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Getting To Know Omri Casspi

As you know, the Cleveland Cavaliers made a deal with the Sacramento Kings right before the NBA went into a lockout. The deal sent J.J. Hickson to Sacramento and the Cavs acquired forward, Omri Casspi and a future, conditional first round pick from the Kings. Since I admittedly did not watch or study much of Casspi's game while he played for the Kings, the guys over at Sactown Royalty were nice enough to fill us in. Today, Aykis16 brings us an player profile of our newest Cavalier. Be sure to check out Sactown Royalty in the future to check up on how Hickson is doing in his new colors. Here you go:

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Omri Casspi is a very interesting player.  Back in 2009, I thought Casspi was a great sleeper pick sometime later in the first round and was thrilled when the Kings drafted him 23rd overall.  To me, Casspi was our Small Forward of the future, the return of Peja Stojakovic.  Alas, despite a great start in his rookie year, it wasn't meant to be.  This doesn't mean that Casspi can't still become Cleveland's SF of the future though.

There were a lot of reasons it didn't work for Casspi in Sacramento.  The main reason though was inconsistency.  Coming into the 2010-11 season, Coach Westphal left the starting SF spot up for grabs between Donté Greene and Omri Casspi.  Greene came into camp way out of shape, so the spot was Casspi's to lose.  Unfortunately, Casspi wasn't consistent enough to keep his spot, particularly defensively.  He was also disgruntled at having a diminished role in the team's offense.  Tyreke Evans and DeMarcus Cousins both demanded and got a lot of touches, while Casspi would wait impatiently on the wings and often not receive the ball, despite being open.  I can see why he was a bit miffed.  

The situation is much different in Cleveland however.  Baron Davis and Kyrie Irving are both true point guards instead of hybrids like Tyreke Evans.  Omri also has little competition for the SF spot in Cleveland (sorry Joey Graham).  On offense, Casspi's best attribute is his three point shooting.  He has a weird looking shot, kind of like Shawn Marion's, but he hits threes at a decent clip, right around 37%.  He's also very quick and athletic and loves running down the court on fastbreaks.  He's more explosive than he looks to, and while he'll never win any dunk contests, he'll dunk quite a bit.  On the other side of the ball, perhaps his best attribute is his defensive rebounding, where he's very good for a Small Forward.

His weaknesses are a bit more varied.  If you take a look at his FG% shot areas from Hoopdata here, you can see that aside from right at the rim or from 3 point range, Casspi is pretty inefficient.  He really needs to develop that mid-range game instead of just the spot-up three.  Casspi also isn't that great of a ball handler, so driving to the basket is a problem for him unless he has an open lane.  Defensively, he's plays tough and scrappy, but doesn't move his feet quick enough and so isn't all that effective.  He's also pretty thin still so he has problems with bigger players.  The good news however is that Casspi knows that defense is his biggest weakness and has said to the media that Defense and getting stronger would be his main focus in the offseason.

You have yourselves an intriguing young player in Casspi, Cavs fans.  He could end up being nothing more than a role player, but I think he has the pride, drive and work ethic to become more one day.  He's a passionate player, and very aware of the fact that he's an ambassador for his country, with all the eyes of Israel on him.  You should like him. 

 

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for the write up Aykis16! I like Casspi so this should work out for us. Now we have our covers for Lebrick and Bosh. Just need that DWade cover and we can know them out first round.

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by E5 on Jul 1, 2011 8:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Comment from a sympathetic midwest guy living in Calif. and seen a lot of Casspi.

I was stunned that Clev. didnt take Jonus for your future Center and went for a suspect rookie PF instead? The you trade off a very good but somewhat inconsistant PF (only 22) with great future upside for an inconsistant SF who has done nothing but disappoint after a brief nice start rookie year. What is the plan? Must be to loose games for a SF in next years draft?

I want Clev to be successful…just scratching my head on this?

by Only In Fairfax on Jul 3, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have seen a lot of hickson and he is not “very good but somewhat inconsistent”. he is a pretty good player when he tries, but he doesn’t always give 100% effort and almost never tries on D. Not only that, but he hasn’t improved all that much either. his shot is still almost as bad as when he came into the league and he isn’t dominating the boards like heshould.

