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The Cleveland Cavaliers' selection of Dion Waiters in 2012 was mildly shocking. Almost two seasons of Waiters have left perhaps more questions than answers. I don't think anyone knows how good he is, or how good he could be. He's a talented guy. I thought I would check in with eraulli (Alex), a Syracuse and Cavs fan that has followed Waiters for some time, to see what he thinks about Dion's second season in the league.
We started this email chain on February 13th. As you will see from the dates on the emails, this is entirely my fault. Unfortunately for the Cavaliers, but fortunately for this blog post, Waiters hasn't played much since.
David (2/13): Hey Alex, it has been too long. It's been a pretty turbulent year for the Cavaliers and Dion Waiters has been no exception. Things appear to be on the up and up. So the first thing I'd ask you is pretty simple: As a Syracuse fan that loved Waiters there, and has followed him for a year and half, are you still as high on him as you were during his sophomore season there? What has been the most encouraging thing you have seen in his play this year? What, if anything, has you worried?
Alex (2/14): It definitely has been a rough year for the Cavs. The last few games have been a nice surprise, though, so my optimism is temporarily restored. I have to say, though, that before this 4 game win streak I was becoming quite convinced that it wasn't going to work out with Dion on the Cavs. I fully expected him to be traded before the deadline.
Tristan On
|
Field Goals Made |
Field Goals Attempted |
% Made |
% of Shot Attempts |
Restricted Area |
53 |
108 |
49.1% |
28.1% |
Paint - Non RA |
7 |
23 |
30.4% |
6.0% |
Mid-Range |
59 |
158 |
37.3% |
41.0% |
Corner 3’s |
10 |
20 |
50.0% |
5.2% |
Above Break 3’s |
23 |
76 |
30.3% |
19.7% |
Tristan Off
|
Field Goals Made |
Field Goals Attempted |
% Made |
% of Shot Attempts |
Restricted Area |
42 |
90 |
46.7% |
35.7% |
Paint - Non RA |
2 |
11 |
18.2% |
4.4% |
Mid-Range |
48 |
90 |
53.3% |
35.7% |
Corner 3’s |
2 |
11 |
18.2% |
4.4% |
Above Break 3’s |
22 |
50 |
44.0% |
19.8% |
Some important points:
1) When Tristan is on the court, Dion takes more mid-range jumpers and less shots at the rim.
2) As a result, Dion's efficiency on mid-range shots is very bad with Tristan on the court (and really good with him off the court!).
3) Dion has also been significantly more efficient on above the break 3's with Tristan off the court. Possibly because he's more of a threat to take it to the rim? Or possibly just noise, I'm really not sure.
4) Dion has been much more efficient on corner 3's with Tristan *on* the court. Very small sample size, and likely just noise, but worth keeping an eye on. Perhaps he should heading to that spot more often when they share the court.
Here's my interpretation of all this data:
Dion has an elite first step. He can get to the rim pretty much anytime he choses to. The threat of this allows him to create space for himself on the perimeter. However, this only works when the player guarding him is actually worried about him getting to the rim. If he knows there will be 1-2 bigs there to meet him every time he tries then he might be more willing to concede that and focus on not giving up a good jump shot.
Basically, Dion needs space to operate effectively. When he's given this space he really is capable of being the offensive dynamo that he already believes he is. Unfortunately, Tristan doesn't provide any space by himself. For a Dion-Tristan pairing to ever work we would need a center with legitimate 3-point range.
This brings me to the Spencer Hawes trade (which happened after we started this email exchange!). As we know, Hawes is an excellent above the break 3-point shooter. He might be just what we need to make the Dion-Tristan pairing work much more efficiently. Once Dion is healthy, we really need to get the Dion-Tristan-Hawes trio as many minutes as possible. This will help us determine if Dion and Tristan will ever be able to work together, and if Hawes is worth signing to a long-term deal.
To wrap this up, I just wanted to touch once more on Dion's progress this year and long-term potential. Looking at Dion's shot-charts earlier, we've seen that he's shown significant progress as a jump shooter. Those numbers get even better when Tristan has been off the court, giving him more space to operate. Heading in to the year, this was probably one of the biggest concerns with Dion's game. Looking forward, what potential do see for Dion if this progress continues?
David (3/3): Some really interesting stuff there Alex. I think one of the most disappointing things about the Chris Grant era was, okay, we lost a lot of games and have Kyrie Irving, Tristan Thompson, and Dion Waiters to show for it - and there was never an effort to put together a roster that made sense for any of them. It isn't right that Irving and Waiters don't have a pick and roll or pick and pop option. It isn't right that Thompson's skills overlap with Anderson Varejao's. At a certain point, if you want your picks to work you need to put them in a position to succeed.
I think Waiters, Irving and Thompson can all fit together, but it requires certain skills from the other two guys on the court. Namely, you want them to be able to shoot. That's why Spencer Hawes appears to be working out so well in Cleveland. You already see good results from Thompson and Irving, and I really want Waiters back out there to see what we have.
What can Dion be? I still have no clue. I spend a lot of time wanting him to play like Delonte West. If this feels like an insult to Waiters, it shouldn't. The numbers with and without Thompson are interesting to me because I had kind of been getting to the point where I wanted Waiters to phase out the driving. He isn't drawing enough fouls, and when he gets too deep in penetration it's often hard for him to get back on defense. But with more spacing, taking into account his still young age, it would probably be wise for me to give him more time.
Thanks a lot Alex, and hopefully we can do this again after the season, hopefully with a 15 game sample of Waiters and Hawes playing together to over analyze.