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Game # 5 - Cavaliers 96-Chicago 94 - A Series Win, or: Good Things...Gone Bad?

This game set a record, in fact it took absolutely zero seconds to come up with this record:  never has a playoff victory, in any sport, especially a series deciding victory, felt so bad, or left me with more questions, than tonight's victory does, and tonight, of all nights, rather than five seconds of an interview after the game with LeBron, TNT had to immediately switch to La-La Land for the mighty Lakers' game.  Maybe you lucky ones in Ohio got to see a little post-game chat with LBJ, but here in Pa., at least...no such luck.

First off (and second off, and third off, as well) I want to know that LeBron will be able to go this weekend when we begin our second-round series against the Celtics.  When it came down to LBJ shooting a free throw left-handed in the final ten seconds, the groans far outweighed the cheers, even as the Cavaliers pulled out an ugly 96-94 victory over the Chicago Bulls to capture their first-round series, four games to one.

All of the things that arise during a season to cast doubt on how far a team can really go arose tonight.  There was, once again, atrocious foul shooting, especially in the first half for Cleveland...thank goodness that the Cavaliers' malaise at the line seemed to infect the Bulls, as well, especially down the stretch (except for Derrick Rose, who was as cool as a cucumber from the line).

And there was, in my humble opinion, a healthy dose of help from the referees, especially during a sequence wherein Brad Miller fouled Shaquille O'Neal twice within 15 seconds and had to leave the game, and then immediately afterward Joakim Noah got whistled going against Superman as well, before Shaq threw down a dunk.  There was also a Derrick Rose twist and shoot after a foul was called that Reggie Miller insisted ad nauseum should have been a chance for a three-point play, but in all fairness, he shot the ball well after the foul and it was in no way a continuation.

Star-divide

What bothered me tonight more than anything was a seeming laissez-faire attitude to the performance, once the Cavaliers sprinted out to a 52-40 second quarter lead, a lack of killer-instinct that let the Bulls back into the game, allowed them to think that they had a real chance, and more importantly, completely extended our best player into having to play almost 44 minutes...against an eight-seed which, just two days earlier, had succumbed by 23 points at home to this same Cavs team.  Even the TNT commentators likened the Cavs' effort to "a cat playing with a ball of yarn", as if they were simply toying with the Bulls.  Well, guess what, if you toy too long, you sometimes get bit back when you discover that ball of yarn is concealing a spider.  The kind of spider that can almost turn a 93-84 lead in the closing stages into a loss, the kind of spider that suddenly trailed by only one with over a minute to play.

I am not going to get into statistics tonight, as all relevant numbers are readily available by looking at a box score.  I will say that Antawn Jamison was a world-beater tonight, especially in the first half when he dropped 20 on the Bulls, and I will say that it is a good thing that the Bulls are not much of a three-point shooting team, as the Cavs outscored them 30-6 on threes.  And the Cavaliers' bench, led by Delonte West, quietly outscored the Bulls bench by eighteen.

So yes, hooray, the Cavs won and advanced to the next round, and hooray, part two, the next two games will also be at the Q...but all I can see and think about is #23 shooting a left-handed free throw, and barely moving his right arm at all as he made his way onto the floor to say adieu to a couple of Bulls.

Speaking of the Bulls...after all of the little animosities of this series, all of the humorous banter back and forth, and yes, even after Joakim Noah's ill-timed words of wisdom last weekend...after all that...good job, Bulls, good job for not quitting, good job for showing up for work tonight, and good job in taking "the best" right down to the last minute of the game, with two players fouled out.  And last but not least...consider keeping Vinny Del Negro.  He might not be the most popular guy in your front office, but he almost turned a sow's ear into a silk purse tonight, and four of the five games were close for a long, long time, including your one win.

When this victory starts feeling really good instead of ominous and bad, somebody please tell me...I wouldn't want to miss it.  For, you see, this ancient mariner remembers another series, long, long ago, when we won and advanced to play the Boston Celtics.  That series became known, in part, for the young 'uns who might not know it, as "The Miracle of Richfield", and right after it, all the highs of winning that series came crashing down when our starting center, Jim Chones, was injured during a practice, of all things, and the Cavs didn't have enough left to take the Celtics down.

