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Game #9 Recap: Cavaliers 105, Jazz 113

The Cavaliers fell to the Utah Jazz Tuesday night by a score of 113-105. It was kind of a weird game, honestly. It was one of those games where I'd be watching and feel like the Cavs were down by 10 or 12 and then look at the scoreboard and see that it was a 4-point game. I guess you could say that it's encouraging that the Cavs obviously didn't play great and were still in the game for the most part. Regardless, the Cavs ultimately lost and fell to 4-5 on the season.

Cavs Leaders: Points: Jamison, 22; Rebounds: Varejao, 11; Assists: Irving, 5

Quick Thoughts:

The Cavaliers got absolutely dominated in the paint. Dominated. Al Jefferson had 30 points. Paul Millsap had 19 points. Derrick Favors had 14 points. The three Utah big men combined to shoot 27 of 33 from the field. That's just a casual 81%. EIGHTY ONE PERCENT. Let that sink in for a second.

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Okay, got it? EIGHTY ONE PERCENT. The Jazz as a whole shot 59.3% and scored 56 points in the paint. That's not good. In the second half, the Jazz basically just scored at will. It was pretty frustrating to watch because Byron Scott did not make a switch and just continued to let Antawn Jamison and Semih Erden get abused in the post. He refused to double-team and for some reason, felt the urge to only play Tristan Thompson for 16 minutes. Hm. Tigger is one of the only guys on this team that can protect the rim and block shots effectively, yet he remained on the bench for most of the game. I'm not trying to overreact to the first 9 games on the season, but Scott's rotation minutes have been curious thus far.

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I have to give Scott credit for keeping everyone's minutes down, however. It's a rough schedule due to the lockout and the rookies are not used to playing every other night or more frequently. It's a trade-off. While I'd like to see Kyrie and Tigger on the court for 35 minutes every night, it's probably best for them to ease into the rigor of an NBA schedule and not wear them out in the first month of the season. So, props are due there.

Omri Casspi continues to underwhelm. I've been hinting at it for a while now, but I'm pretty much ready to say that Alonzo Gee needs to start at SF. He's basically outplaying Casspi in every single facet of the game thus far. That is not to say that I am giving up on Casspi, because I'm not. I still think he can develop into a solid SF for this team, but he's not there yet. You've got to reward the guy who is producing and playing better. Casspi just doesn't look comfortable out there. I'm rooting for Omri, but Gee has been much better so far. Start him, Byron.

Notable Performances:

I guess we can talk about Antawn Jamison. After a horrific start to the season, Tawn is starting to come around to what we basically expected from him. He's scoring, albeit not efficiently. 22 points on 18 shots is not efficient, but on this team, the points have to come from somewhere. He's playing garbage defense; what else is new? He took a charge last night, which shows that he at least kind of cares. He has, at least temporarily, made me stop yelling at him every time he touches the ball; progress!

Semih Erden saw his first serious minutes of the season for the Cavs Tuesday night. Neither Ryan Hollins nor Samardo Samuels got any of the backup center minutes, while Erden played 17. He seems a little out of shape still, which is to be expected. He was essentially a non-factor against Utah, but I think it's fair to say that he's probably better than Hollins. I do think Samuels should be in the rotation to some degree, but we'll see. Scott seems to be favoring Semih at the current moment. That could change.

I already griped about Tristan's limited minutes against the big frontline of the Jazz, so this time I'll talk about the minutes when he was actually on the court. In 16 minutes, Tigger did his usual. He brought lots of energy and scored 9 points while grabbing 5 rebounds. He had 2 steals and a block as well. There was one play when he blocked a shot and just grabbed the ball. He didn't toss it into the stands or slap it off the backboard. He just blocked it and took it away from the shooter. It was awesome. At another point, TT blocked a shot that was just barely on its way down. He got called for the goal tend, but he was an impressive effort nonetheless. I really hope that nobody on the Cavs bench is discouraging the rookie from going for those blocks. I'd much rather have him be ultra-aggressive and get called for the occasional goal tend than be hesitant when it comes to blocking shots.

Fear The Sword's Player Of The Game:

Kyrie Irving

The rookie point guard once again proved that he is the only one on this roster who can create for himself on the offensive end. He notched his 3rd career 20-point game and did it on only 14 shots. I know we all want to see the assist numbers go up a little bit, but how can you complain about a guy who is averaging 15-5 just 9 games into his NBA career? He had another couple sweet moves to get to the rim and score in the paint. I was doing some math last night and determined that if you take out his two crappy games against the Raptors, Kyrie is averaging 17.3 points per game on 50% shooting. Seems pretty awesome to me. Just keep Toronto away from him and we've got a stud on our hands.