Casspi’s athleticism and shot give him almost as good of an upside as hickson, plus at least he gives good effort and fits more of a need.

And while Tristan Thompson may be a “suspect rookie PF”, Jonas is even less developed in his game and is still a very raw euro player. Thompson is a year older, but also has experience with tougher competition

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your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Jul 3, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

What makes you think the Big 12 is tougher competition than the Euroleague?

by ahowie on Jul 3, 2011 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

guys who supposedly have “polished” games in the euroleagues do not have as good of rookie seasons as polished players from college. Dirk is a great example of this because he was considered a very polished and experienced prospect, but he took a couple years to become a very good player. Kevin Durant and Paul Pierce are just 2 players that off the top of my head adjusted well to the game.

I can give you more examples (relatively few euro players on 82games’ list of picks who most exceeded expectations, quite a high bust rate at the top for euros), but even euro players with experience over there often flame out and if they stay in the league, take longer to adjust than players who play in top college competition.

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your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Jul 3, 2011 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only confirms what I originally thought...

Casspi is an intriguing player, that’s for sure. However, as was pointed out in the article, he is nothing more than a role player at the moment. That isn’t to say he can’t become more, but I think we can all agree that Hickson’s potential is greater than his and is also a better player in the present. People may point to his apparent “lack” of motivation, but we also have to understand the weight that was put on his shoulders. He was a role player for a championship contender, then overnight, LeBron is gone and Hickson is front page news on NBA.com, being given the role of leader for the Cavs. While he started slow, he was one of the best power forwards in the league in the 2011 half, recording several double doubles and averaging an impressive amount of rebounds for his size.

The pick definitely evens out the trade somewhat, but when you really look at it, this could turn out to be nothing. Sacramento is in a very frail state and I’m unsure of how far they’re willing to go to get that team back to relevancy. If they don’t, it could be years before we see that pick.

Again, Casspi looks as though he could be a solid player in the NBA, but there are too many “ifs” in this deal for me to be comfortable with it. While Hickson’s inconsistency was frustrating sometimes, he had become a guaranteed 15-10 player by the latter half of the season, and that isn’t very easy to come across.

by Unbiased_Truth on Jul 1, 2011 10:17 PM CDT reply actions  

But he played very little defense and the Cavs have a ridiculous logjam at PF. The team is all-in on rebuilding. It’s going to take a while.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Jul 1, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

honestly, JJ is an average starter at best and a glorified role player at worst. I don’t see the big deal. Its not like we gave up a huge star in JJ. we traded 2 glorified role players/spot starters for each other. We just happened to get one that fit a much bigger need.

I don’t think we can all agree that Hickson’s a significantly better player at the present and has more potential. Hickson is still not a great rebounder and an awful defender. People are lauding his offense, but he still has no mid-range shot and is not much of a threat outside of 5 feet (under .350 EFG% on jump shots).

Hickson looked good this year because we fed the ball to him a lot on offense and he got a ton of touches. In reality, he hasn’t seen significant improvement in his game and he was nowhere near being one of the best power forwards in the league.

And, its not actually that hard to have a 15/10 guy on an awful team. Consider that he was getting a ton of touches and therefore could easily score 15 points. The, you have to remember that he was our only true rebounder at that point. He grabbed 17% of the rebounds when on the floor, but did not significantly out-rebound his counterpart on the other team. These stats tell us he feasted on being the only good rebounder on a crappy team.

I honestly think JJ could easily regress into a 12/7 guy in Sacramento. Unless he improves his game, he is a marginal starter at the PF (puts up 12/7 and passive on D). Cousins and Tyreke demand touches a lot (the cavs players did not demand that much) and he is going to lose touches.

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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Jul 2, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Pick

The pick is fine, everyone should chill out on that.

Statistically, there is no way the Kings are in the lottery straight for 6 years.

I am no mathematician but there is just no way, and its not even the full lottery but gets smaller over time.

Plus, if you look at their team, they have a very good chance to get out of the lottery within the next couple years. Evans, Cousins, Hickson, Freddette, Thompson…they need to replace Sam Delembert tho

The Sactown community is a rare beast in the sports world, every time I find a comment where its like, that dude’s cool, its always someone from SAC. Thanks Aykis16 for the analysis.

by Zcle on Jul 2, 2011 12:39 AM CDT reply actions  

The Kings are just not a good team now, and that makes everyone look bad. Westphal is not a good coach for the team and they will never learn D under him or build a solid offense.