So please, let me know when it is okay to feel really good about tonight's game.

In any event, Let's Go Cavs!!!

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The only concerning thing for me is the elbow, if Lebron is fine for game 1 i’m back to having 0 worries.

by CavsLebronFan on Apr 28, 2010 12:08 AM CDT reply actions  

sometimes get bit back when you discover that ball of yarn is concealing a spiderball of yarn is concealing a spider

lol whut?

Anyways, I agree wholeheartedly. People say a win is a win, but we all know they’re not playing just to make it to the ECF, or the finals, they’re playing to win it ALL, and anything less would be uncivilized. This series leaves me with a bit of satisfaction, a great deal of apprehension, and alot of questions. Let’s not forget though, give some credit to the bulls…they played fairly well despite being outmatched, and were certainly not rolling over like the Pistons last year. It’s not just that the Cavs played rather poorly for 3 games out of 4.

I would have to say the defense is my biggest concern.

It would seem to me, that you feel threatened by the Eric Ghiaciuc acquisition.

by johnnyphoenix on Apr 28, 2010 12:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Even though the Bulls are nowhere near as good as they were 20 years ago when they always had our number,

Beating them in the playoffs still feels good to me. Makes me almost forget about the fact that Craig Ehlo was forever immortalized in a Michael Jordan poster as the dude who got owned.

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1. FIRE DUSTY! NOW!
2. Cavaliers Championship
3. Bengals win Super Bowl XLV

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Apr 28, 2010 2:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Seeing as you guys are called "Fear the Sword"

You should have titled this post “Fear the double-edged sword” I really hope Lebron is ok, we will no doubt need him in all the rest of the games.

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by Ian_InsideTheShoe on Apr 28, 2010 6:52 AM CDT reply actions  

I hate to say it,

but the officiating was horrible. Sure they went the Cavs way, that doesn’t make me less of a fan. Like the announcers say “It’s the playoff, let them play”. I guess my real gripe is that the officiating gives the Bulls something to cry about and take away from the win.
 That being said, I have to agree with Reggie. It felt like the Cavs were toying with them, keeping it close for some unknown reason.
And LBJ’s elbow will be fine. You guys really think numbness in his elbow is going to stop him this year?

by navycavsfan on Apr 28, 2010 7:32 AM CDT reply actions  

I would tend to agree with you, Navy, but LeBron revealed that he has already had it x-ray’d and MRI’d recently, and he doesn’t know what is wrong, though he said not to worry….yeah, right….I am not so worried about the numbness as I am the underlying cause of it, numbness might indicate swelling pressing on a nerve, and if a nerve is inflamed, it could kick up again at anytime….anyhow, Navy, LeBron will play through it, I am sure, but if he loses his touch in critical junctures, it could be a real problem. As far as the Cavs toying with the Bulls, it still, the next morning, bothers me that we did not just put that series to bed in the third quarter, instead of putzing around out there. Give the Bulls credit for hanging in there and playing with desperation, I guess, but a superior team, when it smells blood, goes for the jugular and finishes the damn thing off.

by AncientMariner on Apr 28, 2010 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Completely agree.

I don’t know why they didn’t put it away. That fire was there in game 4.
 As for the elbow, I read that too. But say he loses his shooting touch because of said mysterious injury. Silver lining is that maybe he’ll stop shooting so damn much and take it to the hole. I hate those pull up j’s and 3’s anyway, especially when he is nigh unstoppable driving into the lane. As long as he can effectively dribble and make a kickout pass with that arm, Cavs are fine. He can save that left arm for dunking on KG.
 It’s times like these where I sit back and appreciate Mr. Ferry and the job he’s done putting this team together. Everyone thinks LBJ has to be at 100%. All he did was facilitate tonight and still almost had a triple double.
 If the Celtics players talk as much trash as there bloggers do, LBJ and the Cavs will have no problem keeping that fire throughout this series.