Poll
Who deserves POTG honors?
Kyrie Irving
16 votes
Antawn Jamison
2 votes
Ryan Hollins for not screwing up and accidentally playing in this game
12 votes

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As I’ve outlined on the site I’m as baffled as anyone by the rotation although I know everyone and their mom has “a better” way to dole out the minutes and I have written that I still think Casspi should start. You can tell he is a man of little confidence.

by johnf34 on Jan 11, 2012 11:39 AM CST reply actions  

Valid. Maybe at some point you want to light a fire under him by taking him out of the starting lineup .

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Jan 11, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

You’d think a fire would be already lit though because of how his minutes keep decreasing. Scott has said he doesn’t like changing for 10 games though so I expect things to remain the same in Phoenix but then we’ll see..

by johnf34 on Jan 11, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

I have to agree with johnf34, I don’t think it’s a lack of “lighting a fire under him” that is the issue. In general we’re talking about a very small sample size of games at this point. Additionally, he’s now in a new system on a new team, with little training camp/pre-season to speak of. These things should be taken into consideration to a degree. Further, he is destined for a gig as a SF off the bench. I don’t think anyone has any delusions about the guy. At the same time, Alonzo Gee isn’t likely to any more of a player than Caspi, and certainly has less of a track record that would indicate otherwise. Who starts or not isn’t really all that important, as long as both get a share of minutes at the SF position throughout the season to help provide enough of a sample size to base a decision on who should later assume the SF role next year (presumably there will be a draft pick or FA that would come in to usurp the current starting spot, and then either Casspi or Gee will be needed as a reserve).

by hans on Jan 11, 2012 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

So you don’t care who starts? I know who finishes the game is more important than who starts the game, but I see no reason to start Omri when Alonzo has obviously played better thus far. Switch it up, see if it makes a difference.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Jan 11, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

haha, yeah I know I kind of painted myself into a corner there. I re-read above that your inital argument was to “reward” Gee for his play. Which I don’t have any necessary disagreement with, but on the flip side, I don’t think it will be much of a factor in turning around Casspi’s slow start at this point. So if you are keen on developing Alonzo Gee as a future asset for this team ahead of Casspi or view both as fungible prospects, then I wouldn’t have any problem with starting whoever. But I wouldn’t see it as meaning anything other than a “reward” for the guy who happens to be having a better performance that may be luck based due to small sample size.

by hans on Jan 11, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, small sample size or not, it’s all we have to base Casspi on thus far. He simply hasn’t played well with the Cavs. Maybe he’ll play more relaxed by coming off of the bench. I think it’s worth a shot.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Jan 11, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, you can’t just throw out “small sample size or not”. Small sample size precludes conclusions from being made.

You may be right, you may be wrong. It’s also at least as possible that you are just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. If, after talking with Casspi, Byron Scott observes that Casspi is struggling with the “pressure” at the spot and accepts the demotion to the bench as a learning experience, then fine, go for it. But I wouldn’t base the decision on his statistical output thus far, as there simply isn’t enough to make a determination.

I guess what I’m getting at here is, this shouldn’t be a criticism of Byron Scott. If anything, in a season like this, being able to make “fewer moves” is prudent and a luxary that shouldn’t be ignored. This season’s Cavs will provide a large set of data to help build the future teams that will hopefully compete for and in the playoffs down the road.

by hans on Jan 11, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

You’re right. I acknowledge that many of our ideas are based on speculation because we aren’t in the locker room, practice court, benches, etc. It’s not a big enough deal for me to really get upset about.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Jan 11, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

With the Kings, he played better when he started.

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by PurpleLoco on Jan 11, 2012 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Good to know. Hm.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Jan 12, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

If the hockey shifts continue all season, I hope that they mix up the groups in the next month. I would love to see Tristan, Varajeo, Gee, Gibson, and Irving on the first wave and Jamison, Erden/Samuels, Casspi, Parker, and Sessions on the second wave.

