LeBron concerned over 'mystery' elbow injury
by John Bena (aka CavsBlogger) on Apr 28, 2010 11:03 AM CDT
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PrintThe Drive, The Shot, The Fumble, The Elbow?? That is what Cleveland fans might be starting to think after LeBron James winced his way through a 19-point performance against the Bulls last night as the Cavaliers finished off Chicago 4-1 to move on to a date with the Boston Celtics. LeBron further added to the drama when, after hitting a late free throw to put the Cavs up 96-92 with 7.6 seconds remaining, he shot his 2nd free throw left handed, so as not to further any injury.
For his part, James said he would have shot it right handed if the Cavaliers 'needed' the free throw -
Honestly, if I would have had to make (the second one), I would have tried to with my right hand, but I didn’t want to risk it anymore.
LeBron also mentioned that he was concerned about the injury, simply because he had no idea what was causing it -
I don’t know, honestly, what’s going on (with it). I’ve done tests to try and figure this thing out, but it almost feels like you hit your funny bone and it kind of numbs up for a little bit. It bothers me more because I don’t actually know what it is. I don’t know what’s going on, but we will figure it out. We have the best doctors in Cleveland and they will figure it out. We will be fine."
Of course, LeBron also mentioned that the injury has been going on a "couple of weeks", though this is the first time he has really been affected.
I thought back to when LeBron first started wincing and flexing the elbow - Game 4 in Chicago - to see if I could find the cause. I remember thinking, as I watched him leave the floor in pain at Halftime on Saturday, that it could have been this dunk.
You can see the sheer force that LeBron exerts on the elbow - it almost seems like his hand gets hung up on the rim a bit. Could this have caused the injury - or, if it has been lingering for a few weeks unnoticed, could it have made the injury flare up?
Once thing is for certain. Despite falling one assist short of his 6th playoff triple-double, LeBron was definitely affected by the elbow pain/soreness/numbness. If the Cavs are going to beat the Celtics, the best Doctors in the world need to find the cause, and a solution, STAT.
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I kind of wonder if this is not a previously unspoken reason why LeBron played against Toronto and then sat out and started his “rest” against Chicago in a game which also meant so much for the Raptors and the Bulls. After all, that regular-season Bulls game was 20 days ago, which is a little past “a couple of weeks” but in the ballpark.
by AncientMariner on Apr 28, 2010 11:32 AM CDT reply actions
Yes, the Cleveland curse. This is not the last word on the matter, and it does not replace rational analysis, etc, but every Cleveland fan has to feel that old familiar pain. Here we go again. The next collapse…
And we have to add “The Justice Home-run”, “The Blown Save”, and “Red-right 88” to the litany…actually more like a catechism sometimes, it seems. Someday we will actually win (hopefully this “someday”), and we will be like Robert Redford in “The Candidate”, who shockingly won his election and then, after all the campaigning, the promises, the crowds, etc, sat there, stunned that he had won, looked at his campaign manager and said “What do we do now…?”
by AncientMariner on Apr 28, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
2nd Opinion
Why did Mike Brown act like he didn’t know anything about the injury during last night’s post-game press conference?
Anyway, LeBron, please go and get an independent 2nd opinion. Learn from those that came before you. You can call Grant Hill right now and ask him about injuries during the playoffs and team doctors and pending free agency.
For those that may have forgotten, Grant Hill played in Detroit 1st, and when his contract was about to be up he got hurt at the end of the season/during the playoffs, team doctors kept telling him he had a sprained ankle. After he kept trying to play, it was eventually discovered by independent doctors that his ankle was actually broken. He signed with Orlando in the off-season, and we all know the rest of the story. He was never the same. I’m sure there is a YouTube video of his interview somewhere.
I’m not saying LeBron’s injury is as bad as that, but if the team doctors keep saying there is nothing wrong and it is playoff time, and you are about to be a free agent, then you may want to get a second opinion. As “Any Given Sunday” taught us all, sometimes team doctors put the teams desires over that of the individual player. The player (like Brandon Roy right now) should be the one to make the decision to play based on ALL the medical evidence.
