So where do the Cavs go looking from here?
by AncientMariner on Jul 19, 2010 6:12 PM CDT
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The Cavaliers' Summer League play is over, and now we have entered the large gap between July and the opening of training camp well over two months away.
Obviously, if the team is going to make any inroads toward contending again next season (the glass is half full until the glass breaks, yes?), some tweaking and additions need to be made. J.J. Hickson and Pooh Jeter were the stars of the Summer League, but while Hickson is quite likely to be the starting center next year, Jeter might not even be in the mix. LeBron James is gone, Zydrunas Ilgauskas is gone, and it may well be that Shaquille O'Neal and Delonte West, at least, might be heading elsewhere.
So what do the Cavs do to try to stay competitive next year, with the losses and possible losses in personnel that they will have to absorb?
Scott at "Waiting for Next Year" gives us a look at some rumors and possibilities in an in-depth article on WFNY.
Do you see any feasible options out there, now that the major free agents have been claimed around the league? Any sleepers on your personal wish list?
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Dirk has officially resigned with the Mavs
We just missed him…by a hair!
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
Shaq is a free agent, so you can consider him gone and not “might be headed elsewhere”.
You are reading my signature.
I think that is right
He is not what we need now at all, too expensive and can’t do all that much.
Good luck big guy, thanks for stopping by.
Gotta admit he is a class act, whatever might have gone down years ago.
I don't think he's a class act lol.
Lazy, out of shape, immature, etc
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
That was how he used to be
He knows he’s just a role player now, and he’s at peace with it.
By the way, glad to have you here!
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
Why hasn't there been much talk of teams negotiating with him?
Last I heard, the Spurs, Hawks, and Heat were contenders.
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
Why hasn't there been much talk from us, you mean?
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
I mean nobody is talking about Shaq.
Besides some noobs over @ SSR. I am curious as to where he will go.
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
it is hard to tell...his ego gets in the way
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 19, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
holy crap!!!!!
ITS PAGFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Adam Morrison has more rings than Lebron, Bosh, and Wade combined?
Welcome to Fear The Sword, shaqfor3!
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
i would hate him eve more if he went to the Heat
but I would love him for coming to the Lakers. does that make me a hypocrite? : )
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 19, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah me too.
It’d be like, he’s so frustrated that Kobe has more rings than him, that he has to latch on to the 3 losers to beat out Kobe. I’d only take him back on the Lakers if he apologizes to the organization and the fans for everything, takes a bench-mentor role to Bynum, and doesn’t cause any big distractions to ruin the team chemistry.
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
lol you are awesome
I would never think of all that. but I agree 100 percent. but an apology would be awesome.
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 19, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
2bad he doesn’t have the balls to do all of that. His ego is too big and he would never submit to being Kobe’s sidekick.
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
pretty much
His ego is too big and he would never submit to being Kobe’s sidekick.
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 19, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Nah, I don't want Shaq.
Besides some noobs over @SSRFTS. I am curious as to where he will go.
LOL, like you!
Sweet 16
I want him to stay
It’s nice to have a 4 time champion playing for the Cavs. But I know he doesn’t want to.
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
noob....
Yeah, you’re an online gamer all right!
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
lol yep all day every day.
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
something to be proud of?
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Jul 21, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
The Cavs want to do a sign and trade to get something back, which suits Shaq because he wants at least the mid-level exception. That seems too rich for the other teams’ blood, at least for those teams the Cavs have contacted so far.
We already have about as many of Miami’s picks as will possibly have any value. And as far as the Lakers go, what would they be willing to part with for Shaq? My guess is not much.
Every pessimist thinks himself a realist. In the case of Cleveland sports fans, they are probably right.
Looking at SSR
it seems that the majority of the fans would prefer that he does not come back.
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
Does not surprise me at all. Shaq has not exactly endeared himself to the Kobe fanboys.
I have no problem with people from LA or the surrounding vicinity that have rooted for and will root for the Lakers for the rest of their lives. But right now I live abroad and 3/4 of the “Lakers” fans I meet can’t tell you the names of more than 4 Lakers. I have to imagine that at least half of the current Laker fans are really just Kobe fans. I know it won’t occur, but I wonder what would happen if Kobe walked away to play minor league baseball or something? My guess is there would suddenly be a lot more Miami fans.
