Game #64 - Cleveland Cavaliers at Milwaukee Bucks Game Night Open Thread
by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Mar 6, 2010 7:00 PM CST
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2009/2010 NBA Regular Season
VS
32-29 49-14
March 6, 2010
Bradley Center
8:30 PM et
Radio - WTAM 1100 / FSOhio
Probable starters:
John Salmons
PG
Mo Williams
Brandon Jennings
SG
Anthony Parker
Carlos Delfino
SF
Jawad Williams
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute
PF
Antawn Jamison
Andrew Bogut
C
J.J. Hickson
After a tough victory over the Pistons - in more ways than one - the Cavaliers head right back on the road with a trip to Wisconsin for a battle with the surprising Bucks. Despite having won 6 straight games, the Bucks are actually the hottest team in the Central Division, winners of 8 of their last 10. Over their last 7 games, the Bucks have gone 6-1 with big wins over the Knicks(17), New Orleans(20), Miami(23) and a home and home sweep of the Wizards, beating Washington on the road by 28 last night.
For the Cavaliers, they turned what looked to be a blowout into a big win last night at The Q. Looking flat and lethargic early on, the Cavaliers fell behind by 21 points in the 2nd quarter before rallying to win 99-92. Cleveland didn't lead the Pistons until Antawn Jamison his a 3 to start the 4th quarter, giving the Cavaliers a 71-70 lead. LeBron James scored 40 points on Mike Brown's 40th birthday, but was once again hobbling after rolling an ankle. At some point it might be nice for James to sit on out, now that the Cavaliers have a 6-game lead in the East, and a 3 game lead over the Lakers for best record in the NBA - and home court advantage throughout the playoffs - with 18 games to go after tonight.
3-in the Key
1. At 49-14 (.778), Cleveland owns the NBA's best record and leads the league with highest point differential at +7.5. The team is 23-6 (.793) in 2010, which is the best mark in that span, and has won six straight games for the third time this season. The Cavaliers have won 13 of its last 17 road games and at 22-10 (.688), their road record is tied with Boston for the best in the NBA. LeBron James leads the league this season in scoring on the road at 31.0 ppg.
2. The Cavaliers will face five Central Division opponents in the next eight games. Cleveland has defeated Milwaukee six consecutive times, including the last three at the Bradley Center. The team is 7-1 (.875) against their division this season and holds a commanding 16.0 game lead over Milwaukee, the largest division lead in the NBA.
3. The last time the team faced the Bucks, Delonte West scored a season-high 21 points and scored 14 points during a 29-0 first-half run for the Cavaliers. The Cavs defense forced Milwaukee to miss 12 straight shots to start the second quarter and went 11:22 without a point, which became the longest streak in the NBA that one team has kept another scoreless.
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I agree…but Lebron means a hell of a lot more to us than Pierce does to the C’s…and I still think that The Lakers are still a good deal better than the Cavs w/o Kobe than we are w/o LB…
Plus, we effectively have no center. Still, we’ll see.
by johnnyphoenix on Mar 6, 2010 7:18 PM CST up reply actions
Time to see...
just how valuable Jamison is. He was a one-man wrecking crew against the Cavaliers several times with the Wizards
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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Mar 6, 2010 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
Ironic….I write in the Open Thread that it might be time to give LeBron a rest and look what happens…
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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Mar 6, 2010 7:17 PM CST reply actions
As good a time as any would be now since we need to have him healthy for the final stretch to ensure the best record going into the playoffs…
by johnnyphoenix on Mar 6, 2010 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
OK, I'm ready
Let’s DO THIS!
Win without LeBron and as a result, tell Charles Barkley to shut the fuck up!
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Right off the bat
We see the inside weakness that is JJ Hickson
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Please, get Andy in there?
JJ has no desire to block out or rebound
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man, playing right into the bucks hands…Mo’s killin us right now…all we have is perimeter shots and they’re gettting right into the paint…Poor decision making…
I won't use the excuses that Faker and Tragic fans use
We win as a team and we lose as a team.
I know that we have our top two scoring threats out, but we still have to begin showing ability to play without them.