Although it would be dang near blasphemous for Cleveland’s doctors to misrepresent themselves, the mind can sometimes make you see something that is not there, or NOT see something that IS there. (Like a foul you swear you saw, but replay shows it never happened). Maybe there is (hate to say it) damage to the elbow, but because they so don’t want it to be, they don’t see it.
Since LeBron will never read this, someone in Cleveland let him know, lol
by Nowujalo Meekah on Apr 28, 2010 11:46 AM CDT reply actions
Ridiculous. see reply fail below.
It would seem to me, that you feel threatened by the Eric Ghiaciuc acquisition.
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 28, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
sometimes team doctors put the teams desires over that of the individual player.
Cleveland has the best doctors and medical facilities in the nation, I highly doubt at the cleveland clinic, which is famous worldwide, they are going to ‘misrepresent’ themselves.
Sounds something like a nerve is getting pinched when he extends or flexes, the only thing I can think of that could cause him to feel immediate ‘numbness.’
It would seem to me, that you feel threatened by the Eric Ghiaciuc acquisition.
yeah…If I had one hospital to choose to treat a random diagnosis (basically one of any number of medical issues that could exist) the clinic may be on the top of my list. Either the cleveland clinic or the Mayo clinic…very close.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Ooh, can we keep a running tally of how many times this series Paul Pierce falls over and acts like he’s been shot after he misses a contested jumper? I like this game.
"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay
by Turkmenbashi on Apr 28, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
So true...
If you look at any in-game photo of Pierce he looks like he’s crying or in pain more than half the time. I’m not questioning his talent, just saying he cries a lot.
Also, my personal opinion (and it’s only one person’s opinion) is that LBJ is embellishing his “injury.” His facial expressions and body language lend me to believe he’s better than he’s leading on.
Dare I say that Jordan did the same
before his legendary “flu” game performance? I think you might be on to something.
Oh yea I’m sure he felt great. The dude looked like hell the entire game. Don’t get upset because he’s the GOAT.
Don't get upset because he made a comment about LBJ you didn't like.
We all think he’s great because he’s homegrown and on our team, but be real, the man is a diva.
I think he was referring to Jordan as the GOAT, not Lebron.
buuuuuh! --mooncamping
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 29, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
If you are going to sink to personal insults, there will no doubt be consequences. This is a friendly blog and all are welcome if they are willing to post intelligently, however calling someone “LeQueen” is not an intelligent post. You don’t have to agree with anyone here, you are a Celtics fan, so be it and good for you, nobody expects you to have anything actually good to say about the Cavs, but name-calling of a professional athlete who did not get handed the gift of Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen before he won anything is hardly appropriate, this is a place for back-and-forth banter, and maybe a little trash talk too, if it is above board.
Besides, it is a little ironic that someone who roots for a team from the same city that blamed a silly “curse of the Bambino” for not winning a World Series for 86 years would have anything at all to say about “excuses”.
by AncientMariner on Apr 28, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Why not start a thread specially for Celtic fans here at FTS?
Then they can spout off their derogatory and uncomprehensable ravings on any topic without us having to endure these lunatics and their “views” on every single subject.
Kind of like a special education class, really.
I'm Polish...what's your excuse?
LeQueen.
I see what you did there. Original.
It would seem to me, that you feel threatened by the Eric Ghiaciuc acquisition.
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 28, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Theres also
Lebrick, Lebroom and my personal favorite Leroid. He just happens to be a big star with a name that starts with “Le” which allows anyone and everyone to make easy digs at him.
by Scal4theallstargame on Apr 29, 2010 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions
lol.
Leroid is my particular favorite. Nothing soothes the ego after getting served a salty package of nuts and a side of jam like blaming it on steroids.
I went to a few of his high school games when I was in school at cleveland heights, and the high schoolers he demoralized didn’t cry as much as these “professionals”.
LeBrick is good. Dude shot over 50% this season, in case you didn’t hear.
"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay
by Turkmenbashi on Apr 29, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions
The haters counter that with
“Wah wah, he just bowls over opponents that’s why it’s skewed, wah wah, stat stuffer, wah wah Mailman Jr. big, strong, athletic guys with a J with no ring.”