That is one of the glass half full things about losing LeChiseler…it has cleared out some of the dead wood.
Every pessimist thinks himself a realist. In the case of Cleveland sports fans, they are probably right.
I can tell you right now
Guys like PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE and LakerUNLTD aren’t like that. They’re as dedicated as we are.
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
That is why I put the caveat in. Their names seem to indicate a long-term approach. I appreciate that, and did not want to offend them.
Before my dad, uncle and grandfather took me to my first Cavs game, I was a Laker fan. It was the first team I remember seeing on TV. They stopped being my 2nd favorite team after Magic and Kareem were gone. Those guys were easy to root for. Kobe irritates me, but I respect his skills and drive.
Every pessimist thinks himself a realist. In the case of Cleveland sports fans, they are probably right.
you can never say
You think that Laker fans are flaky, but go to any Lakers away game and you’ll see a dedicated crowd which follows the Lakers. Of course all teams have flaky fans, but i don’t think you can say one team is worse than another team.
Especially since Kobe basically IS the Lakers right now. Superstars like Kobe, who have been with the team for 14 years, basically turn into the team. The Lakers are made up of people, it isn’t some abstract notion. Thus, it is not really rational to say that people are Kobe fans and not Lakers fans.
The funniest part of your post, however, was basically admitting that you WERE/ARE one of these flaky fans, lol. I thought that was interesting. You made a big deal about Kobe fan boys not being true Lakers fans, and then you said that you used to be a magic/kareem fanboy and then ditched the Lakers after your guys left, lol. I know it wasn’t intentional but that’s what makes it funny.
but go to any Lakers away game and you’ll seea dedicated crowd which follows the Lakersthe bandwagon
I hate the steelers the way a mother loves a child.
by notthatnoise on Jul 21, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude, I was 10. I had never played a game of basketball on a non-nerf hoop in my life. The first time I ever watched basketball on TV, it was the Lakers vs. Celtics in the finals. I was impressed with their team colors, Kareem’s sky hook, and Magic’s no-look passes, and yes I will say it, the Lakers won. They were my favorite team for about 8 months, although I didn’t watch another game.
Shortly thereafter I moved back to Ohio, where I was born. My male role models took me to a Cavs vs. Celtics game. I didn’t have any idea who any of the players, other than Larry Bird, were on either team. I got Greg Kite’s autograph on a program. It was a cool night. The Cavs lost, but I had a new favorite team.
Whenever the Cavs were eliminated from the playoffs, I would root for the Lakers, because I liked Magic and Kareem. A few years later, ONLY AFTER the Cavs were out of the competition, I would root for the Bulls because I liked Jordan, until they played the Lakers, because I still liked Magic. There was never a question that I would be rooting for the Cavs to go as far into the playoffs as they could, but they never made it to the finals. I maintain a similar type of interest in the NBA playoffs now. When my team is out, I root for the teams with the players that I like. I am sure that most everyone does the same. This hardly makes me a fanboy.
What I was poking fun at are all the idiots on message boards ranting that Kobe is the greatest ever and how the Lakers are the best team in history. I wonder which of the two they would have given up on if they hadn’t gotten Gasol, and Kobe would have walked like he threatened to. I can’t stomach all the 16-26 year old fools that I meet because of my job, who “love” the NBA and the Lakers but have heard of only Kobe, Gasol, and maybe a couple of other guys. They are more likely to own a Kobe jersey because they saw someone wearing it in a rap video than because of any actual performance they watched him have in a game, live or televized. I have to imagine that Lakers’ boards are filled with scads of these guys, because more than enough of them trolled the Cavs boards over the past few years.
I can’t stand Kobe’s demeanor, but respect his game and his drive. I wish LeGutless would have had his competitive spirit, but I don’t find him easy to root for, so I was hoping Durant’s Thunder would eliminate them. I will continue rooting for Durant’s team now after the Cavs are eliminated, (which may be early). If the Thunder is out, I will root for some other team with a likeable player or two. Correct me if I am wrong, but I see that as being a fan of the game, and respecting the attitude of players who are also fans of the game, not as being a bandwagon jumper.