by navycavsfan on Apr 28, 2010 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL, yeah, I see the bloggers are already out in full force talking smack. It’s funny, I bought into that whole “awww, poor Boston, their Red Sox SO deserve a World Series”, and I pulled like crazy for them in ’04, but a few more years of seeing their air of entitlement has changed my mind about “poor Boston”…it is time for Cleveland, not because we are “entitled”, but because it would be sweet, once and for all, to silence the trolls, especially trolls like the ones you see so often in Yahoo game recaps.

by AncientMariner on Apr 28, 2010 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

There is nothing worse than Red Sox fan. After ’04, they acted like the 86 year drought never happened and had won two dozen championships.

by nosey313 on Apr 28, 2010 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

The only analogy I disagree with in your article is the one drawn comparing the “Miracle” team to this one..IF LeBron needs to play a little less to be more effective , They have AJ, JJ, J Moon, and Powe hasn’t seen even a minute yet..THAT is a far cry from Losing a 20 something Chones to be backed up by a 40 year old Nate Thurmond who was ready to retire before he came over to the Cavs (One really has to admire the grit and determination Nate showed against “Big Red”-one of the best PFs to play center and a true character-in those games)..For those of you who don’t “get it” Google “Dave Cowens”

You’re probably correct about the inflamed nerve…It will be a challenge for all of the Cavs to pick up whatever slack is created by this…They have the pieces… Can they put the puzzle together is the question.

by cavslandrocks on Apr 28, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same Feeling..Different Reason

I have been a Cavs fan my whole life, and have watched the games this year very closely. I have been critical of different aspects of this year’s team, but I have stayed optimistic about their chances to win it all. I can’t help but feel deep down that the Cavs are setting up the fans here for another huge disappointment! The biggest reason for this feeling is that Mike Brown is one of the worst NBA coaches I have ever seen. He coaches completely through his assistants, and really has nothing to do during the game except sit there and chew his tobacco or whatever the hell he keeps spitting into his water bottle. He is the worst in-game coach in the NBA by a wide margin. When does he ever draw up a play at the end of a quarter or after a timeout that actually works? Besides the patented Lebron dribbling the clock down then going 1 on 5, there is not alot of passing for a good shot at these times. No creativity whatsoever! Lebron is NEVER used as a decoy! Brown trusts no one but Lebron! Mike Brown has fallen prey to the most common trap in coaching: Letting the “best” player run the team! Everyone else is an afterthought! Mike Brown does not understand the team concept of basketball and I hope he follows Lebron out of Cleveland…

by John Colagiovanni on Apr 28, 2010 8:39 AM CDT reply actions  

With fans like you

who needs enemies? Haven’t heard too many Cavs fans wishing for LeBron to leave Cleveland for any reason.

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by Juannieboy on Apr 28, 2010 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’m sorry, but GTFO. I am sick and tired of all the self hatred in this town. A couple years ago, I was down in the same pit as you. After the Tribe choked in ‘07 I was heading for the 480 bridge. After the Cavs playoff exit last year, I had hit bottom. But you know what? Life is too short to be hung up on these teams like you are right now. Do I like the way the Cavs played in this series? No way. Am I worried about Bron’s elbow? Absolutely. But I am not going to stand for any more Cleveland self-loathing. If you can’t take the complexities of professional sports, take up knitting.

“I hope he follows Lebron out of Cleveland…” Seriously? Go root for the Raiders.

by nosey313 on Apr 28, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

This right here. Also, gotta love the quotes around “best” player. So, Johny boy, who’s better than LeBron on this globe, let a lone on this team?

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by Turkmenbashi on Apr 28, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

If Mike Brown had the mind of a high school coach Lebron would already have a title.

by packimop on Apr 28, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope he follows Lebron out of Cleveland…

um…EXCUSE me?

It would seem to me, that you feel threatened by the Eric Ghiaciuc acquisition.

by johnnyphoenix on Apr 28, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jesus, you people need to calm down and step back from the ledge.

At first I was all up in arms about this, the fact that we seemingly already forget the lessons learned in game 3. But then I took a deep breath and thought about it.

This game was positive for several reasons. Shaq finally got his mojo going. A lot of our offense focused on feeding the big man. That may not have been efficient for game five, but you can be damn sure we need it in the long run. As result of getting some offensive confidence back, the Shaqken also defended like a best last night.