O Hai Thar!
Let the trolling commence!
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Apr 28, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Learn how to reply, you little failure
"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay
by Turkmenbashi on Apr 28, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
is that even a sentence?
It would seem to me, that you feel threatened by the Eric Ghiaciuc acquisition.
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 28, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
okay let me set it straight
I dont live in Boston, i dont care about baseball
Im just a Celtic fan, my spelling aint great because im excited for the series to begin. I respect every sports fan, I got my opinions. I take back if i said something to offend anyone, it just talking and dont take it so serious. I just wanted to come over here and stir things up a bit since we got some time before saturday’s tip. Personally, the Celtics are the better team and LeBron cries the most in the league. Ill be on my way back to the best blog in the league (Celtics Blog) and i hope you guys enjoys my Celtics winning the series in 6. Best of luck in the FUTURE because you aint winning now.
Well, ok, I guess…but you’re not really offering any facts or rationale as to why you believe what you believe. You’re just making blanket statements without any further explanation except you wanted to ‘stir things up.’ That, I believe is called ‘trolling.’
Here’s how you differentiate yourself from that definition….If you think the celtics are better, or will win in 6, ok, no problem, then please do share as to why you think so. You know, the whole, ‘talking about basketball’ thing on a basketball blog.
It would seem to me, that you feel threatened by the Eric Ghiaciuc acquisition.
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 28, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
i got that feeling
My Celtics have had a rough year, no doubt. You win championships in the playoffs though. We wanted to be healthy. Were healthy. Sheed has been a dissapointment but davis and allen have played better than expected. Our guys are mentally tough since they have survived so many ups and downs. We have gone through this before, meaning we have experience. We truely believe that we can beat you and will beat you. We have done it in previous playoffs and during the regular season (I understand the series was tied). You fans have your reasons and I respect them, im not on drugs and im not the best speller but yall should atleast respect where i come from with my logic and sense. I truely believe that My Celtics can beat your Cavs and the great thing about it all is that we will find out starting Saturday. I will stand behind the Celtics in 6. I feel we are the better team because of our will to win and experience. We wont break down or back down. I hoep i did not miss spell mush for you grammer junkies
Nope, you spelled “mush” correctly.
"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay
by Turkmenbashi on Apr 28, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
thats the only one i spelled wrong
i tried really hard
were = we’re
dissapointment = disappointment
truely = truly
hoep = hope
Try HARDER. Flash cards or something. PROTIP: The red line underneath a word means it’s most likely incorrect. It doesn’t really matter that much but it helps others not get a headache trying to read it.
Anyways, do you have any other ‘logic and sense’ or analysis to proffer besides ‘will to win,’ ‘mentally tough,’ ‘I feel we are the better team,’ ‘We truly believe that we can beat you,’ and ‘We wont break down or back down?’
Stunning.
Why don’t you just say you think Boston will win because they have the ‘Eye of the Tiger…’ or ’They’ve got the power! it’s gettin’ it’s gettin’ it’s gettin kinda hectic…’
buuuuuh! --mooncamping
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 28, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
It took all my restraint to not say that myself!
….but I’m always the asshole, so it was cool to see some else step up and fill my asshole void….I mean, uhh….nevermind
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Apr 30, 2010 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions
We wanted to be healthy. Were healthy
WOW!!!!!!!!! YOU found the secret to medicine!! you just have to WANT to be healthy and magically, YOU ARE HEALTHY!!!!
I feel we are the better team because of our will to win and experience
yeah, lebron has won so many championships he has no hunger to win anymore. The rest of the team too. Shaq is so much ahead of kobe in championships that he has no reason to one up his ‘rival’.
I could put a team together of Magic, Kareem, Olajuwan, and Bird…they would have more experience than the celtics…would they win? probably not b/c they are old farts…like the celtics…there is a point when actually being able to stand matters more than experience
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
The knowledgeable CelticsFans must not be coming over here…because hands down these are the most inane, stupid, jackass trolljobs and ‘analysis’ I have ever encountered.