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
Says the guy who
regularly claims “it doesn’t count because of back-to-back blah blah blah”
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
I've never made excuses for losing games. Cleveland is up 2-1 in the season series.
That means you guys have beaten us twice and we have only beat you once. When the Cavs were 2-0 vs us, everyone in the country was saying that Orlando has zero chance of beating the Cavs in the playoffs. People that think games before the post-season matter at all come playoff time just annoy me. The game we play up in Cleveland will have no bearing on what happens in a potential playoff series between our two teams.
It just seems you go out of your way to insult anyone who isnt a Cavs fan.
…and you’re here to play pinochle with us tonight?
What do you want, exactly? I’m guessing you saw Lebron was out and that we were losing and you wanted to partake.
by johnnyphoenix on Mar 6, 2010 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
i was box score watching as i usually do when nba games are on
i was in here the other night walking to wave ocean during the pistons game
it's not like my first post said:
“staying classy, I see – while your team is losing by 15 to Milwaukee”
Ok fine. I saw that. Let’s not get back into that crap right now. You and Jeff will have plenty of time to discuss.
Moving on.
by johnnyphoenix on Mar 6, 2010 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
yo jeff, im not making an excuse, im just including the fact that (AND) shaq is out also, not just lebron so it is going to take some time to find the offensive options
Didn't think you were, bro
Sorry that it sounded like that
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
Dammit, Antawn
Free throws are freaking FREE
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One good possession, one bad for AJ
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:08 PM CST up reply actions
Wow, Ohioans
Call me whatever you want, but now I truly see your King’s greatness. While far from the scrubs that made the trip to the finals, they to me look like deer in headlights, like sheep without a shepherd. I know it’s just the start of the game, but I truly feel like that. LeBron is like that guy from Heroes, the one that amplifies powers, only he has the powers of Nathan and Sylar as well. Better hope you indeed keep him, Ohioans.
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Wow
13 minutes of game play and you’re ready to declare the apocalypse?
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
LOL
Cool man.
That’s actually a paraphrase of a line my friends and I used to say a lot. I don’t have the sarcasm font yet on this computer.
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
Soon to be more?
Delonte’s going Buck-hunting
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
10-0
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
13-0 run
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
15-0
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, hey
Not panicking, not foretelling the apocalypse, just really a complement to LeBron really.
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THATS a foul???
But Bogut knocking Delonte down wasnt?
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Because
Varejao is one of the dirtiest players in the game.
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Perfect!!!
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
Shooting this quarter
89 percent
8-for-9, after going 6-for-21 in the first quarter.
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Switching back and forth
between Ohio State women’s basketball (Big Ten Tourney) and Cavs/Milwaukee.
Both arenas chanting “Let’s Go Bucks”. It’s amazing how much I can love one of those and hate the other.
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Technical foul on Varejao
How do you say “that’s bullshit” in Portugese?
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Has Jamison
Ever tried, I don’t know, being orthodox once in a while? I know his M.O are those unorthodox shots, and he is very good at it, but it seems he can score a lot easier if he didn’t make things harder for himself…
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whats up with the horn in the stands? i thought there was a rule against “artificial noise making devices” in the nba? am i wrong?
I thought so too
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
Milwaukee has now gone 6:59
without a made FG
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Almost
There’s nobody here declaring the overall jaw-dropping dominance of Joe Johnson, while in the midst of a 7-minute drought.
THAT would make it like a Hawks game
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
it's funny, because he scores the most points on a semi-decent team in the league
some team is going to pay him max money this summer when they dont get lebron/bosh/wade
josh smith is the mvp of the hawks this year, and unless JJ has a monster game, he isnt usually the 2nd most important player on their team either, it is Jamal Crawford. Since he is pretty much their entire bench, if he struggles, the team struggles.
100 percent true
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
there are a ton of players who are going to get contracts they do not deserve
because so many teams have money to spend, they will more likely than not spend it on players who are complimentary, and not nearly worth the mega-investment
Antawn is doing Shaq's job
Unfortunately, it’s at the free throw line
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Antawn with the And-none
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah mo has been a serious liability tonight. Glad to see Jamison step it up.