Even Andy got going a little bit more that he was. I think Noah gives him trouble and Andy will be glad to see him go.

I mean look, this is one of those games I look back on and say we didn’t play great, but we didn’t play badly either. Both teams played pretty well. And you know what? This Bulls team is a lot better than its record shows.

Bottom line, if LeBron hits his season average for points, we win by 15. I think some folks — myself included, at times — need to relax.

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Apr 28, 2010 10:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Turk, your “We Got This” post after last year’s loss to ORL helped me greatly. I can’t stand the Debbie Downers anymore.

by nosey313 on Apr 28, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Glad to hear it, man. That post was as much self theraputic as it was helpful to other folks, probably moreso.

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Apr 28, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

love when one of the LGT braintrust shows up elsewhere to calm down the fevered ramblings. :P Good on ya, Turk.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on Apr 28, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha. Thanks, man!

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Apr 28, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point.

The Bulls were plaugued by injury earlier in the season, and they are better than them barely getting the 8th seed indicated. One of the Celts bloggers took comfort in the fact that they blew out 5th seed Miami, whereas we only beat an 8th seed by 2. I’d have to say in a 7 game series with both teams healthy, Chicago beats Miami 4-1.
 And so the Cavs didn’t play as hard as some would have liked. Cavs won their “must win” game, which for them was game 4. The Bulls in their must win game (who played with more heart than Miami and even the Cavs some games) overcame bad officiating and large deficits and left everything on the floor, and a mediocre (or whatever people want to call it) performance by the Cavs still beat them.
 Turk’s right. Relax, look at the big picture and the positives, and enjoy the win.

by navycavsfan on Apr 28, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Everybody Chill Out

Yes the Cavs didn’t play their best game last night, but it is not time to panic. Considering LeBron was a non factor for the first 3 quarters and the Bulls were playing with their backs against the wall, they still won and are moving on. We don’t know how severe his injury is, but he is a tough kid and will play through it. He’ll also be getting the best medical care in the world to treat it. This is the playoffs and it is a new season. It doesn’t matter if you are the #1 or the #8 seed, you are going to play tough.

Remember Boston back in 2008? In the first round they played Atlanta and it took them 7 games to beat them (and Atlanta had a losing record). In the second round they played the Cavs and it took them 7 games to beat us. They went on to win the title and beat the Lakers in 6 games. Boston also had the best road record that season and they couldn’t win a road game in their first two series. The Cavs didn’t play their best game last night and yes they need to get their free throw shooting figured out, but they will be fine. Enjoy the win and get ready for Saturday when we play the hated Celtics. That series will go 7 games. It is going to be ugly, but the Cavs will prevail. (http://www.preservingthenation.blogspot.com/)

by Olmsted F CAVS FAN on Apr 28, 2010 10:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Ha. People are worried after a series with the Bulls?

C’mon now.

by Simmsinns on Apr 28, 2010 10:19 AM CDT reply actions  

yeah really

I agree. I think some ppl are getting hung up on the #1 vs. #8 seeding or something. Just like with Dwight’s foul troubles in the first round, I wouldn’t be too concerned with what happened over these 5 games for you guys.

by gatorboi352 on Apr 28, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I must say

as a Magic fan, I cannot WAIT for the ECF. In all honesty (and hopefully without flame bait and getting ran out of this place) I do not see this years Cavs as a “better” team than last year, only a “different” team.

Match ups for this team verses the Magic in a 7 game series is going to be something of beauty to watch. I love the chess games between teams that take place in the playoffs.

Here’s to hoping both squads are at 110% come then!

by gatorboi352 on Apr 28, 2010 10:20 AM CDT reply actions  

Just curious, but do you see the Magic as a better team this year?

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by Turkmenbashi on Apr 28, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I honestly do

and not becasue of woo woo Vince Carter. He’s been marginal at best honestly.

Heathly Jameer Nelson. It does so much for our squad. And the depth is a breath of fresh air too.

