Let's say The cavs lose Lebron but gain a solid 2 guard, would they still be a playoff caliber team, if so would they be any higher than a 6 seed? Mo Williams, Anthony Parker, Jamison, Shaq and a two guard would be a pretty solid lineup in the Watered down Eastern Conference but in the west 45 wins seems like a longshot. What's your take on the Cavs 2010-2011 series without them?