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Trade Deadline Recap

Thank you Clippers!
Duke PG Kyrie Irving (Left) and NC SF Harrison Barnes (Right). Co-MVP's of the Jordan Classic.
(Photo by Larry Busacca/Getty Images for Jordan Brand Classic)

It's been a crazy draft period but I think long term the Cavaliers will be better off. The Cavaliers dumped off Mo Williams contract and got rid of Jamario Moon while receiving another lottery pick. Sound great right? And I guess we picked up veteran PG Baron Davis as well so I guess there is a little bad news to all of this.

The Cavaliers also spent the high price of a 2013 2nd round draft pick for Celtics C Semih Erden and PF Luke Harangody.


Let me break down everything that has happened in the past 24 hours.

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Early this morning the Cavaliers agreed on terms with the Los Angeles Clippers to send Mo Williams and Jamario Moon to the Clippers while sending Baron Davis and an unprotected 1st round pick to Cleveland. 

An undisclosed source from the Clippers told Ramona Shelburne of ESPN Los Angeles went on record saying:

"That just shows you how much we hate this draft,"

Gee, with talk like that it's hard NOT to get excited about this draft class right? The Clippers may not be fans of this draft class but this lowly blogger thinks having 2 lottery picks may be a blessing to a team in need like the Cavaliers. And to be fair, the Clippers aren't the first team NBA fans think of when they're talking about competent front offices.

Then later in the day Cavaliers made an offer to the Celtics for 2 young players for a 2013, 2nd round pick. Semih Erden is worth that pick himself. He's a quality young player who plays with a high motor. The other pick up Luke Harangody wasn't a slouch in his college years playing for Notre Dame During his tenure he was the 2008 Big East player of the year along with multiple All American Awards.

Cav Fans need to stay positive, in this crazy 2 lottery pick world the Cavaliers could draft Kyrie Irving and Harrison Barnes. Or many other PG and SF combinations. The important thing is there is a great chance the Cavaliers can address needs with have a total of 4 draft picks 3 of which will be in the top 34. Let alone from the fact the cavaliers have helped upgrade their big men by adding young depth.

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havent been this excited since game one, Kudos Grant, now keep it rollin come late June

Im the poor man's corey maggette!!!

by Chucky Brown on Feb 24, 2011 4:43 PM CST reply actions  

Some pretty solid deals.

I wasn’t expecting any blockbusters and I honestly didn’t want any because we’re in rebuilding mode. I’m glad to see the team is ready to hit the “rebuilding” switch and not try to set us up to get a bunch of ex-stars and be mediocre every year.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Feb 24, 2011 4:45 PM CST reply actions  

HI SEXSALAD!

I love the Lakers and the Clippers. Why? They lost to the Cavs. And the Clippers kicked the Heat's ass!

by WaveOcean on Feb 24, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey, long time no see.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Feb 24, 2011 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

After getting both of Boston's backup centers, I don't feel so bad about the Clips trade anymore

I love the Lakers and the Clippers. Why? They lost to the Cavs. And the Clippers kicked the Heat's ass!

by WaveOcean on Feb 24, 2011 4:58 PM CST reply actions  

Harongody is a PF not really a 5.

Tweets like this make me happy though:
-“And why did they trade erden and harangody for 2013 SECOND round pick. Wtf?! SECOND round? Smfh”
-“What did Luke Harangody do to deserve this, by the way?”
-“I bet Luke Harangody was like wtf Celtics, I scored like 25 points one game and this is the thanks I get??”
-“What the fuck is wrong with boston? They tradin the kitchen sink n everything…The Cavs got Luke Harangody…hell naw”

Hopefully my picture doesn't show my bias.

by C Byers on Feb 24, 2011 5:22 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Isn’t Harangody more of a SF/PF? He is strong, but a bit undersized at 6’7’’-6’8’’

But i am with you. great deal. the Cs I have heard wanted to free up the roster spots. They supposedly are looking to get troy murphy or another player once they are bought out.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Feb 24, 2011 11:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Well that seems even better

cuz you aren’t conflicting with JJ as much. Seems like lots of matchups between the big (high motor??) Turk and the smaller (high motor!!) Brazilian and the two young PFs (even if one is really a SF).

bross if you are right then we did good. They had to subtract and we gave up nearly jack to get these two players. Su-weet.