Regardless though I’m certainly not here to flame bait like Ol Green Boy or whatever from the Boston blog.

by gatorboi352 on Apr 28, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are you concerned about Howard’s fouling issues? The refs have been way too whistle happy so far this playoffs (on all sides), and I would think that the way Howard plays would give him trouble against our bigs.

by nosey313 on Apr 28, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

We welcome opposing fans, like yourself, here. You’re not a troll.
I’ve got no problem with you stating your opinion, you’re entitled to it.

Personally, I disagree completely however. We’re a much better team than last year. The addition of Shaq and Jamison is huge. We know have another go to scorer, and a body to check Dwight (Shaq has proven he can still do that.) Parker is also a great addition, he’s often leathal from 3 point land, plays great D, and most importantly, allows Delonte West to come off the bench. West does an awesome leading the squad off the bench. Varejao has also improved immensely. His defense is elite, and he can now score as well.

As for the Magic, I see them as a still similar team. But, the Vince Carter replacing Turkoglu as a downgrade. You lost the height advantage that killed the Cavs in last seasons ECF. Other than that, it’s the same team, in my eyes.

by Simmsinns on Apr 28, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

That’s what I’ve thought. At best, ORL is the same team we played last year. We’re certainly not.

by nosey313 on Apr 28, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

@ nosey313

I’m really not. I don’t see the refs keeping that level of whistle blowing up in the later rounds. Some of those calls were outright Dave Chappelle comical. At one point in like Game 3 I just stopped having a reaction to them it was so surreal.

@ Simmsinns

Well thank you! Glad to be posting here along with pinstripedpost.

You make excellent points. Players like Delonte and Parker (and others!) have elevated their game this year from my eye test as an opposing fan, and Shaq for sure is a crucial body to put on Dwight. That match up ALONE in a series is killing me to have to wait for.
Jamison, still not sold on as far as consistency is going to go. Vince I don’t think was a downgrade, just not too much of an upgrade. Where he lacks in height advantage and partial disinterest, he makes up for I think in moments of amazement that could (hopefully) pay off in crucial moments down the stretches.

by gatorboi352 on Apr 28, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

GB, if you had Vince and Hedo side by side on a scale, would they really balance each other? (In terms of the effect on the Cavs)

by nosey313 on Apr 28, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

asking me that now after seeing Hedo’s play this year, I might be a little biased LOL But even still, I was never fully sold on him here, even though his year 2 years ago was pretty darn good.

But besides that, I think people in general put too much emphasis on Hedo vs. Vince and don’t realize the other crucial new peice in Matt Barnes, along with my personal true Cavs killer last year Mickael Pietrus.

by gatorboi352 on Apr 28, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

after seeing Hedo’s play this year

I think it’s incorrect to assume Hedo would play as bad on the Magic, that he has in Toronto. I don’t think he regressed, he’s simply asked to play a different role, one that does not mold well with his skill set. Orlando (especially vs. Cavs) was a perfect fit for him. He often became a facilitator then moved around and got wide open looks.

To answer the question posed by Nosey, vs. Cleveland specifically, Hedo massively out weighs Carter in terms of effects on us. He’ll be much easier to deal with, and Delonte is fully capable of shutting him down.

I am interested in how we do match-ups in one on one defense. Personally, I think it’d be smarter to put LeBron on Rashard Lewis, and have Jamison guard Barnes/Pietrus.

by Simmsinns on Apr 28, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Jameer Nelson gets hot, which happens sometimes, have D. West guard Nelson and Parker can still play good D on Carter.

by Simmsinns on Apr 28, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’d agree that Barnes was a nice addition, but other than having Jameer healthy, how has Orlando improved? You can argue the Hedo/Vince thing both ways all day, but I’m more thinking of your backcourt. I think having Alston/CLee/Tlue last year is better than Williams and ? Alston unexplicably hit every 3 he jacked up (being wide opened helped). Williams hasn’t made one yet in the playoffs and Reddick hasn’t made one since game 1 for ya’ll. Vince is 0.059% in the playoffs from 3.

by navycavsfan on Apr 28, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

the Orlando series...when it get's here...

will determined on how well Jameer is defended. The match up between him and Mo will be crucial. That is NOT a comforting thought. I hope Mike Brown has a plan because if Jameer goes off for 30+ points in a game, we may be in deep do do.