Every pessimist thinks himself a realist. In the case of Cleveland sports fans, they are probably right.
by evereye3 on Jul 21, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Book
Sorry, for the book length post. Something that he said struck a nerve. Working it out here is cheaper than therapy.
Every pessimist thinks himself a realist. In the case of Cleveland sports fans, they are probably right.
Rec
You tell him, everyeye3. plyka hasn’t watched the Cavs enough to understand how we feel.
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
Back at ya
Wow! Someone actually read through that whole screed.
Every pessimist thinks himself a realist. In the case of Cleveland sports fans, they are probably right.
Kobe basically is the Lakers?!?
Please, someone smack me if I ever say anything similar to this.
No one person, not even LeFraud, is an entire team. There is no debating that LeShirker was the best Cav over the last seven years and may very well be the best player to ever play for the Cavs, but the same seven years show clearly that a superstar does not equate to a team.
I am so glad that my interest in the Cavs neither began nor will end with LeSham.
Like Wave, I never owned his jersey.
Every pessimist thinks himself a realist. In the case of Cleveland sports fans, they are probably right.
yeah…but we can still get something for him.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Would more draft picks be too much to ask?
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
Why the interest in Ramon Sessions? He’s highly overrated and overpaid. He had one decent season in Milwaukee and that’s it.
Disappointing if this is the team the Cavs go into the season with. 30 win team at best.
Because the Cavs will either have to overpay pretty much to get anyone to come to Cleveland. That, I’m afraid, is the new post-LeBron reality.
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by woodsmeister on Jul 19, 2010 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
That’s understandable. Cleveland isn’t LA, Miami, NY. But there are certain guys worth overpaying for and the others aren’t. I don’t think Sessions is worth bringing in. $4M a year for a backup PG with no track record.
There’s money to kill this year, and not many option to spend it on. Grabbing some of these overachievers and building depth this year is really the only option. No one we sign or trade for this off-season is going to replace LeBron, so adjusted expectations are necessary.
Art Modell gives me a hard one
I think the focus needs to be using that trade exception. There are assets that teams want to unload. I’ll have to take some time to think about potential targets, but the exception is huge. It would be good to use it before the season versus in the middle of the season when it might be too late.
My understanding is that the trade exemption is only good for a year, and we may, in fact, get best value for the trade exemption as we approach the trade deadline. If we’re writing this year off (as we probably should), then overpaying for mid-level free agents is probably not the best way to go, especially if we can match up with someone shedding salary at the deadline.
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by woodsmeister on Jul 20, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe saving some money for the post-lockout, new-CBA world might not be a bad idea either. Get some young, hungry D-Leaguers and maybe find a diamond in the rough or two.
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by woodsmeister on Jul 20, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I was but then banished my loyalty after the Isiah-era became unbearable. Adopted the Cavs because of Lebron but now I still wanna see them do well.
Well, LeBron didn't sign with the knicks or the cavs
who knows, maybe cavs and knicks fans can finally become friends
Wanna change your name to gujucavalier?
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
its funny how his name is gujuknick but he became a member of SB nation within the last month or two…years after Isiah was gone…and hasn’t commented on the knicks site…Just something interesting…
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Don't make assumptions
I picked my screen name like 15 years ago and just re-use it every time i start an account somewhere. Email, message boards,etc.
As long as we end up with a better record than the Bulls and the Witnesses, I'm happy
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
He’s highly overrated and overpaid
really? he is an excellent passer and can run the point…especially in an up tempo offense. we have no one like this (no excellent passers, no one who can run the point in this new offense)…overpayed? He is making less than Boobie or Delonte…neither of whom can truly run the point.
Please inform me where we can get a 6’3’’ guard with long arms and excellent speed who can defend the position well, pass like lebron, and lead an uptempo offense and push the ball? Those players don’t just grow on trees. Lowry almost fit that description but he is shorter and not as consistent of a defender…Flynn is also shorter and still needs a lot of work as a defender.
When it comes to a pure skill set, Sessions is a lot like Rondo…except not nearly as talented.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Agreed
Sessions would be a fine choice, assuming the T-Wolves don’t get greedy.
Mo and Boobie are both not really pure points…and if we are going to run like they say we will, then we need a good distributor.
