not to mention giving up Lee and Alston…Break it down numbers wise…Turk+Lee+Alston=64 million over the life of their contracts with ORL and they produce 32/9/8 on avg this year , Carter a possible 51M but a sure 34M…for 16/4/3…look what they lost in points, rebounds, and assists…now add to this Smith trying to screw Gortat, who DID want to leave and ORL stuck themselves with another 30M over 5 years…definitely NOT a team that was as cash strapped as they played with Turk now is it?…AND one more thing…why not use that 7 M trade credit at the deadline to improve…it would cost them no one and they had two open roster spots…definitely not a smart move since that 7M won’t get them much in the FA market this summer
by cavslandrocks on Feb 21, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
I understand amare might be more dominant in the post than jamison but there are several factors that make me think we made the right move.
1. He plays in a run, gun, and fun offense that give little care about D and he is the primary scorer. it was unclear if he would take the “second fiddle” role. jamison has taken it in the past. Jamison’s main goal really is winning a championship.
2. the steve nash effect: amare has the best point guard in the league passing to him. with most elite PGs, there is an effect. steve nash has the biggest one in the league right now, at making his team better…look at players before during and after they play with nash. they put up better shooting and better points WITH nash. in fact jamison had his best season, winning 6th man of the year, in 2003-2004 when he was with dallas…on the same team where nash played and had a spectacular passing season.
3. Range. Jamison has great range on his shot. amare can shoot the occasional 18 footer uncontested well but he is not yet reliable. jamison can shoot contested shots from just about anywhere on the floor. he is hard to guard because if you play him loose, he shoots over you, if you play him tight, he can slash to the weak side, and he can also post up.
4. Range also. The one problem with hickson is that he doesn’t shoot many shots outside of the post (especially the low post). the problem with this is coupling him with shaq (or andy) you have 2 guys who are really only low post scorers. Defenses can slack off them a little and cheat to the basket. because of this, the lane gets clogged up and lebron cannot drive to the hoop as well. with jamison, he is comfortable on the wing and you can place him there and run an Iso and get a clear lane for lebron to drive. Imagine us playing the lakers and drawing pau gasol to the wing…lebron can just dominate.
imagining amar’e on this team was fun, but the mix we have in our frontcourt now is nice. JJ has shown he can provide some of that Shaq / Amar’e tenacity when finishing strong around the basket. Jamison is a master of crashing the offensive glass and getting those tip in rebounds like pau gasol. man I wouldn’t want to be an NBA coach that has to gameplan against the cavs right now. Especially once Z comes back, Look out.
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No worries
I’m not worried at all! Jamison was pressing and the Cavs had just played a in overtime the night before. 2 of the 3 losses to the Bobcats have been the 2nd night of a back to back so, honestly i’m not as worried about the Bobcats as most people are. They just can’t hang with a team like the Cavs in a 7 game series. It’s easy to use single games like it’s their championship but, playoffs are a lot different. Plus, the Bobcats swept the Lakers last year and Lakers won the championship. I’m actually hoping we play the Bobcats in the 1st round because, i honestly think they wouldn’t get more than 1 win.
The only thing i worry with the Cavs is free throw shooting but, they have a lot of good shooters so, i think it’ll be fine. It’s going to not look good sometimes because, Shaq shoots quite a few free throws. Other than that though i’m not worried one bit. There aren’t any perfect teams Lakers and Cavs included.
This team is way better than last year and that team was pretty good. Let’s be honest only teams we have to worry about are Orlando and the Lakers and we have shown we now match up well with both of them so, we shouldn’t be worried.
GO CAVS!!!
simply
give it a week or two. 3 weeks tops. and the cavs will look even more dominate than before. and if they dont look good. then its time to panic. lol
I think
The Cavs may be set back a little by Big Z not being there. He really ate up a lot of offensive boards and can shoot long rang. Z will probably be back in 30 days, but at what cost? The guy Danny wanted was Amare but he got the bargin Amare.
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
Things that DID NOT happen in the past 48 hours;
* Antawn Jamison received secret transmissions from Gilbert Arenas, ordering him to miss wide-open shots as retribution for beating the Wizards in the playoffs multiple times
* Zydrunas Ilgauskas placed a Lithuanian curse on the Cavaliers for trading him away
* LeBron James called his agent and told him to sign with the Knicks because he wants to play on a good team, not some lame-ass team that’s only 30 games over .500 (that’s my favorite)
* Mike Brown closed his eyes and chose substitutions from a drunken dartboard throw
Hahaha!
I don’t want to face the Bobcats in the playoffs, but I think we would be able to beat them in a playoff series. Winning against Orlando tomorrow would be nice.
"Regular season domination means a lot, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's guaranteed to continue in April, May or June."
AGREED!
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