I think I might actually prefer ‘HA HA HA CAVS SUCK’ over actually attempting to construct a legitimate argument with breakdowns consisting of well, ‘’we want to win,’ ‘crying’ attempts per game, and ‘We truely believe that we can beat you.’
buuuuuh! --mooncamping
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 29, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I truely believe that My Celtics can beat your Cavs and the great thing about it all is that we will find out starting Saturday
Well cc, I can’t say I find most of your points totally convincing, however in this regard I must say this is an extremely pertinent and valid point.
I definitely think you’re on to something there with the whole ‘playing the games’ thing starting on Saturday. Finding out who is going to win a series really does start with actually playing the series…so I can’t fault your logic there whatsoever.
I broke it down a bit to explore your hypothesis a bit further;
Overall Series Winner (7 games):
Before Series—-
Cavs beat Celtics = UNKNOWN/insufficient data
Celtics beat Cavs = UNKNOWN/insufficient data
After Series—-
Cavs beat Celtics = KNOWN/sufficient measurable data
Celtics beat Cavs = KNOWN/sufficient measurable data
buuuuuh! --mooncamping
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 29, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I dont live in Boston, i dont care about baseball
Other things you don’t care about:
- spelling
- rationality
- common sense
- a drug-free lifestyle
"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay
by Turkmenbashi on Apr 28, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL Turkmenbashi!!, that was just bad (lol)
by AncientMariner on Apr 28, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
You try rooting for the Celtics and watching KG attempt to get up and down the floor, listening to Paul Pierce run his overrated mouth, and staring at Perkins’ constipated scowl without smokin’ a lil green….
I’m sure it’s tough. If I were a Celts fan, I’d be looking for something a lil harder to drown my sorrows in, though…..it’s going to sting pretty bad when the Celts realize their “championship window” has slammed shut in about 10-15 days…..
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Apr 28, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you missed the window by 12 months.
by Chief WaDrew on Apr 29, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
i like how yall slam me
when you talk about living a drug-free lifestyle
nice example on how to run a respectful blog
Yeah, sucks doesn’t it? Maybe you should find a different blog to troll.
"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay
by Turkmenbashi on Apr 28, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Who’s crying here? I see one guy saying absurd things and a bunch of other guys calling him out. Don’t see any crying.
"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay
by Turkmenbashi on Apr 28, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
A Cavs blog is not the place to come to declare definitively that the Celtics are going to win based on your hunches and gut feelings. If you have something interesting to add, such as matchup problems you think the Cavs might struggle with, numbers that demonstrate the Celtics do something better than the Cavs, etc., then by all means, welcome to the discussion.
Otherwise, you’re being nothing but a rabble-rousing troll. I don’t begrudge you for being a Celtics fan. It’s good that you’re so passionate about your team. But this is not the place for overblown boosterism for opposing teams. That is why SBN has a blog for each team. Honestly, I’m annoyed when even Cavs fans come on here with something like GO CAVZ DA CELTIcS SUk cAVZ IN 4 kind of BS, but it’s more tolerable than an opposing fan doing that.
You don’t see Cavs fans on the Celtics blog acting like you do, do you? That’s because they wouldn’t tolerate this. Neither should we.
"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay
by Turkmenbashi on Apr 28, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
i was one my blog a second ago
and there was cavs trolls on there to. Nothing wrong with that. Just bragging about our team.
fans have there different ways of expressing their views. I do not feel like I am attacking anybody, im just letting my opinion be heard on here.
Okay you want the breakdown of the matchups on how i see them.
Rondo > Mo
Ray > Parker
Pierce < James
KG > Jaminson (Very close i will say, i think Kg is slightly better due to his Defense and leadership)
Perkins < Shaq (Also very close, Shaq alittle bigger and more experience)
BENCH- Tony Allen = Delonte West
Davis = Verajao
Sheed < Any other big the Cavs choose to play ( Sheed can turn it around but I doubt it)
Well, I don’t support Cavs trolls either. I just don’t think this is the place for that. Rampant trash talk is for ESPN.com. This is a place for more intelligent discussion.
Your matchup breakdown this is a nice start, but what I mean is can you show me some numbers that back up your opinion on who is better?