This is really good analysis, cats&shoes, thanks for it. I ain’t trying to dog you guys, just laying down some truth.

The Kings are not a good showcase for most of their players. Casspi can’t be blamed much for being unhappy there.

The offensive analysis is tight, they don’t run well and so everyone gets stuck in lousy positions without any clear exit. And they have to press because they lose too much. And Evans is a ballhog.

Kid’s young, it takes a couple seasons to develop anyway. Hope he can improve on D, and fast break / corner 3 is enough on offense. Its more about taking quality shots that matters.

by Zcle on Jul 3, 2011 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep... Zcle

As talented as the Kings roster looks, the team was constantly forcing it offensively, what made the team-oriented roll players (Cisco Garcia, Pooh Jeter, Jason Thompson and above all Omri Casspi) bite hard into the unripe lemons. Any one of them should have had a better season – but it was not to be.
I disliked Tyreke’s way of running things, and I thought that the Kings would have done better with a guy who is two steps below in talent, but shares the ball (a Raymond Felton for instance). There is no doubt that Scott will not be as spine- less as Westphal, and if Kyrie goes for bonehead playes – Scott wil “slap” him and then tutor him, whlie Wesphal watched Tyreke make ball-hogging a habit and didn’t do nothing to “straighten” his main man.

by cats&shoes on Jul 3, 2011 4:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cavs got what they needed

JJ just didn’t want to be that inside force the cavs needed.
And now with this draft they improved 3 areas.
Point guard for the future revised the power forward and improved the small forward position.
Hopefully after the lock out we can get the shooting guard we need and get help at the center position.
The Cavs wasn’t a bad team last year but injuries just decimated this team.
And now they just got younger and better with this trade and draft the future truly looks bright for this team.

by maniactough on Jul 2, 2011 9:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

Improved the 3 a hell of a lot, doesn’t hurt us at the 4 that much. And that pick will come.

by Zcle on Jul 3, 2011 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is A.P going to stay to welcome Casspi?

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by HESS2479 on Jul 3, 2011 7:29 AM CDT reply actions  

he is a free agent so who knows…

Plus, if you are saying this because AP played the 3, he won’t be now that the cavs have a legit 3.

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your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Jul 3, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

He’s saying it because AP played in Israel, which clearly makes him and Casspi like family…

by ahowie on Jul 3, 2011 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh. I didn’t get that reference. I thought he was talking about competing for a job.

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by bross09 on Jul 3, 2011 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m ok with the trade but would have preferred giving them Sessions as well and getting unprotected first and maybe second rounders in 2ish years.

This helped our log jam at PF and got us another good young SF that could develop into maybe a starter but probably a real good back up on playoff team.

I agree it is unrealistic to think we would see the pick. The kings will get out of the lottery.

We still need a SG(hopefully next draft)/C most def(the center will most likely need to be a trade or FA)

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by ChewyFL on Jul 3, 2011 1:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeh... but

Lets say you have shipped out J.J. and Sessions – as you suggest.
So, now that Sessions is gone, you kinda need another PG, or a PG/SG combo, to back up the Rookie Irving and the Injury prone Davis.
 the Kings won’t do it – ‘cause they now have Jimmer and Reke, so a first rounder ain’t worth Sessions for them… they only can use Sessions as their fifth guard (Reke, Jimmer, Thornton, Salmons) to take the place of Pooh Jeter or so, and of course Westphal is not going to notice the obvios lack of a passing playmaker there… so, that ain’t worth loosing that pick the Cavs arn’t gonna see otherwise.
I can maybe see swapping Pooh Jeter and a Second rounder for Sessions, so you got a cheaper 5 minutes a game PG, and they get a real PG they lack… maybe.

by cats&shoes on Jul 3, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

This team really doesn’t need sessions. I like him as a player, but you don’t NEED 4 guys who can play the point. What this team needs is spot-up shooters on the wings with size who can play the 2 or 3, if possible guys with solid athleticism. Davis is injury prone, but more than adequate of a PG backup. Boobie may not be a true PG, but he can play in a pinch (PG/SG combo).