Plus, I actually like getting a true, if suppoibly ‘lazy’ pg to let Sessions develop into the same type of role.

And then we look for the sg to make it all come together. Searching for Harper once again.

by Zcle on Feb 25, 2011 8:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I dunno who the brazillian is.

Harangody is a bit like Kenny thomas in a body more like glenn Davis. Thomas was a 6’7’’ PF who was crafty and a good shooter and post up guy. He is stronger than Thomas however and he will have a good career as a key role player.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Feb 25, 2011 11:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Definitely Not Bad

It would have been nice to get something to build on out of Antawn and the TPE, and I am shocked that nobody went for Parker. Overall though, after the draft the Cavs should be a team full of young guys that might compete in a couple of years assuming a bona fide star from the draft, improvement across the board, and jelling.

On a side note, I don’t really see the downside of taking on Baron Davis. Either he is happy collecting checks and sitting on the bench (it’s Gilbert’s money after all, not ours), or he really doesn’t want to be here and will want to be bought or play his way out. He might prove to be a tradeable asset, especially in two years time when he will be a sizeable expiring contract and we will likely need more help.

Now let’s hope there is no lockout, so that underclassmen on the bubble don’t decide to wait for next year.

Every pessimist thinks himself a realist. In the case of Cleveland sports fans, they are probably right.

by evereye3 on Feb 24, 2011 6:49 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed on Davis

overall.

Antwan is worth more next year, but the TPE I am worried about. Its limited by time…

We also got picks next year and the year after.

by Zcle on Feb 25, 2011 8:12 AM CST up reply actions  

It's a calender year thing.

I can’t tell you when exactly.

1st round draft wishes.
Bengals: Nick Fairley or AJ Green!
Cavaliers: Kyrie Irving and Harrison Barnes!

by C Byers on Feb 25, 2011 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I still can’t believe it!!! Danny Ainge virtually handed Miami a conference championship in one day.

I cannot wait to watch Fridays game against the Knicks. I hope the Boston big men are cleared in time. If so, Byron Scott can lay down the law. Hickson and Hollins should not even bother taking off the warm ups if I had a say.

Baron Davis is still a little dinged on the left knee. Lets be honest, Mo has been a shadow of himself most of the year with a bad hip.

If there is no strike, which I think is unlikely, I would trade Hickson for another 1st round pick. Seems like he’s not a winner but more of a whiner.

Most importantly, who goes? We have 16 players on the roster. I thought Gee at first but the Boston big man trade has me thinking Powe.

Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic. - Robert S. Wieder

by jerseywahoo on Feb 24, 2011 7:00 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t get this at all. Unless he has info that murphy will get a buyout and is very confident they have the offer murphy will take, this is ridiculous. i don’t exactly get why either team made this deal.

Oklahoma city gave up Green, Kristic and a 1st rounder for perkins and robinson. Unless they decide to play Serge Ibaka at PF, this move is stupid on their part. They already have an emerging young C/PF in Ibaka. They also don’t have a ton of depth at PF. If Ibaka starts at PF, it makes more sense, but still seems a bit of a waste to trade away a 1st rounder (even if they are desperate for grinders up front)

it makes no sense for Boston. I get that Garnett is old, but why trade for green? Green has been in the league 4 years now and seems to have plateaued as an average, athletic starting PF. They did get Kristic, but now Kristic is their starting C with Shaq as the key reserve? thats a disaster waiting to happen.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Feb 25, 2011 12:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I doubt Kyrie Irving comes out and there’s not another PG that the Cavs should even consider drafting in the lottery. That means they have to target 3-5. For a 3 I like Derrick Williams the most but I’d be okay with either Terrence Jones or Perry Jones (can play the 4 as well but is somewhat raw). As far as the 4/5 I like Enes Kanter, Sully and probably Jonas Valanciunas (think Z with more upside and way quicker) the most out of the big guys. I wouldn’t mind getting Norris Cole early in the second. I don’t see any potentially great pros in this draft class but I see a lot of guys that could be solid.

by ahowie on Feb 24, 2011 7:12 PM CST reply actions  

Actually man everything I've read

Kyrie is 1 and done.