Varajao has been huge on Bogut so far…
Free throws still atrocious. THAT pisses me off more than anything.
by johnnyphoenix on Mar 6, 2010 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
I worry about Mo
Is he doomed to be another Jameer Nelson, not quite himself after the shoulder injury?
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His accuracy
Or lack thereof, has never been like this.
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as a local Magic expert
I will say that Jameer was not really affected by his shoulder injury (though he obviously wasn’t ready to play in the Finals last season.) He was injured again early in the season (knee this time). Once he came back he struggled with his shot, but after getting back into game shape (took about a month) his shooting numbers have been steadily rising. He has been playing very well lately.
and as johnnyphoenix said
Williams has always pretty much been a streak shooter.
Magic Mark
I owe you an apology.
I had you confused with another commenter here, in regards to the excuses for Orlando/Cleveland games.
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It's ok.
I’m a big boy. =)
I just enjoy basketball. Don’t like seeing my favorite team put down unnecessarily. Have a semi-chip on my shoulder due to the way Orlando’s trip to the Finals last year was pretty much dismissed as a fluke…..I could go on for a long time but im sure you get the idea.
I like talking/discussing basketball with anyone who will. I’m in espn’s DDL chats almost every night when I don’t go to games.
Very cool
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
Dammit
New Jersey whipping their neighbors bad. I want to see history made, dammit.
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Been watching this one on nbatv as I can't watch other games due to no league pass.
NJ has been on fire from three. 12-22 currently. Most 3 pointers they have made in a game so far this year.
Knicks are 0-16 from long range, and get booed by their crowd every time they miss another one.
Now THERE'S a team LeBron is dying to play for
So we’re told
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
nets are looking good tonight!
he might go there!!
i can’t even type that with a straight face haha
Jamison and Delonte
scored 27 straight points for the Cavs tonight.
All of the points in the second quarter, until Mo’s shot with 5 seconds left, can be attributed to them.
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That was the night the rivalry changed hands
Game 6 was just the dagger through the heart of the Pistons
It hasn’t been the same since.
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
Orlando finally got over the Piston curse too.
We won the season series from them this year for the first time since the 99-00 season. We did lose a game to them up in Detroit early in the year too. I hate the Pistons more than any team ever because of what they did to my poor Magic.
I've had a long-term anger for them
Since Rick Mahorn went out to halfcourt and elbowed Mark Price in the temple after Price brought it upcourt and passed it to Ehlo.
Uncalled for, no foul called, and Price sat out for a long time with a head injury.
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
I cannot be on here tonight, due to chores and dinner
I’m happy to see everyone coming through and filling up the thread tonight! Stepping up in someone’s absence…that’s what the Cavs are about, right?
Oh and…are undermanned teams just more dangerous?
Yeah, you were all alone last night mostly
I was on the road driving from Columbus.
Got in the house just in time to see the sideline issues with Stuckey
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:49 PM CST up reply actions
Orlando seems to lose to teams who are missing good player(s).
Boston beat us in Orlando without Pierce. Indiana beat us without Granger. Wizards beat us without Arenas. Portland beat us without BRoy.
I'm watching Miami and Atlanta
And I wonder now, if Crawford would have been a good fit, instead of, let’s say, AP
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Another 4 point play
When will the madness end?
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and Jamal Crawford is not a complete jackass
So there’s two bonuses
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
Never mind
Had a brainshart. Get it now.
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Yes
Miller in a game last week was complaining that a player faked getting fouled after a shot.
Reggie freaking Miller actually said that
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
I have to say.
I am not much a fan of Reggie Miller as a commentator. I think I saw the game where he said that too. If I recall correctly, the guys at halftime gave him some grief for saying it. (Kenny/Charles etc.)
Yeah
and Mike Fratello did too
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
Are you kidding me?
He’s very amusing. I like his little quips. “Anderson Varejao, welcome to your Kodak moment!”
“Dwyane Wade, welcome to your Kodak moment! Click, click Dwyane!”
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There are lots of people I'd rather listen to.
Usually the conclusions he draws about players are so off base that he sounds like he isn’t very intelligent.