For example, I don’t agree with you about Garnett being better than Jamison or Davis being equal to Varejao. I also think Ray’s offense might be canceled out by Parker’s better defensive play.
I appreciate you trying though, but it would be even better if you could dig a little deeper. Are you familiar with 82games.com? Check out some stats there and let me know what you think. Numbers are always a good way to support your opinion.
Also, I wouldn’t discount the intangible things like “experience,” which you have cited as one of the reasons you think the Celtics will win. I just have a couple things to say about that. I agree that it is an important factor, but you can’t rely solely on qualitative analysis in sports. Secondly, I think the Cavs have more experience than you give them credit for. They have not forgotten the tough series against Orlando last year and Boston the year before.
"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay
by Turkmenbashi on Apr 28, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
well i like this conversation
Im not a big stat guys, i understand stats are very important but I just like to go with the gut feeling. Your team has experience as indivisual players but not as a team like the Celtics. The core that won the championship is still together mainly the starting five. The starters in the series will probably cancel out whcih means the bench will be the X Factor in who wins. I think both teams benchs bring alot of energy (Except Rasheed). The bench that plays better gives their team a big boost.
Here is one number that I look at
Celtics started the season 23-5 when healthy
Celtics finished 27-27 when banged up
Celtics are as healthy as possible and unfortunatly i guess, thats the only stat that I think is relevant coming into this series
Im not a big stat guys, i understand stats are very important but I just like to go with the gut feeling.
Well at least that way you can never be wrong….
The starters in the series will probably cancel out whcih means the bench will be the X Factor in who wins.
BENCH- Tony Allen = Delonte West
Davis = Verajao
Sheed < Any other big the Cavs choose to play
So: Cavs win?
on paper yes
once again with my gut feeling, i think the celtic bench will outplay your cavs bench to win the series. They have not played better than your bench throughout the season but the playoffs are different. Im confident they will show up and step up. So, no Celtics win.
I believe in gut feelings, too… sometimes. But that can’t be the be all, end all. To say you’re not a stats guy is being lazy and not giving yourself enough credit. Understanding at least the basic stats about your team helps deepen your passion for the team and the game in general.
I was never a stats guy, and I still wouldn’t consider myself one. But I’ve realized I can’t make a legitimate argument without at least some supporting numbers. Give it a shot, man. I think you’ll be surprised at how much you can learn.
"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay
by Turkmenbashi on Apr 28, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
okay this is what i know of the top of my head
Celtics- bottom of the league in rebounding, probably last in the league in offensive rebounding. They like to not give up fast break points since their not the fastest or most athletic team in the league.
Top 5 team in assist- Very unselfish team , always makes the extra pass. Since they do that, they are at the top of turnovers also.
Its not that I’m lazy with stats, stats are in the past and what counts is what happens in the future. Stats do show trends and what can happen but not what will happen. Boston outrebounded the Heat for most of the series for example.
how about this. Cavs are the 2nd best team in the league from 3 point land, while the celtics are 17th. boston is a good perimeter D but the cavs are just as good…verdict here? the celtics will be shooting bricks from behind the arc, especially if you put pressure on ray and make someone else shoot 3s b/c no one else really can.\
while boston is 2nd in the league in assists, the cavs are right there behind them…yep, the cavs are a selfish team.
Cleveland without both Shaq and Z for about 2 months were still a very good rebounding team…also, they were one of the best teams at keeping their opponents off the glass..cleveland outrebounded teams by 4 a game while the celtics got outrebounded by 1.5 a game. That is about 5 more posessions the cavs will get…
the only things the celtics do anywhere near as good (or better) than the cavs is perimeter D, Causing turnovers, and Passing…even though they get steals and pass the ball, they are not a good ballhandling team and are 21st at limiting turnovers and turnover difference.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Stats do show trends and what can happen but not what will happen.
Right, but nothing can show what will happen. Numbers can only help in that regard, but even the biggest stat nerds will tell you that numbers aren’t everything. That doesn’t mean they’re worthless.
"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay
by Turkmenbashi on Apr 29, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
i was one my blog a second ago
and there was cavs trolls on there to.