But can we put Mo at the 2 guard spot? This is what concerns me.
we probably can’t, but IMO, we can’t put him at the one in Byron’s offense and be successful.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
I am with you guys. We can use one guy in the Mo/Boobie mold, but not two. While Mo is currently the more potent offensive threat, he is older, less apt defensively, more expensive, and more likely to return a good player to us in a trade.
It is a shame to have to trade someone who actually wants to play in Cleveland, but Boobie is happy here too.
Side note: It is fun to write Mo/Boobie
Every pessimist thinks himself a realist. In the case of Cleveland sports fans, they are probably right.
sidenote…not as fun as boobie/pooh
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
I can’t figure out which I like more, Pooh/Boobie or Boobie/Pooh, both are funny, but a little gross…unless you are into that type of thing.
Every pessimist thinks himself a realist. In the case of Cleveland sports fans, they are probably right.
haha…I like boobie and pooh…
But this just reminds me of the janitor from scrubs…he’s pretending to be german and when asked why hotdogs and hamburgers are named after cities or something like that he responds (in a german accent) “why is your lake titicaca not filled with boobs and poop”
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I never knew much about sessions but I heard nothing but good things about him offensively
but what about his defense?
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 19, 2010 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
defense is very good. He doesn’t force a lot of TOs or get a lot of steals, but he is a quick, active defender who has a good wingspan. He is 6’3’’ which is big for a point with and above average wingspan and reaching range. He can contest shots and keep up with quick 1s, but just doesn’t make the stat-plays on D.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Sessions D
As a Wolves Fan- I would describe it as solid not elite. He was vastly superior to Jonny Flynn or Bassy in this area. He’s not going to hurt the Cavs on D. I think the best description is at worst (a Great Back-Up) with the potential to be a Solid Starting NBA PG.
This might not sound like much until you consider the current state of PG play in the NBA.
I’ll note about Sessions a lot of posters at Canis Hoopus were irritated with his lack of minutes throughout the season. We’re also dumbfounded as to the intrest in Luke Ridnour. The only logical conclusion being possibly a better mentor.
by Jose Cordoba on Jul 21, 2010 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Hello, Jose
I’m sorry about this summer. This really didn’t need to happen to you guys.
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
I would describe it as solid not elite.
thats what I heard. a solid defender, who has the quickness to stay in front of his man and can contest some shots.
I think sessions has a lot of potential and although he may never be elite, he has good quickness from what I have seen and can eventually be a similar type of player that rondo is now.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Cavs were very interested in Matt Barnes, but it seems just as with every other decent player we’re interested in he’s signing somewhere else. We’re what? 0 for 5? 6?
players like Barnes always ask for too much money.
players in their 30’s always act like they are god’s gift to the world. when they are not.
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 19, 2010 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
That is a good point, but at this point the Cavs have to get SOMEONE they’re interested in. Barnes would have been overpaid but he is a tough player.
at the same time I have to say that he is a rarity because of his "i dont give a F*%k"
attitude. If the Lakers dont get him I hope the Cavs do.
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 19, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
If we get him I must force myself to forget that he played for Orlando
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
It is somewhat understandable, Barnes needs to cash in now while he can. He hasn’t made as much as some guys, and has probably blown most of what he has made on tattoos. If he doesn’t get a fortune now, he might have to (gasp!) get a real job at some point.
Every pessimist thinks himself a realist. In the case of Cleveland sports fans, they are probably right.
tell me, evereye
Do you live on the west coast? I would think it’s past 2 AM in Ohio.
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Right now, I live in Prague in the Czech Republic. I read this stuff while I am having breakfast.
Every pessimist thinks himself a realist. In the case of Cleveland sports fans, they are probably right.
That
is bad ass. A Cavs fan in Eastern Europe.
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
You think that is bad ass? I work with a dude from Minnesota who is a Timberwolves fan. He coaches the Basketball team at the school I work at, and is my assistant coach with the baseball team. I tolerate his Twins fanaticism and wish we had someone with the spirit of Mauer. LeDodger could have learned a thing or two from a guy like that.
Every pessimist thinks himself a realist. In the case of Cleveland sports fans, they are probably right.