And I disagree that they couldn’t use sessions. Will jimmer develop? Will he start right away? The fact is, they do not have a “true” PG, the closest thing they’ve had is beno udrih. They are going to use Salmons at the 2, and Reke and Thornton are SGs (and only Reke can play there in a pinch).

They have a lot of guys who want the ball in their hands, but who will give it to them. Reke? Jimmer? They need the ball too. I think if we added Sessions, I could have seen us getting an unprotected pick possibly. maybe they didn’t want him, but looking from the outside, he does fill a need.

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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Jul 3, 2011 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, he does fill a need. But Westphal is never gonna notice it ;)

He is planning on Jimmering heavily this year at the PG.
Sac is a team that HAD a true PG (rodriguez), that had excelent distibution capabilities, and never ever used him due to the coache’s dumb policy of letting Tyreke destroy the offensive game by giving him 100% of the possesions.
So, you are right – they need Sessions, but won’t take him.

by cats&shoes on Jul 4, 2011 2:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

now we are talking about the difference between what is logical and what from an objective outside viewer is a need, and what coaches prefer.

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by bross09 on Jul 4, 2011 4:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

he has the pride, drive and work ethic to become more one day

It’s funny you hear this about so many players

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by The Licensed Pessimist on Jul 3, 2011 7:50 PM CDT reply actions  

…not JJ. I never heard that about JJ, I heard in fact reports that he sometimes loses focus during the game. Casspi truly hustles in a way that would rival Andy.

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by bross09 on Jul 4, 2011 4:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

So you didn’t think JJ wanted to be great but Omri does?

You always see the work ethic statement being used for players who don’t have the natural talent to succeed. It’s used by people who wants those players to succeed so they give them the “drive and work ethic” credit to give themselves hope and make the player look better.

JJ steadily improved year to year and that’s all you can ask for from a player who never made an immediate impact. I’ll take that over “work ethic” conjecture any day

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by The Licensed Pessimist on Jul 4, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

the “work ethic” thing is not just for players who do not have the natural talent. People praised the work ethic of Brandon Knight and he was one of the more athletic players in the draft. Omri hustles like Andy, but he also is at least above average in every area of “natural talent” except for strength (he is a bit soft).

2 different coaching staffs have been frustrated with JJ’s lack of work ethic, especially on D. JJ really doesn’t try on D and takes plays off.

JJ really hasn’t improved between his 2nd and 3rd years, he has just gotten more minutes and been fed the ball more since Lebron left. He also didn’t have to compete with Andy/Lebron for rebounds this past year.

In reality, he is still hasn’t improved his ballhandling, his jump shot, his defense, or his overall rebounding since he came into the league.

Basic stats do not tell the whole story and they benefit JJ.

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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Jul 4, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

the "work ethic" thing is not just for players who do not have the natural talent. People praised the work ethic of Brandon Knight and he was one of the more athletic players in the draft. Omri hustles like Andy, but he also is at least above average in every area of "natural talent" except for strength (he is a bit soft).

But no one talked about BK being a dominant player. Essentially, you barely hear about good or proven players having this “work ethic” because they don’t need it to fall back on unlike unproven and untalented players like Casspi

JJ really hasn’t improved between his 2nd and 3rd years, he has just gotten more minutes and been fed the ball more since Lebron left. He also didn’t have to compete with Andy/Lebron for rebounds this past year.

this is one of the biggest logical fallacy one could use in this situation, and one I expected to come from you sooner or later. You’re essentially coming up with excuses as to why he’s improved, rather than acknowledging the fact that he’s improved within itself.

I honestly could care less about hickson and don’t have the desire to defend him, but he’s better than Casspi and will end up being better than Tristan most likely. And I don’t have the desire to see you make excuses as to why Casspi’s “work ethic” cause him to regress last year, as the fact that the only attribute you can bring up for him is something that can’t be quantified, and that speaks volumes about what he has to offer.

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"Fine" I said, "I want to die after the Browns win the Super Bowl !"
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by The Licensed Pessimist on Jul 4, 2011 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had this long response up but then my laptop shut down…its for the best though. You alternate between being a troll and an arrogant moron and neither are worth that type of attention, so I will abridge it.