1st round draft wishes.
Bengals: Nick Fairley or AJ Green!
Cavaliers: Kyrie Irving and Harrison Barnes!

by C Byers on Feb 24, 2011 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Irving is almost definitely coming out, he’ll go #1 overall. if we don’t get him then i’d take perry jones with our top pick and brandon knight with the second. I do like norris cole though as well in the 2nd round

by theleadoff on Feb 24, 2011 10:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I am not touching Kanter with a 10 foot pole. First you have the NCAA issues. They aren’t huge in a character sense, but that means he would not have played for a while. Secondly, he has had huge injury problems in the past.

I do like Valanciunas. I would love for Irving to come out and for us to take him and take a flier on Jonas. I thin Valanciunas has the potential to be a great pro, but he is still very raw. I think Irving will be a star in the league and Sully will be a great pro, just not a superstar. Sully is a lot like Elton Brand coming out and I think will have a similar career trajectory. Great player, solid #2, just not someone you can truly build around.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Feb 25, 2011 12:13 AM CST up reply actions  

If we got Irving and Jonas I would die of happiness.

by ahowie on Feb 25, 2011 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

So would I. I think Jonas has real potential to be a good C in the league. He is a little smaller and quicker than Kanter, but also has a clean bill of health.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Feb 25, 2011 11:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I take William Buford all day long with the Clipper pick. Great athlete, awesome jump shot, and he’s awesome at creating his shot. No idea why he’s so low on most draft boards. A better version of Michael Redd. He’s around 30 now but mark my words, he will rise up by late March. If there’s no strike!!!

I am interested in more guys like Kawhi Leonard and Fredette than 1 and done guys. I want winners and leaders. Fredette can create his shot. He’s a shorter PG built like a brickshithouse. However, we got a glut of 1s and 2s. Seems like we need a 3. I take Lighty in round 2. Lighty could guard 1-3 good ball skills, lock down defender, streaky shooter. Sounds like Landry Fields to me. I know I’m a homer but Ohio State is really good.

Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic. - Robert S. Wieder

by jerseywahoo on Feb 24, 2011 8:15 PM CST reply actions  

Thought of a great comparison to Fredette, Ben Gordon or Vinny Johnson.

Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic. - Robert S. Wieder

by jerseywahoo on Feb 24, 2011 8:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Fredette does not have the Athleticism that Gordon has. a comparison that seems pretty good for him is mo williams.

michael Redd also is significantly more built than Buford and probably a better ballhandler coming out than buford.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Feb 25, 2011 12:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Jimmy Fredette is going to be a boom or bust

He really is. He’s like the NBA Cam Newton haha

1st round draft wishes.
Bengals: Nick Fairley or AJ Green!
Cavaliers: Kyrie Irving and Harrison Barnes!

by C Byers on Feb 25, 2011 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I think he may never be a star, but I don’t think he will “bust”. Guys who have a shot like Fredette find a way to make an impact in the league. I kinda see him as a smaller JJ Reddick. Both were amazing shooters who had a knack for scoring but weren’t great athletes. another example is maybe a slightly slower mo williams. He could be a good score-first point guard in the league and if not a starting Guard, a shooter off the bench.

If taken in the top 10-15? Fredette may be considered a “Bust”. However, if he is taken a bit later, its a very nice pick

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Feb 25, 2011 11:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I like Leonard a lot.

by ahowie on Feb 25, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I dont see why somecavs fans are so negative about the trade. Baron is a big upgrade over Mo Williams. Sad to see him go though but I suppose that means im hangin around here a bit more.

by Sam50 on Feb 25, 2011 5:01 AM CST reply actions  

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