I’m a vegetarian so I eat mostly tree bark and such. I just finished some cereal that is shaped like Kix or Trix but tastes like coconut and is called “Romeo”. Some of the food here leaves a little to be desired. Especially if you aren’t into pork.
Every pessimist thinks himself a realist. In the case of Cleveland sports fans, they are probably right.
btw...are we allowed to curse on this site? lol
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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 19, 2010 11:01 PM CDT reply actions
fuckkkkkkkkkkkkk yeahhhhhh
dont ban me lol
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
lol
sweet!
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 19, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
You know...
I dont even fucking know! lol im just making shit up.
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
dork...lol
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 19, 2010 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
So I searched the F-Bomb (yeah, I'm bored) on FTS and SSR. Here are the results.
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
that is so cool that you did that.
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 19, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha yeah
I wanted to see if the things I was saying were out of line with the community here.
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
Dude, it's chill here
I tell you, comments are what separates a blog from an eccentric crying out to a world that doesn’t respond. Sites like Blazers edge can afford to ban people just for swearing because they get 1000 comments on every game thread.
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how did you get this info?
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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 19, 2010 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Top right corner of any SB Nation site.
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
good to know.
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by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 19, 2010 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I've used that plenty of times
Whenever I want to go back and revisit old game threads I participated on. Such good memories…
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You are allowed
I’ve cursed plenty while watching Cavs games
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
You should have seen the "The Decision" open thread...
We were saying some things that would probably even get us banned on SSR, haha. Luckily they were cool about it. I don’t think anyone got banned.
I live in Cincinnati. I'm a fan of the Cleveland Cavaliers and Cincinnati sports teams. Besides UC, I'm a Xavier fan for basketball. I also like the Ohio State Buckeyes for all sports.
My name is Tyler. So I guess now you know about me.
I didn't look
It’s like watching someone get shot. I couldn’t bear to watch and hung out on SSR.
Everyone’s going to remember where they were the night we heard the disgraceful news.
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
This is what I want to know from Cavs fans
How will they react to Lebron on his first game back? I heard rumors that when he does his talcum powder bullshit that Cavs fans will turn their back on him at the same time. that would be awesome.
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 19, 2010 11:09 PM CDT reply actions
Um, is he still gonna do that @#$%, lol.
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
his ego will die if he didnt do that shit.
lol. the same emotion that Cavs will put in adoring you will be the same passion they will put in hating him. Sine he is a home town kid I think they will break his heart in a way that he never expected.
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 19, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
lmao! that will never get old....
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 19, 2010 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, I checked out the tilted kilt
Man…it’s the hottest thing I’ve ever seen to bear the name “Celtic”!
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
does anyone on this site know who you are?
"If you want to find the dumbest guy in the room just find the first guy to tell you how smart he is." - JG
"The fact that the Lakers have played to such a high level even through the injuries is a testament to their skill, abilities, and resiliency." - 99bc99
by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jul 19, 2010 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
bross09 knows I have a split personality
But I think he’ll be stunned to find that she has her own account.
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
Hey guys
Sorry I haven’t participated in the conversation going here. I was eating dinner with family, and now I’ve got to run some errands and do some studying. I probably won’t get back here for at least another hour. But I want you to know that you guys are being real swell and making FTS ripe with activity. I’ll see if bluexfalcon can join us here.
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
His internet is down right now.
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
Back up.
I'm going to take my talents to... your mom... Literally every single team that's ever won a championship has done it without LeBron James.
Im coming to grips with the fact that the Twolves deal may be the only thing that happens right now,
I think Sessions and Koufos can help us out now
with that deal I think wed be looking at a line up of this nature
Pg Sessions
Sg Moe (Scott’s guard line ups usually mirror this type of set up)
Sf – Jamison (would rather see him come off the bench, hopefully Scott can get him to step up his D as well)
Pf- Hickson – (will have better numbers then Bosh this year – mark i t down)
C – Varejao – (would rather he come off the bench as well, but what can you do)
Bench -
Boobie
AP
Moon
Powe
Koufos
find a spot for Pooh
play with this line up for now and build towards the future
Im the poor man's corey maggette!!!