-Kobe is considered one of the hardest working players in the NBA and I have heard his work ethic praised on numerous occasions. Boom!

-more playing time and more touches=/=improvement. JJ’s jumper is still just as awful as when he was drafted. Why is he scoring more? there is no one else on the team to score and he gets offensive touches. rebounding? His net rebounding hasn’t gotten any better since he was a rookie. Boom!

-Omri Casspi suffered from ballhogs and a lack of playing time. He was a 12/6 player as a starter DESPITE playing with ballhogs in Tyreke and Cousins (both need the ball a ton). There are no “ballhog” players on the cavs, he could score 14-15 points w/more looks. Boom!

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your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Jul 5, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahaha Boom!

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by ChewyFL on Jul 5, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

J.J shooting

percentages actually went down. I will give him credit on his improved rebounding that said it is true that the team lost significant rebounders from last year so that could account for his improved rebounding. Also he didn’t improve till Coach Scott was all over him.

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by E5 on Jul 5, 2011 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

though his “improvement”:

a) also coincided with when there was no one in the frontcourt to compete for points/rebounds with

b) only seemed to be a statistical improvement, mostly caused by more playing time.

I figured out a rough estimate of his PER for before the all star break and it was slightly under 15.5. His season PER was 15.6. His PER was better in the 2nd half, but not by the leaps and bounds the basic stats will tell you.

All of those games in the second half were without Anderson Varejao and most of them came without Antawn Jamison, making it difficult to project what his numbers would look like with NBA-caliber big men around him again.

For as many monster nights as Hickson produced last season, there were enough spotty performances in his first three seasons to irritate two coaches — Mike Brown and Byron Scott.

From an article by Jason Lloyd of the ABJ. He says it well here.

I don’t think JJ sucks, I just think that while he did improve in a few areas (his post game seemed more focused and he was a better FT shooter), overall he did not show a ton of improvement over ‘09-’10 and unless a coach can get to him, this may be what he is (a 14/8 PF with little defense or game outside of 5 feet)

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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Jul 5, 2011 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m excited by the deal. I think Aykis 16 and Cats & Shoes did a great job wrapping up Casspi’s strengths and weaknesses. Once the Cavs drafted Thompson, Hickson was out the door, and the handwriting was on the wall before then.

The Cavs badly needed a 3, and they got a young one who needs to prove himself, but has the tools to do just that. I’m no Kings expert, but I remember watching the Kings-Cavs during Casspi’s rookie season and him being one of the King’s players who really stood out to me. If for nothing else, I like it because he is a scrappy player who doesn’t back down. I think he’ll be a pleasant surprise this season.

by Erie's Scribe on Jul 3, 2011 7:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I like Casspi. He’s not a good defensive player, but he can shoot and gives you effort all the time. He’s a team guy. I’d take him over Hickson any day. I’m not sure how he’s going to do on the Cav’s..but with certain other teams he would be a very good fit.

by tenkaistar on Jul 3, 2011 9:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Now they just need a consistent offensive player.

We need someone who can create his own shot. We have the Defensive presence of Varejeo, but he may not fit Scott’s fast paced Offense. Thompson is a project right now and will be inconsistent. Irving is a creater, not a consistent solo shot maker, and Davis is the same right now too. Sessions is a great 6th man, who can light a fire from the bench. Casspi and Jamison will be good post and spot shooters, but not solo offense. What the team needs is someone who can consistently take it to the rim. With a glaring hole at SG, sorry Manny Harris (no, a duel backcourt of sessions, davis, or irving will not work) there are three SGs that would fit very well in the starting spot, whenever Free Agency begins.

Jamal Crawford: Seems to be happy in ATL, but that team is in transition. Could be interested in regaining a starting slot, though he has rocked it as a sixth man the past couple seasons. Creates his own offense, and would fit well next to Irving.

J.R. Smith: Clearly on the out in Denver. Can be a pain in the coach’s arse at times, but his offense is top tier in the league. Leaves a lot to be desired on defense, but with the right scheme and coaching, that could be avoided.