Where? I looked at every thread related to the celts/cavs and found not a single one.
buuuuuh! --mooncamping
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 28, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
If there are Cavs trolls over there, they aren’t participating in any discussions on this site. Ergo, I assume that it’s just people looking to piss off the Boston faithful.
by Chief WaDrew on Apr 29, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions
trust me…I have scanned the Celtics blog (but not trolled or even commented) and we get much more trolls from the celtics or magic than we give back. we receive trolls much more than we give them out.
Rondo=Mo (rondo has edge in passingpassing and D but as long as you keep him from getting layups or midrangers, he is ineffective as a scorer b/c he can’t hit is FTs to save his live or 3 pointers, whereas Mo is a sharpshooter in this sense…rondo can be shut down offensively)
Ray>Parker (parker is a role player you are comparing to one of the ‘big three’. still, parker is the more effective 3 point shooter and the more stout defender. allen is a pretty porous defender and has lost a step. he can still shoot but has been losing his shot a bit this year…he also shoots worse from deep in the playoffs)
James<<Pierce (pierce is having a better year than last year…but that was the worst of his career. he is still a step slow on the defensive end, committing more fouls b/c of it than before, and not nearly as effective as a passer which hurts offensive flow)
KG=Jamison (KG has not been the player he once was for 2 years now. last year, he was able to step up in the playoffs but hasn’t yet this year. he may very well be done as a great player. the key measure to see if a guy is slowing down is fouls on D. a guy that is slower tends to commit more fouls. KG jumped from 2.6 fouls per 36 min to 3. the most in a full season since he was a rookie. he is ineffective on D and isn’t as effective of a shooter or rebounder. KG however has a better PER but Jamison is just as effective. PER doesn’t consider Inside/Outside game…and Jamison can stretch the floor and bring KG out to the perimeter where he is out of position. Jamison has more speed at this point and if he drives, KG is not match defensively)
Shaq>Perkins (Shaq has been injured a lot and is still significantly better. he has a better PER and is still a much more effective rebounder. Shaq is an underrated passer out of the post too. shaq also has a strength edge and an experience edge. a shaq not at 100% is still significantly better than perkins).
Bench- Tony Allen<<Delonte (I think Tony Allen is highly overrated. Tony allen is an off-guard with average ballhandling skills at best and no outside shot…and he is the future replacement for Ray Allen?? Allen has no outside shot compared to Delonte’s effective one. Tony allen is a very good defender but so is delonte. delonte is as good of a defender even though he isn’t as effective at stealing the ball. Like rondo, allen has an ineffective outside shot and also struggles from the line. Allen also has a very poor A/TO ratio for an off-guard with 1.07/1. Ray allen isn’t a great ballhandler for a guard and has a 1.7/1 A/TO ratio. Tony allen is a good defender but thats it. he is foul prone, a liability handling the ball, and not an effective shooter).
Davis<Varejao…considered 2 < marks (Davis is overrated b/c of the heroics in the playoffs in that one game. he has a little better range than Andy but is not an effective scorer for a big man. Like most big men, he is a major liability with the ball in his hands. he also isn’t a good defender, doesn’t alter shots well, and is very often in foul trouble. Varejao gets more blocks and alters more shots AND is much better at limiting fouls and foul trouble. Varejao doesn’t have a ton of offensive range but he is an effective offensive player. Varejao also is not a liability with the ball in his hands. when ‘big baby’ comes into the game, the offense slows down to a snail like pace. when andy is in, his high energy and athleticism sparks the offense and the offense is dynamite and the D still plays well…plus he is surprisingly a better rebounder)
Z>>Sheed. no explanation needed. sheed just stinks on ice this year…
and the celtics can only go 8 deep at best.
the celtics would be lucky to win more than 2 games in this series.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Is it too much to say Delonte ≥ Tony Allen + Nate Robinson?
by Chief WaDrew on Apr 29, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
A respectful blog is one that allows dumbasses like you to continually post, unlike CelticsBlog.
buuuuuh! --mooncamping
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 28, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
nope
a respectful blog does not call people names and does not use profanity
your bloggers do more name calling over here than at CelticsBlog
Once again if you do not like my opinions and views then fine, because I dont like your opinions either, so we are even.
by celticcrazy on Apr 29, 2010 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions
a respectful blog does not call people names
Oh, you mean like calling someone “LeQueen”? Is that what respectful people don’t do?
by Buckeye Brad on Apr 29, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
+1
-2
Fixed. Now it’s back under 0 where that comment belonged.
buuuuuh! --mooncamping
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 29, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
my spelling aint great
thats an understatement. your unintelligent opinions and trolling about ‘lequeen’ (I can’t wait till the cavs win the series and you get beat by a ‘queen’…how would that taste?) combined with the lack of spelling, make emmit smith (and palin) look like mensa scholars.