Why do you want Jamo to come off the bench?
by JulioBernazard on Jul 20, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
moon? is he really a starter?
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
No, why do you want ’tawn Jamison coming off of the bench?
by JulioBernazard on Jul 20, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree…who did you mean then by Jamo?
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
the one and only Jamario Moon
Im the poor man's corey maggette!!!
by Chucky Brown on Jul 20, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
my bad, you meant Jamison, hes a scorer / weak defender and supposedly he flourished as a bench player in Scott’s system under Eddie Jordan
Im the poor man's corey maggette!!!
by Chucky Brown on Jul 20, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Wut? Sure, KG ate him alive in the playoffs, but he’s certainly one of the five best players on the current roster, if not the best.
by JulioBernazard on Jul 20, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
telfair is in there for 2.7 million this year also
I root for Cleveland and anyone playing the Miami Heat
POOH must a find a way to sneak his spot
Im the poor man's corey maggette!!!
by Chucky Brown on Jul 20, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't forget Dyson...
I want to see a spot for Jerome Dyson on our team. That guy has some value if we can get him some playing time.
by Tiny iZ Boss on Jul 21, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I would much rather see...
Jamison get traded. Preferrably for a 2nd Round pick and a player.
by Tiny iZ Boss on Jul 21, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Good freaking luck
Who wants him now, at this stage of his career after how he played in the postseason?
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
I think people will look past that some…He played about 25 games in a completely new system before the playoffs…I think teams will give him a break…maybe the offseason isn’t the best time, but let him put up some good numbers in the regular season…He was playing in a system that he was completely unfamiliar with and didn’t fit his skills. Scott’s system IS Eddie Jordan’s system for all intensive purposes.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
It's nice to see some people from SSR try to liven this site up a bit.
And we don’t need any moves when we have the perfect replacement for LeBron, POOH JETER.
And yes, you’re only allowed to type his name in all caps. That’s the way it is.
I live in Cincinnati. I'm a fan of the Cleveland Cavaliers and Cincinnati sports teams. Besides UC, I'm a Xavier fan for basketball. I also like the Ohio State Buckeyes for all sports.
My name is Tyler. So I guess now you know about me.
(proudly) Yep. Those guys are my friends.
I'm a diehard Cavs fan, proud to say I never owned a LeBron jersey.
wow, there is action here at FTS!! now, its the Cavs organization who is inactive. i am a little confused why we wouldnt give Matt Barnes a 2 year deal for $10 million total. he is the best SF available and he can create his own shot, shoot, and play defense.
I root for Cleveland and anyone playing the Miami Heat
Rebuild. Stockpile picks and pray they get lucky in the lottery. Then pray that the star is more like Durant than Lebron.
Agreed. Don’t see any other move. No sense signing anyone over 31 years old to this team.
by kingcrimson2 on Jul 20, 2010 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
This is the course of action that makes the most sense in the long term. But unless you believe LeFraud was right and this current team is hopeless, we are only a piece or two, albeit at least one piece comparable to LeTurncoat himself, away from competing.
The trade exception is going to be more valuable to us close to the trading deadline. Lots of people are saying Melo doesn’t want to re-sign with the Nuggets. I don’t think it is likely, but who knows? If the current guys plus a bargain FA or two and an MLE type player can stay competitive and still be in the hunt for the playoffs come January/February, and something goes wrong in Denver (or someplace else), we might be able to convincel Melo (or another top tier 2011 free agent) to agree to a long-term contract just when Denver (or whoever) would be willing to accept almost anything to unload salary, and the upcoming CBA makes players want to sign any sort of long-term deal they can get.
We ought to be able to tell by December or so if this team, with an extra piece or two, really is hopeless. At that point, we could sell off anyone over 28 who has value to teams that are competitors and stockpile picks. There is no need to rush into rebuilding, nothing between now and the trade deadline is going to help us in next year’s draft anyway.
Every pessimist thinks himself a realist. In the case of Cleveland sports fans, they are probably right.
I appreciate your logic and optimism, but there is a .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 chance that we sign a top tier free agent,
Im the poor man's corey maggette!!!