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by jerseywahoo on Jan 11, 2012 11:53 AM CST reply actions  

that first lineup sounds athletic, energetic, and just fun as hell to watch in general. I want to see more tristan and irving together…

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by brandeezy09 on Jan 12, 2012 12:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Erden was an absolute disaster in this game. Defense blew a tire in general and we had no answer for Utah’s offense. However, I can’t recall the last time we had so many free throws. Excellent job at drawing the fouls.

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by Heavysoviet on Jan 11, 2012 12:31 PM CST reply actions  

True, the refs were friendly towards us. Erden was bad, but he’s got to get some minutes to get back into the flow of things

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Jan 11, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought that aside from the fact that the Cavs don’t have much of any interior defense (with Andy being used as a center instead of a PF particularly), that the game was pretty good. I mean Utah took advantage of the limitations of many of the Cavs players.

Antwan Jamison’s defense is poor not because he lacks effort on the defensive end (well not entirely anyways), but because I believe it is safe to say that at this point in his career he’s proven that he isn’t “skilled” as a defender. In fact he is below average for his position. I’ve long come to accept this and accept the fact that he’s going to give away alot on the defensive end that he adds on the offensive end. But he is a “scorer”, and the team really doesn’t have that type of player outside of Kyrie Irving and Ramon Sessions to a degree, with both of the latter being point guards that you would prefer to dish the ball first rather than look to score with.

Semih Erden looked like a guy who is tall and happens to be on the court at the same time that basketball players are using it. I’d like to see him continue to get minutes at the expense of Ryan Hollins, who I have a growing belief is already looking for life beyond the NBA and was more than happy to pick up his couple million dollar player’s option this past offseason and ride out what will likely be his highest salaried contract year of his career. Erden and Samuels getting minutes at the 5 behind Andy would be fine for the first half of the season. I hold a dream that Antwan Jamison works himself into a trade out of town by the deadline and opens up the PF position to a mix of Andy and Tristan Thompson while Erden and Samuels split even more minutes at the C position.

by hans on Jan 11, 2012 2:26 PM CST reply actions  

Semih Erden looked like a guy who is tall and happens to be on the court at the same time that basketball players are using it.

hahahaha

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Jan 11, 2012 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’d love to trade Jamison too. I still believe that Andy is a valid 5 in this league though. Don’t know why people are so eager to move him to the 4

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Jan 11, 2012 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

It’s not that Andy can’t play the 5, I think he’s still a solid defender at the position in general. But I believe he’s better suited physically to defend against 4s. The 4 also happens to highly populated in comparison to the 5 with offense-first players on most other teams. I think we’d be able to squeeze more value out of Andy there (though I also believe this whole thing is more complicated if you switch up rotation spots and put Tristan Thompson in the game at the same time as Andy, in that case we’d already have a defense-first player at the 4 and could utilize Andy’s defense at the 5).

As the roster is currently constructed I’m okay with Andy at the 5, but if the Cavs are ever able to get a strong two way center (I know it’s a pipe dream probably ) then Andy’s value at the 4 skyrockets in my opinion.

by hans on Jan 11, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Truth. I think the Cavs are wise enough to play Andy on either the 4 or 5 of the opponent, depending on who is a bigger offensive threat. By playing him at the 5, you aren’t locked in to having him guard the opposing center. For instance, you can put Andy on Garnett while letting Jamison deal with whatever washed up center the Celtics are using right now.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Jan 11, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

ha, I still see Jamison being abused by said washed up center in that situation. Jamison is just that bad defensively.

by hans on Jan 11, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Not offensively for sure. But basically we’ll just move him to defend the better post threat on the opposing team.

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Jan 11, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, he’s not an offense-first 4, but who said you need an offense-first 4? He’s proven over the past few years to be a great defender on opposing team’s 4s as well as a good rebounder against those types of players. He’s been aligned next to Z and Shaq during that time, and excelled. At the 5 he’s solid but not exceptional, as his height and size limits him against the “true” centers in the league.

by hans on Jan 11, 2012 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

“The true centers in the league” …you mean all two of them?

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Jan 11, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah you do got me there. There’s probably closer to 4 or 5 guys that really fit the mold of a player that Andy would struggle with because of size. So my observation that he’s merely “solid” at the 5 may be an overstatement a bit. He’s probably exceptional in general, just not against those “big body” types.

by hans on Jan 11, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

This is true. Which is why I have no problem trading Andy and drafting…Drummond?

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by Conrad Kaczmarek on Jan 11, 2012 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

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