No question about that. But entertainment-wise
He is top notch.
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It appears
Danny Ferry may need to upgrade the PG position soon, but that’s another tale to be told. CP3, anyone?
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Back to 13 points
They look exactly like they did in the first quarter
And I think its because Anderson and Delonte arent in
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Right away
Anderson passes to Delonte, foul on Bogut.
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
Never mind
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 9:07 PM CST up reply actions
Still the Antawn/Delonte show
35 of the last 39 points belong to those two
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Starting guards shooting 12.5 percent
Better start lighting it up now, Mo and Parker
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Where the hell is Boobie
Someone remind him only females produce breast milk.
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So far
The Cavs have 15 points from players not named Antawn or Delonte
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We found the horn blower!
Fat kid in the stands
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TV just scanned the stands
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 9:28 PM CST up reply actions
It is seriously time for the Cavaliers to sit Mo Williams….
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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Mar 6, 2010 9:28 PM CST reply actions
It is seriously time for Ferry to think of upgrading the 1
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The guy came up small..
in the playoffs last year, and is coming up small since his shoulder injury. There is ZERO reason, once Boobie comes back to the team for him not to get minutes…
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by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Mar 6, 2010 9:30 PM CST up reply actions
The guy came up small..
in the playoffs last year, and is coming up small since his shoulder injury. There is ZERO reason, once Boobie comes back to the team for him not to get minutes…
This.
by johnnyphoenix on Mar 6, 2010 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
Mo’s shooting is gravy…not the turkey…so to speak.
by johnnyphoenix on Mar 6, 2010 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
Andy has arrived
His hustle was always there, now he’s scoring
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Backtracking a little
Did they confiscate the fat kid’s horn?
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Mini-Rodman needs to be put on his ass
Only problem is, who’s gonna try?
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Jennings
He has this adorable little orange stripe down his head
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by Jeff at the BBC on Mar 6, 2010 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
Little question here....
Ummmm….why the hell hasn’t Antawn Jamison attempted a shot in the fourth quarter?
We have GOT to create plays for guys who are 11-for-18
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what do you do with a starting point guard who cant penetrate, cant defend, and hasnt had more than 10 assists in a game all year?
Letting LB rest is not throwing games away.
by johnnyphoenix on Mar 6, 2010 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
At any rate
Be easy, children. For you still lead the Lakers in the standings.
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No one said no LBJ = guaranteed loss. I think they did a decent job of displaying that tonight…no matter how disappointed we are with the outcome.
I would have started Varajao tonight, though.
by johnnyphoenix on Mar 6, 2010 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
All things considered…our best player is out., 3 of our starters…and we have in essence NO center. I’ll take this one on the chin and be ok with it. This might be conjecture, I am aware, but if LBJ plays we win rather handily against a team that is not bad by any means.
Exactly. I doubt he really benefited all that much from resting the entire game rather than just dressing him, and playing him just enough to win tonight. (We’re still talkin 1/3 his usual minutes, which is a considerable rest.)
Basically, we could have won and still gave LBJ a decent rest. Instead we needlessly lost it, by our own fault. (I don’t give much credit to the Bucks tonight. They’re streaky, that’s it.)
Actually, I think we disagree on this point.
by johnnyphoenix on Mar 7, 2010 1:21 AM CST up reply actions
I like resting lebron.
There’s no reason to think we can’t easily win best record with or without him whenever we decide to play or not to play him.
by johnnyphoenix on Mar 7, 2010 1:29 AM CST up reply actions
I just think we forget we’re without a center.
by johnnyphoenix on Mar 7, 2010 1:30 AM CST up reply actions
you guys enjoy the preview of what a Lebron-less 2010-2011 cavs would look like? Instant 8th seed.
Trade Mo and every draft pick between now and the end of time for CP3 this offseason.
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you guys enjoy the preview of what a Lebron-less 2010-2011 cavs would look like?
Not going to be an issue so I’m not particularly concerned.
by johnnyphoenix on Mar 7, 2010 1:19 AM CST up reply actions
…I’d still be a Cavs fan w/o Lebron anyways…just to say. I was before, and as much as I hate to think it…I will be after.
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