I can't believe that Cavs fans are so pessimistic
I’ve always attempted to argue that Lebron James had a STELLAR supporting cast. The Cavs had the best record in the NBA for 2 continuous years. Anyone who thinks that the supporting cast wasn’t good enough is just plain stupid or blind. The 2 years as the best in the NBA proves as much.
Now that Lebron is gone, I finally get to see the result of his supporting cast, and I for one think it is going to be damn good. I was hoping that Shaq stayed, but this seems unlikely. If he came back for the minimum, it would be an ideal situation.
Even without Shaq, this is a playoff team. I can’t believe the overestimation on Lebron. No player EVER has or ever will be, able to turn a crappy team into the best record in the NBA. Is there much of a difference between Dwayne Wade and Lebron? Not much, and even though Wade had the 2nd overall pick in the draft a couple years ago in Beasley, not to mention other solid players, his team sucked it up big time. Did the Heat have the best record in the league for the last 2 years? No, and that’s because Wade’s supporting cast was no where near Lebron’s supporting cast. Even the GOAT, Jordan, couldn’t turn a bad team into a great one. When he left for those 1.5 years, the Bulls turned in one hell of a season. I believe they won 55 games without Jordan and should have made it to the Eastern Conference finals but for a blown call. Still, the 2nd round of the playoffs minus Jordan.
Lebron cannot even kneel at the feet of Jordan. Without Lebron, i figure this team will lose 10-15 more games. That still puts them in the 4-6 seed in the East. The Cavs will make it to the playoffs. Let’s just hope that the ownership isn’t as pessimistic as some of the fans and keeps this squad intact as much as possible.
by plyka on Jul 21, 2010 10:39 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
we have seen these guys play without lebron and they are able to battle to keep it a good game, but there is no closer to finish off the other team. look at what the Bucks and Bulls have done in this offseason….they will destroy us. the Pacers have a better lineup than we do. right now we are in a battle with the Pistons for last place in the Central.
I root for Cleveland and anyone playing the Miami Heat
You might be right, but Rocky might be right too. I think that this is why we don’t rush into either rebuilding or paying top dollar for whatever scraps are left on the FA table. If a quality guy is available at a reasonable price, sure. Otherwise, we wait and see. We will definitely know by Christmas if it is time to unload and wait for the draft.
Every pessimist thinks himself a realist. In the case of Cleveland sports fans, they are probably right.
Im not pessimistic, but we have no resonable shot at a “Max” guy coming here.
I do think we’ll be competitive (to a point) this year and I think we have smart basketball people in Scott and Grant who will continue to make moves throughout the year to move into a top 4 seed within the next 2-3 years
Im the poor man's corey maggette!!!
Cavs sign Samuels
From Hoopsworld:
The Cleveland Cavaliers have agreed in principle with rookie free agent power forward Samardo Samuels on a multi-year deal, agent David Bauman confirms.
The deal has partial guarantee in the first year, which means Samuels is likely to make the team. Cavs liked him before draft but didn’t have a pick.
I like this…Lots of upside…
He reminds me a bit of a slightly smaller, less polished version of Boozer. Both were incredibly strong and were great low post scorers and rebounders. Samuels is a little less polished defensively than Boozer was and not as good of a Defensive rebounder yet (but a very good player on the Offensive Glass).
Both guys have large wingspans which help them defend and rebound for being undersized. While Samuels is about an inch shorter (though I have seen him listed at 6’9), he has a good 2.5 inches of wingspan on Boozer and has almost a 7’5’’ wingspan from what I have read.
I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
I think you guys should go after Chris Paul.
by diehardNFFLbarnone on Jul 22, 2010 4:25 PM CDT reply actions
It's just not that easy.
We won’t get him. I can almost guarantee you that.
"Before I write I let my mind go blind and let the Lord do His thing. " -Tupac Shakur
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it looks like work." -Thomas Edison
No more running after 'Da Man'
We need some fracking balance after all those years of being a one trick pony. No one-true savior.
Wait for those who are interested in what we got. If that is Coach Scott’s system plus the other talent, then so be it. Paul isn’t gonna get traded to the good teams he supposedly listed, but he could potentially get traded to the Knicks (and god bless him if he were so stupid).
Barnes went to LA, good move he will get cush contracts for years to come for it, but he won’t get playing time or numbers. Mark it.
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