Personally, the Celtics are the better team and LeBron cries the most in the league
wow…seriously? How did you do against us February 25th…when shaq got hurt early in the game and Jamison still hadn’t found his groove with the team on offense…oh yeah, you got beat by 30…
march 14th…cavs and Lebron had a terrible shooting night (not even a credit to boston’s D but the cavs ineffectiveness)
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
my spelling aint great because im excited for the series to begin
How does that affect your spelling? You can’t spell when you get excited?
by Buckeye Brad on Apr 29, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Tennis Elbow
D’ya hear the one about the guy with the elbow problem? He went to a “Doc” vending machine, puts in his urine sample, and 25c and ch.ch.chiink..ching .. it prints out “you have a bad case of tennis elbow” .. so he figures he’ll get even with the machine, and collects his daughters urine, mixes in his dogs feces, and then jacks off into the mix. Goes down to the machine and puts in his sample, and 25c ,and ch chiiiik… hhheee…ching! out comes the results:
“Your daughter is pregnant, Your dog has worms, and you don’t stop jacking off you’ll never get rid of the tennis elbow”
Maybe Lebron is bending His gourd a little tooo much l8ly.
Hm...Sportscenter just used almost word for word your opening sentence.
I think you guys just got ripped off!
USG
Here are some opinions
And by opinions I mean observations I’ve made watching games and analysis, also reading too many NBA books to keep count.
Lebron is second best at crying in the NBA to Wade. Pierce does his fair share though and is right up there with the best.
Bron is second best at yelling at the refs behind Bryant. It’s unbelievable what a reputation does to you though. Sheed gets called for more T’s than anyone even though Lebron whines after ever call (or non call) hthat doesn’t go his way.
Lebrons elbow is fine. He just found that the league is focusing more on the Hawks-Bucks, Mavs-Spurs and Durant-Kobe than himself at the moment so he wants to say something to draw attention back to himself.
I’m a Celtic fan but even I do a facepalm whenever Pierce does his patented head flail when he’s trying to draw a foul, when Sheed chucks up a 3 or when Nate (who is supposed to be a point puard) dribbles out a shotclock without passing to anyone then jacks up a jumper over the opponents center. As Cavs fans you have to be at least a little annoyed about the way Lebron argues with the refs for calls (most of the time when he wants free throws) when he clearly ran into a defender then threw some junk towards the rim then didn’t get a call. Then he yells at the ref when in all honesty it should have been an offensive foul.
by Scal4theallstargame on Apr 29, 2010 1:06 AM CDT reply actions
Wow, you have an interesting view of basketball
And by opinions I mean observations I’ve made watching games and analysis, also reading too many NBA books to keep count.
OK. So your an expert. You listen to analysis and you can read. I get and respect that.
1)
Lebron is second best at crying in the NBA to Wade.
When we watch basketball we try and look at the defensive shifts, offensive sets, and open shots taken or missed. Things like that. When we count the number of “crying” attempts per game per player we find it difficult to understand why we win or lose a game.
2)
Lebron’s elbow is fine.
And your a Doctor. Thanks for the diagnosis.
3)
As Cavs fans you have to be at least a little annoyed about the way Lebron argues with the refs for calls
Yes, we get very annoyed when LBJ drives to the hoop, shoots jump shots over defenders, and blocks shots. This kind of behavior that causes him to question a referee’s decision is quite annoying and ,to be honest, embarrassing.
Thank you for the lesson in basketball analysis. It was quite enlightening.
"Is it normal to wake up in the morning in a sweat because you can't wait to beat another human's guts out?"