Jason Richardson: Became somewhat of an afterthought on an offensively crowded Orlando team. Is in the top tier of the NBA in offense and has a great locker room presence. Perhaps the best fit of the three for Cleveland. Just hope that he is willing to come here and play on a very very young team.

by In Marvin I Trust on Jul 3, 2011 11:13 PM CDT reply actions  

interesting suggestions.

I don’t think JR Smith is that “creator” He is best as a spot-up shooter who can occasionally create when given the ball and when needed. He isn’t the creator that the other 2 are, but would probably be the best (albeit most overpriced) option of the 3)

Jason Richardson is getting older. There is no need to get a guy of his age on a young team…to win now? If how he played for Orlando is any indication of where his skills are right now, I will pass.

Crawford is a tiny bit older than Richardson, but would also come much cheaper. He would be the perfect player if he wants to leave. The problem is, he probably doesn’t.

At this point, I can take another season of manny at the SG rather than spend 10 million a year on Jason Richardson and go nowhere for longer.

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Intensive Purposes? I could care less...
your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Jul 4, 2011 5:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Alot of choices out there after this Lock out is over.

Who knows Hamilton out of Detroit may be a option alot of teams will be looking to make trades I believe and I believe we have a owner who wants to win and will do what he thinks is best for this team and will be willing to spend to get better.
There will be lots of options out there and not everyone will be liked but they are there.
Brandon Roy may be available and I would like to see him come here for a decent price who knows but I do have faith in this team and ownership and expect alot in the coming years.
GO CAVS make us proud.

by maniactough on Jul 4, 2011 11:54 AM CDT reply actions  

if Roy does come here, i hope it is for cheap and very few years. He literally has no cartilage in one (maybe both) of his knees. But I doubt Portland cuts him anyways, They most likely will get some sort of amnesty for his bloated deal in the new CBA and will stick around. He really likes the Portland area.

by talonk on Jul 7, 2011 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

True

But if we could get Roy bad knees and all he would be a great one to come off the bench A reach I know but be a good one to get.
And Portland seems ready to say bye to him alot can happen I know but still would like to get him.

by maniactough on Jul 7, 2011 11:56 AM CDT reply actions  

As sad as it is - Roy is done...

Above that – if he wants to be able to walk his kids to school, he has to quit BBall now. very sad.
Coming off the bench is not a solution. Remember – 80% of the “Mileage” comes from practice. Players may get injured during a game – but these kind of injuries that are caused by “the grind” are accumulated during practice.
So – he can only MAYBE practice twice a week and play 15 minutes per game, and under a great risk that is…

by cats&shoes on Jul 7, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Casspi

Kings fan here wanted to chime in on the topic. truth is on a team like ours is right now the only real use we had for casspi was as a spot up shooter since we have so many ball dominant players who like to score near the basket. with that said, he didn’t warrant many more touches than he got simply because the guy literally CAN"T handle the ball. your staff really needs to help him improve on a few of those big holes in his game before he’ll ever contribute the way he’ll need to be a typical starting SF. I don’t think i once saw a play whee casspi created for himself off the dribble. Now, obviously the point of this post wan’t to bag on casspi because he comes with some very unique talents as well. He’s nasty, i mean, the kind of guy who can make one play and get the arena rocking, so in that sense you guys should very much enjoy watching him.

by boffacheerios on Jul 10, 2011 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

He has a high dribble, but is far from being a Kwame

Not a good dribbler and doesn’t change direction quick enough with the ball, but has quite good hands generally.
In the happy rookie season days, when he had these 20 points games, some of them were indeed layups from penetrations. This was possible because Casspi didn’t have to start from beyond the 3pt line, against a well positioned and prepared defense, with 2 seconds on the clock – a thing that happend WAYYY too much in this last season, and is due to the happy ballhogging duo that dominated the Kings offense.

by cats&shoes on Jul 12, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

he definitely needs to work on his dribble, and maybe practice his midrange which regressed, but he definitely has the skills. If he can become a decent dribbler, I think he can be a better Hedo Turkoglu

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.
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your whole argument is a fallacy!

by bross09 on Jul 13, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Response to the Kings fan

Casspi may need to learn the dribble better but that is what coaches are for and I believe this staff will be able to address that need on him.
So I think that was a great trade for both teams just think it was a better one for the Cavs.

by maniactough on Jul 11, 2011 1:38 PM CDT reply actions  

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