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by Juannieboy on Apr 28, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Personnally

I’d give the PG matchup to the other team from from here on out. Mo tries, bless his heart, but…
 That’s where MB earns his paycheck. Never been a believer of his offensive prowess, but he has to have the vision to concede certain things (such as giving up 25-30ppg to any opposing guard) to take away others (Pierce and Allen for Boston, Lewis and Carter in ORL for example)

by navycavsfan on Apr 28, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Understood

but right now, Jameer is a big big concern. He is playing really well this year. Alot better than last year when we played them.

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by Juannieboy on Apr 28, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have Delonte West guard Jameer Nelson. Problem solved.

by Simmsinns on Apr 28, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd agree,

but by that logic DWest would have to start over Mo. DWest should’ve been guarding Rose and he should be on Rondo, but as long as Mo is in the starting line-up and getting the minutes he does, the PG match-up will always be a problem

by navycavsfan on Apr 29, 2010 7:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jamison, still not sold on as far as consistency is going to go.

I’m curious why you say this…seems like a blanket generalization. Looking at the numbers, he’s pretty damn consistent. Now, obviously he has only played 5 postseason games with the Cavs, but he has basically been the same player. Simply looking at his shooting and usage:

Shooting
2010 Playoffs: 55% eFG (avg FG/FGA per game: 7.4/14.6)
2010 Season w/ Cavs: 52.5% (avg FG/FGA per game: 7.2/14.9)

Usage
2010 Playoffs: 23.1
2010 w/ cavs: 24.1

…seems to be very similar in his first 5 postseason games with the Cavs as he was throughout the season for them.

How about comparing just basic scoring and rebounding througout his career with how he is performing this postseason, ok…
Career 19.8 PPG and 12.3 TRB%
2010 playoffs 19.4 PPG and 12.3 TRB%

by Scalia on Apr 28, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

That Rose move was DEFINITELY an And 1

It was continuation because he didn’t put the ball on the floor again after he got hit. He went into the shot after contact was made, but just because it took him a little to get the shot off doesn’t mean it wasn’t continuation. It definitely was.

by packimop on Apr 28, 2010 10:59 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree

I’ve seen WAY worse post whistle moves counted as continuation than that last night by Rose.

by gatorboi352 on Apr 28, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think we will have to agree to disagree on that one, to me, at least, I think it wasn’t called that way because it looked like Rose half-turned after the whistle and launched the shot. But….you are correct in that much more questionable calls have been made on continuation, and on a bang-bang play, I guess a lot depends on which part of the play the ref is really looking at….could have gone either way, I will grant that much.

by AncientMariner on Apr 28, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

But on the flip side, I think the Bulls got jobbed a little with those three quick fouls on Miller and Noah, there was a lot of bumping, but that happens all the time, and if the defender stands there like a statue and waits for a charge, Shaq just spins and blows right past…the look on Miller’s face said it all.

by AncientMariner on Apr 28, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yea those two calls on Miller were horrible

Especially the second one. But Shaq got a touch foul on the other end of the floor in the same sequence as well. NBA officiating is the most inconsistent part of the game. It honestly ruins a great game. Basketball is meant to be a contact sport to some extent, and the NBA has just totally gone away from that with the way the refs call the games now.

by packimop on Apr 28, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wrong

On “back downs” the NBA refs are instructed to allow the defender one hand against back of the dribbler. Miller had both of his hands on him. That is a foul. Like it or not.

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by Juannieboy on Apr 28, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks Juannieboy, I was trying to write down numbers when the plays occurred, I did not see the two-hands thing, I stand corrected then, I was going by the good old TNT announcers howling over the fouls.

by AncientMariner on Apr 28, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think they decided not to give it to him because it didn’t look like he intended to shoot until after he was fouled.

by packimop on Apr 28, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

That could well be, he wasn’t facing the basket when the whistle blew, he was facing the sideline and then turned. That play cost the Bulls three points, because Rose, the way he was draining FTs, was not about to miss from the stripe.

by AncientMariner on Apr 28, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

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