Joe Kapp
by lifelongvike on Apr 29, 2010 7:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Bingo!
That really was too easy. Adult men toying with little boys.
I'm Polish...what's your excuse?
When we watch basketball we try and look at the defensive shifts, offensive sets, and open shots taken or missed. Things like that. When we count the number of "crying" attempts per game per player we find it difficult to understand why we win or lose a game.
heheh. Winner.
buuuuuh! --mooncamping
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 29, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m a Celtic fan but even I do a facepalm whenever Pierce does his patented head flail when he’s trying to draw a foul, when Sheed chucks up a 3 or when Nate (who is supposed to be a point puard) dribbles out a shotclock without passing to anyone then jacks up a jumper over the opponents center.
Things you forgot to include:
1.) KG’s played out “I’m such an intense mf’er that you can’t even come at me” routine
2.) Kendrick Perkins’ disproportionate view of himself
3.) This guy
And I like how you attempt to justify yourself as some sort of expert because you “watch games and analysis” and “read too many NBA books to count” then offer qualitative data….well played.
Sheed gets called for more T’s than anyone even though Lebron whines after ever call
the difference is Sheed takes it too far. instead of complaining about a call, he would do something like hurl obscenities at the nearest ref. there is a difference between complaining about a call and Sheed. sheed consistently takes it too far.
He just found that the league is focusing more on the Hawks-Bucks, Mavs-Spurs and Durant-Kobe than himself at the moment so he wants to say something to draw attention back to himself.
wow…he cares so little about the current game he is playing he had this whole scheme to shoot with his left hand for one free throw just go get attention? this is really stupid…I can’t even explain hos stupid this is.
Then he yells at the ref when in all honesty it should have been an offensive foul.
I have seen these calls talked about. almost never is it actually an offensive foul. often it isn’t actually a blocking call but when i see it and they show replays, the guys basically never has his feet planted…the first step in drawing a charge. Lebron is so big and physically dominating, many blocking fouls go uncalled b/c it just doesn’t always look like it to the untrained, naked eye.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
As Cavs fans you have to be at least a little annoyed about the way Lebron argues with the refs for calls
Why? mos tof the time, since he’s a perennial all-star ans essentially the best player in the game, he can intimidate some refs into giving him favorable calls. Jordan did it, Kobe does it….Why would that bother me in the slightest? Working the refs is part of the game, just as it is in alot of sports.
buuuuuh! --mooncamping
by johnnyphoenix on Apr 29, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
You guys have your stats and your team that you all think will win
I got my feelings and my team that i think will win
At the end of the series, only one team will still be playing, and that is all that truly matters. If Cleveland wins, I won’t have anything to say anymore, same goes for Cavs fans if Boston wins. We will see who will have the last word. So enjoy the series, it will be very enjoyable for some and very upsetting for others.
Personally, the Celtics are the better team and LeBron cries the most in the league.
how do you measure this? by personal bias and irrational, subjective opinion…or by how the teams matched up in the regular season, statistics, and overall talent…
if you measure it by the first one (which is obvious to anyone an extremely flawed method) the celtics win (if that is your opinion). if you actually go by talent, stats, matchups, previous matchups (basically things besides opinions that actually have an effect on how the game is played) it strongly favors the cavs.
I think both teams benchs bring alot of energy (Except Rasheed). The bench that plays better gives their team a big boost.
this is actually a good opinion about the series. however it is clear to anyone without a personal bias, that the cavs bench is far superior…
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
You guys have your stats and your team that you all think will win
I got my feelings and my team that i think will win
lol celticcrazy just did a ‘scooby doo’ ending for us….
“DAMN you…and I would have GOTTEN AWAY with it too if it weren’t for all you Caaaavs fans—-what with your stats and…and…rational analysis…. You all think you’ve WON and you’re SOOOO SOOO smart will all that stupid observable measurable evidence!…Well HA! I’ll be BAAAACK and I still have my TEAM! And…and….MY….FEELINGS! This isn’t OVEEER yet Cavs FOOLS…HA AHA HA HAAAAAA….”
buuuuuh! --mooncamping
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